As am I, unfortunately your memory is clouded.

The “it” of which I have personal memories is the “global ice age coming” stories and they are quite unclouded. The Hansen connection I only have via reports in (ostensibly reputable papers like) Investors Business Daily. This link quotes the IBD story

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/09/global_warmer_h.html

IBD comments:

It’s clear that Hansen is as much a political animal as he is a scientist. Did he switch from one approaching cataclysm to another because he thought it would be easier to sell to the public? Was it a career advancement move or an honest change of heart on science, based on empirical evidence?

From

http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/story/daveinboca/2007/09/23/old_washington_post_article_finds_nasa_climatologist_hansen_plumping_for_global_cooling

we have:

Sustained emissions over five to 10 years, Rasool claimed, “could be sufficient to trigger an ice age.”

Aiding Rasool’s research, the Post reported, was a “computer program developed by Dr. James Hansen,” who was, according to his resume, a Columbia University research associate at the time.

The IBD original is at:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=275267681833290

And I did find a CA article in which Hansen claims that he only had a little part in writing some subroutines.

I don’t see where there is much conflict between these stories. “On a team” vs only wrote code…

Unfortunately, I’m old enough to have very clear personal memories of it. Guess who was doing the fear mongering? Yup, the same Hansen…

As am I, unfortunately your memory is clouded. Hansen did no fear mongering on that topic, he was working on a model of the Venusian atmosphere and provided a colleague, Rasool, with a light scattering subroutine! End of story.

I guess they’re really checkin’ their naughts and guzintas this month.

Unfortunately, I’m old enough to have very clear personal memories of it. Guess who was doing the fear mongering? Yup, the same Hansen…

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/19/nasa-scientists-predicted-new-ice-age-1971

Brings back memories of the mess when a careless operator drops a tray of cards in the middle of a 50,000 card job stream input. And how my handwriting was permanently ruined by years of printing my code onto punch card input forms. Thankfully two finger typing on keyboards replaced all that in 1975 – for me anyway at JCU NQ – and of course on a DEC-10 (who else but Unis used them anyway :-)).

> Ric Werme (05:53:44) :

> But yes, some experience of PDP-10 in the lineup. By date75 perhaps you are talking about DEC’s own year 2000 bug of 18-May-1997

No, the monitor (OS) had a 12 bit field for the date that overflowed in 1975.
The fix was to add three more bits to it.

> Six years with the Aussie Bureau of Meteorology’s “supercomputers” (of the time – IBM 360/65s)

Ah – you probably aren’t the Doug Jones (at the Univ. of Iowa) I expected.
His http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/cards/ will bring back memories. They
may not be good memories….

Ric, 41 years in the game makes me think minimising my appearance in computer databases is possibly worthwhile, so Google probably won’t find me :-)

But yes, some experience of PDP-10 in the lineup. By date75 perhaps you are talking about DEC’s own year 2000 bug of 18-May-1997 (and the 9999 days involved) ?? I think some of my own PC commercial software has its own independently developed 2030′s bug but I doubt I will need (or be here) to worry about it.

Six years with the Aussie Bureau of Meteorology’s “supercomputers” (of the time – IBM 360/65s) together with many, many years of sailing have taught me a bit about the weather. Hence the gravitation to Anthony’s site. Been lurking here for some time and always appreciate your comments.

Have fun.

When you say the “lower troposphere global temperature anomaly”, to what are you referring? Specifically, to what altitude does the lower troposhere go?

It’s about 3,300 feet (1 km) See http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps
and slide your mouse over the scale on the left.

The reason why I ask is that I was at 40,000′ (FL 400) last night over the eastern US and the temperature outside was -65. While I haven’t kept any records, I’d say that the temperature usually runs between -45 and -55 in the 35,000-45,000 altitude range. This year I’ve been seeing temps in the -60s frequently.

Does this information add anything useful to your discussion?

Probably not – some people were predicting the highly amplified jet stream we have now as being in place for a lot of the winter. The Jet stream dives south through the plains and come north just off the coast. In the trough in between, Arctic can come down and that’s what you’re flying through.

Pretty cold down here on the ground, too!

When you say the “lower troposphere global temperature anomoly”, to what are you referring? Specifically, to what altitude does the lower troposhere go?

The reason why I ask is that I was at 40,000′ (FL 400) last night over the eastern US and the temperature outside was -65. While I haven’t kept any records, I’d say that the temperature usually runs between -45 and -55 in the 35,000-45,000 altitude range. This year I’ve been seeing temps in the -60s frequently.

Does this information add anything useful to your discussion?

Thanks
Tim

“Is it snowing here at WUWT or did I pick up a virus?”

Not a virus but yet another example of man made climate chaos. ;-/

I wasn’t alive then, but if you look back in the seventies, it was Global cooling. Does anyone remember that? No, probably not because that’s not something people, especially the media, like to talk about.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/08/obama.gore/index.html

“”The Gore trip is for more than just a chat,” a close friend of Gore told CNN’s John King. “He wouldn’t burn that much carbon flying to Chicago just to talk.” ”

Amazing that these fools can make statements like that and people actually let them go unchallenged. With all the reports of Gore’s carbon footprint, you’d think that even CNN would raise an eyebrow at that.

JimB

But I like your site…It gets over my head often…you guys start using words that I’d swear you’re making up..LOL

Anyway…I don’t think there’s a doubt we’re having an effect on the planet…and there’s also no doubt in my mind that some day, one of our generations will have to bear the brunt of our actions today..

I suppose there are extremists on both sides, but they balance each other out…for every Al Gore, there’s a Rush Limbaugh…whos’ answer is…”the Earth will work it out!” Yeah…it sure will, and we won’t be around to see it happen! LOL

Anyway…keep up the good work…Here in Louisville, it’s windy..very…getting ready to storm, then turn cold…Here in the MW it’s amazing how quickly temps can drop…Of course all of you know what that happens…but having lived in SoCal where temps never do this kind of thing…it’s kinda amazing to experience…be in shorts one day and parka the next…

I bet the Indians in these parts really thought they pissed off some God when this kinda thing happened…

Peace