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		<title>By: Hank McCard</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/11/01/atlantic-hurricane-season-2008-withers-on-the-vine/#comment-55315</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank McCard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: My last message

&quot;In the Above-normal case, ACE median ~ 1.15*ACE Medain, whereas, in the Below-normal case, 0.65*ACE ~ 0.74*ACE Median.&quot;

should read:

&quot;In the Above-normal case, ACE Mean ~ 1.15*ACE Median, whereas, in the Below-normal case, 0.65*ACE Mean ~ 0.74*ACE Median.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: My last message</p>
<p>&#8220;In the Above-normal case, ACE median ~ 1.15*ACE Medain, whereas, in the Below-normal case, 0.65*ACE ~ 0.74*ACE Median.&#8221;</p>
<p>should read:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the Above-normal case, ACE Mean ~ 1.15*ACE Median, whereas, in the Below-normal case, 0.65*ACE Mean ~ 0.74*ACE Median.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry about that &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hank McCard</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/11/01/atlantic-hurricane-season-2008-withers-on-the-vine/#comment-55312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank McCard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Wikipedia, NOAA defines normaility in terms of ACE for tropical storms and hurricanes in the Atlantic basin as follow:

&quot;Measured over the period 1951–2005 for the Atlantic basin:

Median annual index: 89.5 
Mean annual index: 102.3 

A season&#039;s ACE is used to categorize the hurricane season by its activity. NOAA categorisation system[3] divides them into:

Above-normal season: An ACE value above 103 (115% of the current median), provided at least two of the following three parameters exceed the long-term average: number of tropical storms (10), hurricanes (6), and major hurricanes (2). 
Near-normal season: neither above-normal nor below normal 
Below-normal season: An ACE value below 66 (74% of the current median):

In the Above-normal case, ACE median ~ 1.15*ACE Medain, whereas, in the Below-normal case, 0.65*ACE ~ 0.74*ACE Median. This stikes me as rather odd. I would have thought the boundaries would have been more symmetrical. Can anyone help me, or direct be to a reference source that might help me, understand the reasoning for defining the categories this way?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Wikipedia, NOAA defines normaility in terms of ACE for tropical storms and hurricanes in the Atlantic basin as follow:</p>
<p>&#8220;Measured over the period 1951–2005 for the Atlantic basin:</p>
<p>Median annual index: 89.5<br />
Mean annual index: 102.3 </p>
<p>A season&#8217;s ACE is used to categorize the hurricane season by its activity. NOAA categorisation system[3] divides them into:</p>
<p>Above-normal season: An ACE value above 103 (115% of the current median), provided at least two of the following three parameters exceed the long-term average: number of tropical storms (10), hurricanes (6), and major hurricanes (2).<br />
Near-normal season: neither above-normal nor below normal<br />
Below-normal season: An ACE value below 66 (74% of the current median):</p>
<p>In the Above-normal case, ACE median ~ 1.15*ACE Medain, whereas, in the Below-normal case, 0.65*ACE ~ 0.74*ACE Median. This stikes me as rather odd. I would have thought the boundaries would have been more symmetrical. Can anyone help me, or direct be to a reference source that might help me, understand the reasoning for defining the categories this way?</p>
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		<title>By: Ric Werme</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ric Werme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty cool - a hurricane in the Carribean and a bilzzard in the Dakotas.  I have no idea when that happened last.  (BTW, the blizzard may not meet a rigorous characteristic, the temperature is above 20F.  However, the storm is turning 10&quot; of snowfall into 10&#039; of drifts, and ready drifting is one reason for the cold temperature requirement.

In the northeast, the NWS dropped the temperature requirement since coastal storms usually bring warm temps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty cool &#8211; a hurricane in the Carribean and a bilzzard in the Dakotas.  I have no idea when that happened last.  (BTW, the blizzard may not meet a rigorous characteristic, the temperature is above 20F.  However, the storm is turning 10&#8243; of snowfall into 10&#8242; of drifts, and ready drifting is one reason for the cold temperature requirement.</p>
<p>In the northeast, the NWS dropped the temperature requirement since coastal storms usually bring warm temps.</p>
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		<title>By: PSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PSpencer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It might be my imagination, but I&#039;ve noticed pictures of the Earth from the Apollo missions in the late 60&#039;s show a very cloudy Earth.  Modern pictures from space show a very clear earth.

Is there a difference in photo technology and filtering, or is there really that much less cloud cover?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be my imagination, but I&#8217;ve noticed pictures of the Earth from the Apollo missions in the late 60&#8242;s show a very cloudy Earth.  Modern pictures from space show a very clear earth.</p>
<p>Is there a difference in photo technology and filtering, or is there really that much less cloud cover?</p>
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		<title>By: David Segesta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Segesta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just for info, it seems that hurricane activity  in the East Pacific has been normal or below normal for the last 10 years.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Hist_east_pac_ace_trend_1971-2007.gif]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for info, it seems that hurricane activity  in the East Pacific has been normal or below normal for the last 10 years.<br />
<a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Hist_east_pac_ace_trend_1971-2007.gif" rel="nofollow">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Hist_east_pac_ace_trend_1971-2007.gif</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove&#160;&#8212;&#160;Barracuda Patrol!</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/11/01/atlantic-hurricane-season-2008-withers-on-the-vine/#comment-54052</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove&#160;&#8212;&#160;Barracuda Patrol!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] whatever happened to that 2008 hurricane season? Watts Up With That? [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] whatever happened to that 2008 hurricane season? Watts Up With That? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/11/01/atlantic-hurricane-season-2008-withers-on-the-vine/#comment-54009</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Ike, a Cat2, had days to travel across the Gulf allowing a massive dome of water to build under it and then hit head on into the Galveston area destroying everything.

Another important factor is the depth and configuration of the continental shelf just off a given target area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Ike, a Cat2, had days to travel across the Gulf allowing a massive dome of water to build under it and then hit head on into the Galveston area destroying everything.</p>
<p>Another important factor is the depth and configuration of the continental shelf just off a given target area.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/11/01/atlantic-hurricane-season-2008-withers-on-the-vine/#comment-54006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;...so many storms affecting so many countries in the caribbean , central america and the gulf region in one single year .&#039;

How about one storm that, in a week or so, brought hurricane conditions to every one of the Greater Antilles, and then to every state on the Atlantic coast of the U.S. from Florida (both coasts) to Maine?

That was Hurricane Donna in 1960--a year, by the way, with an anemic ACE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230;so many storms affecting so many countries in the caribbean , central america and the gulf region in one single year .&#8217;</p>
<p>How about one storm that, in a week or so, brought hurricane conditions to every one of the Greater Antilles, and then to every state on the Atlantic coast of the U.S. from Florida (both coasts) to Maine?</p>
<p>That was Hurricane Donna in 1960&#8211;a year, by the way, with an anemic ACE.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It also seems, on the shorter term, that ENSO phenomena are reflected in the graphs: strong El Ninos correlate with decreased tropical cyclone activity in the Atlantic and La Ninas with increased activity.

The opposite is true for the Southwest Pac, which leads me to wonder whether there are ACE figures available for the current typhoon season. The global ACE and its adventures over the past century would also be quite relevant in trying to grasp such cyclic patterns as can be discerned (Leif Svalgaard has wised me up on cyclomania as applied to systems with a significant chaotic input).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also seems, on the shorter term, that ENSO phenomena are reflected in the graphs: strong El Ninos correlate with decreased tropical cyclone activity in the Atlantic and La Ninas with increased activity.</p>
<p>The opposite is true for the Southwest Pac, which leads me to wonder whether there are ACE figures available for the current typhoon season. The global ACE and its adventures over the past century would also be quite relevant in trying to grasp such cyclic patterns as can be discerned (Leif Svalgaard has wised me up on cyclomania as applied to systems with a significant chaotic input).</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing to consider in re this last tropical season, is that many of the storms formed very close to land. One effect of this, e.g. with Faye, was that, even though upper level patterns were quite favorable for intensification, interaction with land, especially with mountainous Hispanola and western Cuba, inhibited development, while enhancing rainfall-- sections of Florida got a half-year&#039;s worth of rain in three days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to consider in re this last tropical season, is that many of the storms formed very close to land. One effect of this, e.g. with Faye, was that, even though upper level patterns were quite favorable for intensification, interaction with land, especially with mountainous Hispanola and western Cuba, inhibited development, while enhancing rainfall&#8211; sections of Florida got a half-year&#8217;s worth of rain in three days.</p>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was a fairly typical hurricane season, with typical storms.
It will be the AGW promoters who seek to extract evidence supporting their faith from this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a fairly typical hurricane season, with typical storms.<br />
It will be the AGW promoters who seek to extract evidence supporting their faith from this.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;...no damage to property and deaths.&#039;

Isn&#039;t Texas still in the Union? How many missing and presumed dead on Galveston Island?

It doesn&#039;t take a Cat 5 or even a major hurricane to cause grief]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230;no damage to property and deaths.&#8217;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Texas still in the Union? How many missing and presumed dead on Galveston Island?</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take a Cat 5 or even a major hurricane to cause grief</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, Anthony, is that poster child &#039;cane Floyd from 1999?

Floyd didn&#039;t look so purdy by the time it huffed and puffed its way up here to 40 N, but it dumped 15 inches of rain in as many hours on central New Jersey, and the ensuing Floydian flood (not Floydian slip) knocked out a major water filtration plant for two weeks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Anthony, is that poster child &#8216;cane Floyd from 1999?</p>
<p>Floyd didn&#8217;t look so purdy by the time it huffed and puffed its way up here to 40 N, but it dumped 15 inches of rain in as many hours on central New Jersey, and the ensuing Floydian flood (not Floydian slip) knocked out a major water filtration plant for two weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose A Torruellas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jose A Torruellas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though it was an active hurricane season , I have to say  that as far I&#039;m concerned , I have never seen so many storms affecting so many countries in the caribbean , central america and the gulf region  in one single year .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though it was an active hurricane season , I have to say  that as far I&#8217;m concerned , I have never seen so many storms affecting so many countries in the caribbean , central america and the gulf region  in one single year .</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The graphs would seem to correlate nicely with regime changes in the AMO, and one is reminded that the great Bill Gray was already warning during the blase &#039;70&#039;s that an uptick in Atlantic tropical cyclone activity was a few decades down the road.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The graphs would seem to correlate nicely with regime changes in the AMO, and one is reminded that the great Bill Gray was already warning during the blase &#8217;70&#8242;s that an uptick in Atlantic tropical cyclone activity was a few decades down the road.</p>
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