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		<title>By: DaveE</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/31/creepy-climate-change-for-halloween/#comment-53794</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce Cobb (08:12:27) :

Actually I think you&#039;ve only reinforced what was being said.
The video IS a mockery of JFK!

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<p>Actually I think you&#8217;ve only reinforced what was being said.<br />
The video IS a mockery of JFK!</p>
<p>DaveE</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/31/creepy-climate-change-for-halloween/#comment-53790</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stalin&#039;s Photoshop. Step right up and change the past! Step right up!</description>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/31/creepy-climate-change-for-halloween/#comment-53789</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>‘I’m sure we’ll see other dead people talking about climate change soon.’

As we will see dead people voting soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘I’m sure we’ll see other dead people talking about climate change soon.’</p>
<p>As we will see dead people voting soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/31/creepy-climate-change-for-halloween/#comment-53788</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jfk was a mediocre President whose claim to fame is an operatic death.</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce Cobb</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/31/creepy-climate-change-for-halloween/#comment-53719</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPT. Charles: &lt;i&gt; This mockery is singular proof that there is nothing more sacred in either Heaven or Earth save the cause Greenpeace strives for.&lt;/i&gt;
You have it completely backwards:  the Greenpeace video is itself a total mockery of JFK&#039;s ideals.  The only &quot;cause&quot; Greenpeace strives for is lining their own pockets by selling their pseudoscientific nonsense.  Their use of JFK for this is an outrage, which you conveniently fail to see.

&lt;i&gt;For all of JFK’s faults, which I will leave unlisted, he was a man who stood up for freedom. He knew tyranny when he saw it, and strove against it as best he could. If there is a more complete way to mock everything he stood for, let one of you commenters here enlighten me.&lt;/i&gt;
By all means.  Allow me, and I&#039;m sure there will be others.  I believe you are right in that he knew tyranny when he saw it.  It is difficult to say, but I believe he would have seen through the AGW lie.  Nothing threatens freedom more, or invites tyranny more than a lie as huge as AGW is.

&lt;i&gt;The only good of it all is that my enemy has unveiled themselves for all to see.&lt;/i&gt;
So, your &quot;enemy&quot; is the truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPT. Charles: <i> This mockery is singular proof that there is nothing more sacred in either Heaven or Earth save the cause Greenpeace strives for.</i><br />
You have it completely backwards:  the Greenpeace video is itself a total mockery of JFK&#8217;s ideals.  The only &#8220;cause&#8221; Greenpeace strives for is lining their own pockets by selling their pseudoscientific nonsense.  Their use of JFK for this is an outrage, which you conveniently fail to see.</p>
<p><i>For all of JFK’s faults, which I will leave unlisted, he was a man who stood up for freedom. He knew tyranny when he saw it, and strove against it as best he could. If there is a more complete way to mock everything he stood for, let one of you commenters here enlighten me.</i><br />
By all means.  Allow me, and I&#8217;m sure there will be others.  I believe you are right in that he knew tyranny when he saw it.  It is difficult to say, but I believe he would have seen through the AGW lie.  Nothing threatens freedom more, or invites tyranny more than a lie as huge as AGW is.</p>
<p><i>The only good of it all is that my enemy has unveiled themselves for all to see.</i><br />
So, your &#8220;enemy&#8221; is the truth?</p>
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		<title>By: Global Warming &#187; Creepy Climate Change for Halloween « Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/31/creepy-climate-change-for-halloween/#comment-53677</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Warming &#187; Creepy Climate Change for Halloween « Watts Up With That?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: old construction worker</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/31/creepy-climate-change-for-halloween/#comment-53603</link>
		<dc:creator>old construction worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I’m sure we’ll see other dead people talking about climate change soon.&#039;
Are these the same dead people from Chicago that voted in our last natioal election?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I’m sure we’ll see other dead people talking about climate change soon.&#8217;<br />
Are these the same dead people from Chicago that voted in our last natioal election?</p>
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		<title>By: CPT. Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPT. Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This mockery is singular proof that there is nothing more sacred in either Heaven or Earth save the cause Greenpeace strives for.

For all of JFK&#039;s faults, which I will leave unlisted, he was a man who stood up for freedom.  He knew tyranny when he saw it, and strove against it as best he could.  If there is a more complete way to mock everything he stood for, let one of you commenters here enlighten me.

The honored dead should sleep undisturbed, not be dragged from their graves to serve as players in some vile hi-tech Punch and Judy show.  Enough is enough.

The only good of it all is that my enemy has unveiled themselves for all to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This mockery is singular proof that there is nothing more sacred in either Heaven or Earth save the cause Greenpeace strives for.</p>
<p>For all of JFK&#8217;s faults, which I will leave unlisted, he was a man who stood up for freedom.  He knew tyranny when he saw it, and strove against it as best he could.  If there is a more complete way to mock everything he stood for, let one of you commenters here enlighten me.</p>
<p>The honored dead should sleep undisturbed, not be dragged from their graves to serve as players in some vile hi-tech Punch and Judy show.  Enough is enough.</p>
<p>The only good of it all is that my enemy has unveiled themselves for all to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Dubrasich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Dubrasich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This zombie ad brings up a critical question: who else is a zombie? Can you really tell who is alive and who is a soul-less corpse animated for propaganda purposes?

Known zombies: JFK, Elvis, Saddam Hussein

Probable zombies: Al Gore, Osama bin Laden, fill in the blank _____

Then there are the vampires, like Bela Lugosi, Nosferatu, Obacula, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This zombie ad brings up a critical question: who else is a zombie? Can you really tell who is alive and who is a soul-less corpse animated for propaganda purposes?</p>
<p>Known zombies: JFK, Elvis, Saddam Hussein</p>
<p>Probable zombies: Al Gore, Osama bin Laden, fill in the blank _____</p>
<p>Then there are the vampires, like Bela Lugosi, Nosferatu, Obacula, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric Werme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric Werme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dee Norris (14:11:54) :

&lt;blockquote&gt;
    Speaking of back from the dead, I am a victim of global cooling! The nor’easter that dumped 18&quot; of snow on me, also knocked down several trees across my power-lines. I finally got back power this afternoon!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Welcome home!  Technically, that storm was no nor&#039;easter.  Those form along the coast from NJ south, then come up and strengthen from cold air to the north &amp; west and moisture from the south.

Your storm was a strange streched out affair with feed of cold air from due north that reached down to Florida, I&#039;m not quite sure where the moisture came from, it didn&#039;t start out with lake effect moisture.

New Hampshire got very little snow and a south wind that eventually brought cold air from Atlanta.  We did get some rain, but it had amore of a tropical feel to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dee Norris (14:11:54) :</p>
<blockquote><p>
    Speaking of back from the dead, I am a victim of global cooling! The nor’easter that dumped 18&#8243; of snow on me, also knocked down several trees across my power-lines. I finally got back power this afternoon!
</p></blockquote>
<p>Welcome home!  Technically, that storm was no nor&#8217;easter.  Those form along the coast from NJ south, then come up and strengthen from cold air to the north &amp; west and moisture from the south.</p>
<p>Your storm was a strange streched out affair with feed of cold air from due north that reached down to Florida, I&#8217;m not quite sure where the moisture came from, it didn&#8217;t start out with lake effect moisture.</p>
<p>New Hampshire got very little snow and a south wind that eventually brought cold air from Atlanta.  We did get some rain, but it had amore of a tropical feel to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee Norris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of back from the dead, I am a victim of global cooling!  The nor&#039;easter that dumped 18&quot; of snow on me, also knocked down several trees across my power-lines.  I finally got back power this afternoon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of back from the dead, I am a victim of global cooling!  The nor&#8217;easter that dumped 18&#8243; of snow on me, also knocked down several trees across my power-lines.  I finally got back power this afternoon!</p>
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		<title>By: David Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As progandists go, Green Peas has always been pretty self-destructive.  More power to them in there considerable effort to find a nadir of the crass, the silly, the creepy and the offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As progandists go, Green Peas has always been pretty self-destructive.  More power to them in there considerable effort to find a nadir of the crass, the silly, the creepy and the offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael of Brisbane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael of Brisbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite as bad as the Kennedy ad but Greenpeace is using  Wiggles lookalikes in Australia to scare our Kids. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqufaK3Kwq0
I agree with Kean Whelband (12:42:45) Joseph Gobbels would have been very proud of Greenpeaces&#039; efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite as bad as the Kennedy ad but Greenpeace is using  Wiggles lookalikes in Australia to scare our Kids.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqufaK3Kwq0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqufaK3Kwq0</a><br />
I agree with Kean Whelband (12:42:45) Joseph Gobbels would have been very proud of Greenpeaces&#8217; efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldjim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oldjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve Berry
It&#039;s actually fairly common for a month to drop that low - values -0.4 or less are shown in blue (I hope I didn&#039;t miss any) http://www.holtlane.plus.com/images/cet.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve Berry<br />
It&#8217;s actually fairly common for a month to drop that low &#8211; values -0.4 or less are shown in blue (I hope I didn&#8217;t miss any) <a href="http://www.holtlane.plus.com/images/cet.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.holtlane.plus.com/images/cet.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The ad promotes the eradication of coal-fired plants, using more expensive unproven sources of energy, blames industrialized nations for the plight of poor nations, and calls for a radical overhaul of the European auto industry.&quot;

Shoot.

It would seem to be a lot less work to just quote Barack Obama on the same issues, except he just wants to overhaul the American auto industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The ad promotes the eradication of coal-fired plants, using more expensive unproven sources of energy, blames industrialized nations for the plight of poor nations, and calls for a radical overhaul of the European auto industry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shoot.</p>
<p>It would seem to be a lot less work to just quote Barack Obama on the same issues, except he just wants to overhaul the American auto industry.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianMcL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianMcL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about as genuine as anything that&#039;s come out of the AGW crowd for years.

The really scary part is that they&#039;re not even bothered that everyone knows they&#039;re making it up now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about as genuine as anything that&#8217;s come out of the AGW crowd for years.</p>
<p>The really scary part is that they&#8217;re not even bothered that everyone knows they&#8217;re making it up now.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Brozyna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon Brozyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were a number of commercials a few years back that featured dead actors including John Wayne. For a time these commercials were seen quite often. Now that the novelty has worn off, they appear less frequently. Having John Wayne appearing in a Coors Light commercial is one thing, easily not taken seriously; using a JFK image to spout propaganda gives the subject matter a degree of respectability that it does not deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were a number of commercials a few years back that featured dead actors including John Wayne. For a time these commercials were seen quite often. Now that the novelty has worn off, they appear less frequently. Having John Wayne appearing in a Coors Light commercial is one thing, easily not taken seriously; using a JFK image to spout propaganda gives the subject matter a degree of respectability that it does not deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: JimB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip Bratby (09:20:23) : 

&quot;This sort of tasteless behaviour suggests that Greenpeace are desperate because they recognise that everything is going pear-shaped on account of the increasing AGW scepticism and the impending global cooling&quot;

Phillip, I disagree that they are &quot;desperate&quot;.  This is nothing but marketing on the part of Greenpeace.  They are marketing their agenda, much the same way Gore marketed HIS agenda with the AIT movie.
The same way the IPCC markets their ideas to garner support.  The same way some scientist market their ideas to get grant money.

If anything, this points to a failing on the part of us skeptics.

My analogy is that when we first started fighting a ground war in Vietnam, we lost miserably.  We were attempting to fight a conventional engagement against very effective guerilla warfare, and our troops didn&#039;t stand a chance.  We learned, eventually, and modified/adopted tactics that allowed us to bring supperior weaponry/technology to bear such that we won some battles.

We&#039;re trying to win this battle with logic and reasoning.  Why?  There&#039;s nothing logical or reasonable about Gore&#039;s messaging.  And the people that go ga-ga for it aren&#039;t applying logic or reason.

We need to play the game their way, with just a hint of logic and reason, enough to make some folks go &quot;Hmmmm...didn&#039;t think of that.  Why ISN&#039;T that happening?&quot;...then toss in a little &quot;And Oh by the way, they&#039;re going to waste BILLIONS of tax dollars that we can&#039;t afford to waste!&quot; on the side, and we&#039;ll start making progress.

We need someone to take out these same types of ads.  Full page in the WSJ or the NYT that deliver 5 bullets of information.  Plant the seeds.

IMHO, of course.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip Bratby (09:20:23) : </p>
<p>&#8220;This sort of tasteless behaviour suggests that Greenpeace are desperate because they recognise that everything is going pear-shaped on account of the increasing AGW scepticism and the impending global cooling&#8221;</p>
<p>Phillip, I disagree that they are &#8220;desperate&#8221;.  This is nothing but marketing on the part of Greenpeace.  They are marketing their agenda, much the same way Gore marketed HIS agenda with the AIT movie.<br />
The same way the IPCC markets their ideas to garner support.  The same way some scientist market their ideas to get grant money.</p>
<p>If anything, this points to a failing on the part of us skeptics.</p>
<p>My analogy is that when we first started fighting a ground war in Vietnam, we lost miserably.  We were attempting to fight a conventional engagement against very effective guerilla warfare, and our troops didn&#8217;t stand a chance.  We learned, eventually, and modified/adopted tactics that allowed us to bring supperior weaponry/technology to bear such that we won some battles.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re trying to win this battle with logic and reasoning.  Why?  There&#8217;s nothing logical or reasonable about Gore&#8217;s messaging.  And the people that go ga-ga for it aren&#8217;t applying logic or reason.</p>
<p>We need to play the game their way, with just a hint of logic and reason, enough to make some folks go &#8220;Hmmmm&#8230;didn&#8217;t think of that.  Why ISN&#8217;T that happening?&#8221;&#8230;then toss in a little &#8220;And Oh by the way, they&#8217;re going to waste BILLIONS of tax dollars that we can&#8217;t afford to waste!&#8221; on the side, and we&#8217;ll start making progress.</p>
<p>We need someone to take out these same types of ads.  Full page in the WSJ or the NYT that deliver 5 bullets of information.  Plant the seeds.</p>
<p>IMHO, of course.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Tipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Tipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you believe the man-made global warming theory is false then why not sign  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=37&amp;Itemid=54&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Manhattan Declaration&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you believe the man-made global warming theory is false then why not sign  <a href="http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=37&amp;Itemid=54" rel="nofollow">The Manhattan Declaration</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Celebrity Paycut - Encouraging celebrities all over the world to save us from global warming by taking a paycut.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celebrity Paycut - Encouraging celebrities all over the world to save us from global warming by taking a paycut.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Greenpeace gone too far with this video mock up, using the image of the late John F. Kennedy to warn of the global warming apocalypse. Are we to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Greenpeace gone too far with this video mock up, using the image of the late John F. Kennedy to warn of the global warming apocalypse. Are we to [...]</p>
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