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	<title>Comments on: Snow blankets London for Global Warming debate &#8211; first October Snow in over 70 years</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck Cardiff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Cardiff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stupid limeys.  This is what comes from too much warm beer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid limeys.  This is what comes from too much warm beer.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Rodaughan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graeme Rodaughan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flanagan (01:19:56) : 
Peter Hearnden (01:22:24) : 
andyw35 (23:38:03) : 

Enjoying the &quot;mild winter&quot; in the UK this year? That AGW sure is biting hard with CO2 overwhelming all the natural variation to cause dangerous catastrophic WARMING!!!

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/12/this-aint-just-weather.html

And regarding politicians understanding of AGW.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/20/house_of_lords_climate/

You have politicians admitting they know nothing more than what their un-elected advisers tell them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flanagan (01:19:56) :<br />
Peter Hearnden (01:22:24) :<br />
andyw35 (23:38:03) : </p>
<p>Enjoying the &#8220;mild winter&#8221; in the UK this year? That AGW sure is biting hard with CO2 overwhelming all the natural variation to cause dangerous catastrophic WARMING!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/12/this-aint-just-weather.html" rel="nofollow">http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/12/this-aint-just-weather.html</a></p>
<p>And regarding politicians understanding of AGW.<br />
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/20/house_of_lords_climate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/20/house_of_lords_climate/</a></p>
<p>You have politicians admitting they know nothing more than what their un-elected advisers tell them.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rhys (05:37:56)  How about pitch and torched feathers for this Frankenstein Fabrication?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhys (05:37:56)  How about pitch and torched feathers for this Frankenstein Fabrication?<br />
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		<title>By: Rhys Jaggar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhys Jaggar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real question for us Brits is this:

When did that doyen of UK socialists, the Rt Hon Gordon Brown, PhD MP, First Lord of the Treasury (aka Prime Minister) decide to resort to Dubya Congressional tactics in slipping in huge clauses of incredible implications at the last minute to obviate proper scrutiny?

What does this say about this man and those he recommended to be part of Her Majesty&#039;s Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and what are people going to do about it?

You may discern that I think that slightly more than writing to the newspapers is the proper response.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question for us Brits is this:</p>
<p>When did that doyen of UK socialists, the Rt Hon Gordon Brown, PhD MP, First Lord of the Treasury (aka Prime Minister) decide to resort to Dubya Congressional tactics in slipping in huge clauses of incredible implications at the last minute to obviate proper scrutiny?</p>
<p>What does this say about this man and those he recommended to be part of Her Majesty&#8217;s Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and what are people going to do about it?</p>
<p>You may discern that I think that slightly more than writing to the newspapers is the proper response&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan County Sheriff&#8217;s Office &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Driving on Ice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morgan County Sheriff&#8217;s Office &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Driving on Ice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] that all seem to want to find their way indoors.  Maybe there is global warming?  Although the report of snow blanketing the British House of Commons in London on October 22nd for the first time since 1922 makes me wonder.  The British House of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that all seem to want to find their way indoors.  Maybe there is global warming?  Although the report of snow blanketing the British House of Commons in London on October 22nd for the first time since 1922 makes me wonder.  The British House of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kim (11:24:39)  Update:  They are still at it; clashing spreadsheets, a blind and dumb referee, what a contest.

Mary is obviously used to thick wooly blankets.  Some of us have experience of thin, moth-eaten ones.

For Hallow&#039;s Eve, an ancient plaint:

The lane is very dirty.
My shoes are very thin.
I&#039;ve got a little pocket 
To put a penny in.

If you haven&#039;t got a penny,
A half-penny will do.
If you haven&#039;t got a half-penny,
May God Bless You.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kim (11:24:39)  Update:  They are still at it; clashing spreadsheets, a blind and dumb referee, what a contest.</p>
<p>Mary is obviously used to thick wooly blankets.  Some of us have experience of thin, moth-eaten ones.</p>
<p>For Hallow&#8217;s Eve, an ancient plaint:</p>
<p>The lane is very dirty.<br />
My shoes are very thin.<br />
I&#8217;ve got a little pocket<br />
To put a penny in.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t got a penny,<br />
A half-penny will do.<br />
If you haven&#8217;t got a half-penny,<br />
May God Bless You.<br />
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		<title>By: Markus Schulz - Global DJ Broadcast (30-10-2008) &#124; Livesets .nu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Markus Schulz - Global DJ Broadcast (30-10-2008) &#124; Livesets .nu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flanagan (08:48:17)  Then again, see Steve Hempell&#039;s comment on 10/31 at 10:12:35 on the Hard Lessons thread.  Integrated cycle length and strength do seem to correlate with historical temperatures, a contention that Leif disagrees with.  There are warring integrations, update at ten.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flanagan (08:48:17)  Then again, see Steve Hempell&#8217;s comment on 10/31 at 10:12:35 on the Hard Lessons thread.  Integrated cycle length and strength do seem to correlate with historical temperatures, a contention that Leif disagrees with.  There are warring integrations, update at ten.<br />
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems like both extra snow and extra heat are being added in locations where no one lives to check it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like both extra snow and extra heat are being added in locations where no one lives to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another problem with CT from CA:

379 
tty: 
October 31st, 2008 at 11:50 am 
Actually it&#039;s wrong both ways. If you compare the two images in the link above and look at the russian coast from the White Sea east to Taimyr you will notice that in the older map the ice comes well inland. The Kanin Peninsula and Vaygach are more-or less obliterated. On the other hand the younger map, while less distorted is definitely a bit &quot;snowed-over&quot;, for example the whole Taz estuary which is about 250 km long and 40 km wide has disappeared completely.

Also there is another error I&#039;ve mentioned before. From the 80&#039;s and up to about 2003 the maps definitely shows ice in areas where there isn&#039;t any. This is easily seen as &quot;ice&quot; in the Baltic in summer, where there never is any. Probably the ice in the Arctic is also exaggerated. Look at this for example:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=07&amp;fd=01&amp;fy=1990&amp;sm=07&amp;sd=01&amp;sy=2006

There is positively never ever any ice in the Baltic in July!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another problem with CT from CA:</p>
<p>379<br />
tty:<br />
October 31st, 2008 at 11:50 am<br />
Actually it&#8217;s wrong both ways. If you compare the two images in the link above and look at the russian coast from the White Sea east to Taimyr you will notice that in the older map the ice comes well inland. The Kanin Peninsula and Vaygach are more-or less obliterated. On the other hand the younger map, while less distorted is definitely a bit &#8220;snowed-over&#8221;, for example the whole Taz estuary which is about 250 km long and 40 km wide has disappeared completely.</p>
<p>Also there is another error I&#8217;ve mentioned before. From the 80&#8242;s and up to about 2003 the maps definitely shows ice in areas where there isn&#8217;t any. This is easily seen as &#8220;ice&#8221; in the Baltic in summer, where there never is any. Probably the ice in the Arctic is also exaggerated. Look at this for example:</p>
<p><a href="http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=07&#038;fd=01&#038;fy=1990&#038;sm=07&#038;sd=01&#038;sy=2006" rel="nofollow">http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=07&#038;fd=01&#038;fy=1990&#038;sm=07&#038;sd=01&#038;sy=2006</a></p>
<p>There is positively never ever any ice in the Baltic in July!</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smokey (09:08:33)  The graphs are different, and the scale is different, but the 300mb and 700mb on each show the same thing, so I don&#039;t believe Flanagan manipulated the graph.  However, both graphs refute his point; relative humidity has dropped.
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flanagan (08:48:17)  You&#039;d have to convince Leif Svalgaard that temperatures are linked to the sun before you convince me.  I believe, not know, that the sun directs climate in several unknown ways, but I&#039;m convinced that there is a poor correlation between what we know of past temperature and what we know of the sun&#039;s past activity, as measured by sunspots.  Leif hasn&#039;t been flapping his fingertips completely in vain.  So why don&#039;t you be a big boy, and give it up?  Sun Cycle 24 ramping up isn&#039;t going to bring global temperature up by itself.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flanagan (08:48:17)  You&#8217;d have to convince Leif Svalgaard that temperatures are linked to the sun before you convince me.  I believe, not know, that the sun directs climate in several unknown ways, but I&#8217;m convinced that there is a poor correlation between what we know of past temperature and what we know of the sun&#8217;s past activity, as measured by sunspots.  Leif hasn&#8217;t been flapping his fingertips completely in vain.  So why don&#8217;t you be a big boy, and give it up?  Sun Cycle 24 ramping up isn&#8217;t going to bring global temperature up by itself.<br />
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		<title>By: alexjc38</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I shouldn&#039;t really be so surprised by this, but of all the hundreds of MPs who voted this week only a handful of them - for instance, Conservative back-bencher Peter Lilley - appear to have raised a fuss over the appalling cost of the whole exercise. (The opposition to this stupid Bill has come from the back benches - not one party leader appears to have given the matter much critical thought.) Given that the government has just blown 37 billion pounds sterling of our money on bailing out the banks, you&#039;d think that they&#039;d be a little less enthusiastic over tossing yet more of our prosperity down the drain, but there we are. And make no mistake, the 80% emissions cut is nothing but a pointless and self-defeating gesture. The UK emits less than 2% of the world&#039;s manmade CO2, and that percentage will be ever smaller, as China&#039;s and India&#039;s share grows. Even if AGW was a real issue, Britain going completely &quot;carbon neutral&quot; would be a drop in the ocean.

And there&#039;s next to nothing about it in the news. The headlines this week have been mostly about two BBC presenters in trouble over making a prank phone call, a matter upon which political party leaders have made it their business to comment  (as opposed to the presumably trivial prospect of long-term economic hardship resulting from the Climate Change Bill.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shouldn&#8217;t really be so surprised by this, but of all the hundreds of MPs who voted this week only a handful of them &#8211; for instance, Conservative back-bencher Peter Lilley &#8211; appear to have raised a fuss over the appalling cost of the whole exercise. (The opposition to this stupid Bill has come from the back benches &#8211; not one party leader appears to have given the matter much critical thought.) Given that the government has just blown 37 billion pounds sterling of our money on bailing out the banks, you&#8217;d think that they&#8217;d be a little less enthusiastic over tossing yet more of our prosperity down the drain, but there we are. And make no mistake, the 80% emissions cut is nothing but a pointless and self-defeating gesture. The UK emits less than 2% of the world&#8217;s manmade CO2, and that percentage will be ever smaller, as China&#8217;s and India&#8217;s share grows. Even if AGW was a real issue, Britain going completely &#8220;carbon neutral&#8221; would be a drop in the ocean.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s next to nothing about it in the news. The headlines this week have been mostly about two BBC presenters in trouble over making a prank phone call, a matter upon which political party leaders have made it their business to comment  (as opposed to the presumably trivial prospect of long-term economic hardship resulting from the Climate Change Bill.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flanagan,
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flanagan,<br />
Either you are a naughty boy or you have been had.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinky Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pinky Floyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Global cooling will be much, much worse than global warming would have ever been...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global cooling will be much, much worse than global warming would have ever been&#8230;</p>
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