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		<title>By: Ross Hawkin</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/17/can-oyster-art-curb-global-warming/#comment-53547</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ross Hawkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually have met Mara Haseltine in person while working in Singapore.  Mara Haseltine was the winner for the installation located in the “Epi-Center” of Singapore’s Biotech mecca “Biopolis,” which was designed by architect Zaha Hadid. The project was to create an outsized bronze sculpture for outdoors depicting the functioning of the SARS Protease Inhibitor, which was discovered by an international team of scientists working at Biopolis.  As a scientist involved in that particular project I have to say that seeing our discovery transformed into art in such an exquisite manner was one of those moments that I will cherish for the rest of my life.  A truly unique once in a lifetime experience.  

To talk down of such a talented and bright young woman is to admit your deep ignorance of her work and artistic vision. You should visit her website calamara.com and see her fantastic body of work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have met Mara Haseltine in person while working in Singapore.  Mara Haseltine was the winner for the installation located in the “Epi-Center” of Singapore’s Biotech mecca “Biopolis,” which was designed by architect Zaha Hadid. The project was to create an outsized bronze sculpture for outdoors depicting the functioning of the SARS Protease Inhibitor, which was discovered by an international team of scientists working at Biopolis.  As a scientist involved in that particular project I have to say that seeing our discovery transformed into art in such an exquisite manner was one of those moments that I will cherish for the rest of my life.  A truly unique once in a lifetime experience.  </p>
<p>To talk down of such a talented and bright young woman is to admit your deep ignorance of her work and artistic vision. You should visit her website calamara.com and see her fantastic body of work!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/17/can-oyster-art-curb-global-warming/#comment-53209</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We can only hope there are more people like this artist doing what they can to bring a solution to this problem.
What are you doing to prevent global warming?&quot;

I have placed my throne at the edge of Global Warming and ordered the tide of heat to turn away from my royal presence. It is working. See here:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/30/chill-in-the-air-part-2-us-breaks-or-ties-115-of-cold-and-sets-63-new-snowfall-records/

If more artists would order heat away we could be soon in the middle of our own wonderful little ice age.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We can only hope there are more people like this artist doing what they can to bring a solution to this problem.<br />
What are you doing to prevent global warming?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have placed my throne at the edge of Global Warming and ordered the tide of heat to turn away from my royal presence. It is working. See here:</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/30/chill-in-the-air-part-2-us-breaks-or-ties-115-of-cold-and-sets-63-new-snowfall-records/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/30/chill-in-the-air-part-2-us-breaks-or-ties-115-of-cold-and-sets-63-new-snowfall-records/</a></p>
<p>If more artists would order heat away we could be soon in the middle of our own wonderful little ice age.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Robert</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/17/can-oyster-art-curb-global-warming/#comment-53201</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039; t understand why people have to be so negative, Ms Haseltine is an artist not a scientist and at least she is doing something to motivate young minds to do something about global warming.  The work in her website is pretty amazing!  I think the class sounds really interesting.  

We can only hope there are more people like this artist doing what they can to bring a solution to this problem.

What are you doing to prevent global warming?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217; t understand why people have to be so negative, Ms Haseltine is an artist not a scientist and at least she is doing something to motivate young minds to do something about global warming.  The work in her website is pretty amazing!  I think the class sounds really interesting.  </p>
<p>We can only hope there are more people like this artist doing what they can to bring a solution to this problem.</p>
<p>What are you doing to prevent global warming?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This headline caught my eye this morning.
&quot;Climate change is driving increase in tiger attacks&quot;

Typical headline blaming everything on climate change but as always when you read the article climate change may or may not be one of the many factors.

http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn15000-climate-change-is-driving-increase-in-tiger-attacks.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&amp;nsref=news7_head_dn15000]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This headline caught my eye this morning.<br />
&#8220;Climate change is driving increase in tiger attacks&#8221;</p>
<p>Typical headline blaming everything on climate change but as always when you read the article climate change may or may not be one of the many factors.</p>
<p><a href="http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn15000-climate-change-is-driving-increase-in-tiger-attacks.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&#038;nsref=news7_head_dn15000" rel="nofollow">http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn15000-climate-change-is-driving-increase-in-tiger-attacks.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&#038;nsref=news7_head_dn15000</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/17/can-oyster-art-curb-global-warming/#comment-49637</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Brooklyn Anaerobic Digestion&#039;

If you prefer aerobic digestion, Lundy&#039;s on Sheepshead Bay comes highly recommended.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Brooklyn Anaerobic Digestion&#8217;</p>
<p>If you prefer aerobic digestion, Lundy&#8217;s on Sheepshead Bay comes highly recommended.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/17/can-oyster-art-curb-global-warming/#comment-49636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;For those not familiar, The New School is a New York City institution for people who want a degree without the, ah, “inconvenienience” of trivia like useful knowledge or intellectual rigor.&quot;

This was not always the case with the New School, which makes the situation even sadder. In the 1930&#039;s,  it was a &#039;University in Exile&#039;, a haven for many scholars from Central Europe who were forced to flee for their lives, among them Leo Strauss (briefly), Hans Jonas and Hannah Arendt, three thinkers who most assuredly meet the gold standard of &#039;intellectual rigor&#039;. Arendt continued to teach political philosophy at the New School well into the 1970&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For those not familiar, The New School is a New York City institution for people who want a degree without the, ah, “inconvenienience” of trivia like useful knowledge or intellectual rigor.&#8221;</p>
<p>This was not always the case with the New School, which makes the situation even sadder. In the 1930&#8242;s,  it was a &#8216;University in Exile&#8217;, a haven for many scholars from Central Europe who were forced to flee for their lives, among them Leo Strauss (briefly), Hans Jonas and Hannah Arendt, three thinkers who most assuredly meet the gold standard of &#8216;intellectual rigor&#8217;. Arendt continued to teach political philosophy at the New School well into the 1970&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Kum Dollison</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/17/can-oyster-art-curb-global-warming/#comment-49595</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kum Dollison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post on Brooklyn Anaerobic Digestion, Ellie; Thanks.

They&#039;re, also, doing this in Rialto, Ca.  There, and in some other Ca districts they&#039;re doing fuel cells powered by biogas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post on Brooklyn Anaerobic Digestion, Ellie; Thanks.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re, also, doing this in Rialto, Ca.  There, and in some other Ca districts they&#8217;re doing fuel cells powered by biogas.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My back of the envelope calculation forgot to factor in the 3 oxygen atoms weight of about 3 x 16).  So I should have written:

The density of the Carbon in the shells is roughly (12/88) x CaCO3 Density of 2.83 g/cm³, = .386 gm/cm3. Compare that to the density in the air from CO2 which is (roughly) (380/1,000,000) x 1.98 gm/l = 0.000752 gm/l.

So the density of Carbon in shells is (.386 gm/cm**3)/(.000752 gm/l) = 513,000 times greater than the weight density in air.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My back of the envelope calculation forgot to factor in the 3 oxygen atoms weight of about 3 x 16).  So I should have written:</p>
<p>The density of the Carbon in the shells is roughly (12/88) x CaCO3 Density of 2.83 g/cm³, = .386 gm/cm3. Compare that to the density in the air from CO2 which is (roughly) (380/1,000,000) x 1.98 gm/l = 0.000752 gm/l.</p>
<p>So the density of Carbon in shells is (.386 gm/cm**3)/(.000752 gm/l) = 513,000 times greater than the weight density in air.</p>
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		<title>By: Hanko</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hanko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alex (03:31:29) wrote;
This is abit off topic but nevertheless I find it interesting
With regards to ice levels measured since 1979.
In 2007 the Arctic set a record for the LEAST amount of ice, on the other hand the Antarctic set a record for the MOST amount of ice.
In 2008 there was MORE Arctic ice (in minimum) than in 2007 and in the Antarctic ice (in maximum) there was LESS ice than 2007.
It seems interesting how in this timeframe the two caps seem to be following the same pattern, yet in completely opposite directions. This does not fit with the AGW belief that both caps should behave in the same way.
Surely this might an indication of something other than anthro GHGs??? Natural variability in oceanic currents??
Any comments?

From:  SVENSMARK: COSMOCLIMATOLOGY

Cloud tops have a high albedo and exert their cooling effect by scattering back into the cosmos
much of the sunlight that could otherwise warm the surface. But the snows on the Antarctic ice
sheets are dazzlingly white, with a higher albedo than the cloud tops. There, extra cloud cover
warms the surface, and less cloudiness cools it. Satellite measurements show the warming effect
of clouds on Antarctica, and meteorologists at far southern latitudes confirm it by observation. Greenland too has an ice sheet, but it is smaller and not so white. And while conditions in Greenland are coupled to the general climate of the northern hemisphere, Antarctica is largely isolated by vortices in the ocean and the air.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex (03:31:29) wrote;<br />
This is abit off topic but nevertheless I find it interesting<br />
With regards to ice levels measured since 1979.<br />
In 2007 the Arctic set a record for the LEAST amount of ice, on the other hand the Antarctic set a record for the MOST amount of ice.<br />
In 2008 there was MORE Arctic ice (in minimum) than in 2007 and in the Antarctic ice (in maximum) there was LESS ice than 2007.<br />
It seems interesting how in this timeframe the two caps seem to be following the same pattern, yet in completely opposite directions. This does not fit with the AGW belief that both caps should behave in the same way.<br />
Surely this might an indication of something other than anthro GHGs??? Natural variability in oceanic currents??<br />
Any comments?</p>
<p>From:  SVENSMARK: COSMOCLIMATOLOGY</p>
<p>Cloud tops have a high albedo and exert their cooling effect by scattering back into the cosmos<br />
much of the sunlight that could otherwise warm the surface. But the snows on the Antarctic ice<br />
sheets are dazzlingly white, with a higher albedo than the cloud tops. There, extra cloud cover<br />
warms the surface, and less cloudiness cools it. Satellite measurements show the warming effect<br />
of clouds on Antarctica, and meteorologists at far southern latitudes confirm it by observation. Greenland too has an ice sheet, but it is smaller and not so white. And while conditions in Greenland are coupled to the general climate of the northern hemisphere, Antarctica is largely isolated by vortices in the ocean and the air.<br />
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		<title>By: Ellie In Belfast</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellie In Belfast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caleb, 

Limestone weathering: CaCO3 + CO2 (dissolved) = Ca(HCO3)2 (calcium bicarbonate).  

Dodgy Geezer, 

thanks for the competition link - I got really excited until i realised the prize is only £500 and probably aimed at students. I have a winning idea and I may be a skeptic but I am also a cynic and funding is funding.  But then i couldn&#039;t live with myself if i won - think of all that publicity they&#039;re planning.  I&#039;d be smiling in photos and feeling like a hypocrite while I&#039;m really thinking &quot;I don&#039;t believe the world needs CO2 capture&quot;.  Perhaps it would be worth it to use the publicity to blast AGW and renounce the prize. That would grab a few (minor) headlines.  

Hmm. Faced with this scenario though, would a scientist or engineer who relies on government research funding take such a risk?? And so the myth perpetuates. 

Re New York City Sewage - Anaerobic digestion is already used to treat sewage sludge in Brooklyn, but the methane produced is flared (i.e. wasted by just burning it).  A new installation will use it to produce electricity and heat: Biogas System to be Installed at Brooklyn Wastewater Treatment Facility
http://www.energyvortex.com/pages/headlinedetails.cfm?id=1983&amp;archive=1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caleb, </p>
<p>Limestone weathering: CaCO3 + CO2 (dissolved) = Ca(HCO3)2 (calcium bicarbonate).  </p>
<p>Dodgy Geezer, </p>
<p>thanks for the competition link &#8211; I got really excited until i realised the prize is only £500 and probably aimed at students. I have a winning idea and I may be a skeptic but I am also a cynic and funding is funding.  But then i couldn&#8217;t live with myself if i won &#8211; think of all that publicity they&#8217;re planning.  I&#8217;d be smiling in photos and feeling like a hypocrite while I&#8217;m really thinking &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe the world needs CO2 capture&#8221;.  Perhaps it would be worth it to use the publicity to blast AGW and renounce the prize. That would grab a few (minor) headlines.  </p>
<p>Hmm. Faced with this scenario though, would a scientist or engineer who relies on government research funding take such a risk?? And so the myth perpetuates. </p>
<p>Re New York City Sewage &#8211; Anaerobic digestion is already used to treat sewage sludge in Brooklyn, but the methane produced is flared (i.e. wasted by just burning it).  A new installation will use it to produce electricity and heat: Biogas System to be Installed at Brooklyn Wastewater Treatment Facility<br />
<a href="http://www.energyvortex.com/pages/headlinedetails.cfm?id=1983&#038;archive=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.energyvortex.com/pages/headlinedetails.cfm?id=1983&#038;archive=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caleb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Limestone contains varying amounts of calcite,  CaCO3,  as its primary ingredient.

What happens when it weathers?  Does it truly absorb CO2 as it weathers,  as Pete suggests?  What is the chemical equation of such weathering?  CaCO3 plus CO2 equals ????.

When continents collide,  such as was the case when India crashed into Asia,  raising the Himalayas,  huge amounts of limestone must have been incorporated into volcanic eruptions,  (as well as the existing coal,  oil and gas reserves of those continental shelves.)  How did the planet handle the out-gassing of so much CO2,  and was it in any way similar to current conditions?

What a wonder this planet is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limestone contains varying amounts of calcite,  CaCO3,  as its primary ingredient.</p>
<p>What happens when it weathers?  Does it truly absorb CO2 as it weathers,  as Pete suggests?  What is the chemical equation of such weathering?  CaCO3 plus CO2 equals ????.</p>
<p>When continents collide,  such as was the case when India crashed into Asia,  raising the Himalayas,  huge amounts of limestone must have been incorporated into volcanic eruptions,  (as well as the existing coal,  oil and gas reserves of those continental shelves.)  How did the planet handle the out-gassing of so much CO2,  and was it in any way similar to current conditions?</p>
<p>What a wonder this planet is.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AnyMouse,

They are primarily calcium on an atomic weight (about 40 to 12) and volume basis (roughly  (2.23/.91)**3), although there is one Calcium atom for every Carbon atom in Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3), so it&#039;s a 50/50 split as far as # of atoms goes.  

Actually it brings an interesting (ROM) calculation.  

WARNING:  Back of the envelope calculation coming....

 The density of the Carbon in the shells is roughly (12/40) x CaCO3 Density of 2.83 g/cm³, = .85 gm/cm3.  Compare that to the density in the air from CO2 which is (roughly) (380/1,000,000) x 1.98 gm/l = 0.0007524 gm/l.

So the weight density of Carbon in shells is (.85 gm/cm**3)/(.0007524 gm/l) = 1,129,718 times greater than the weight density in air. 

I wonder if that&#039;s anywhere close to being right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AnyMouse,</p>
<p>They are primarily calcium on an atomic weight (about 40 to 12) and volume basis (roughly  (2.23/.91)**3), although there is one Calcium atom for every Carbon atom in Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3), so it&#8217;s a 50/50 split as far as # of atoms goes.  </p>
<p>Actually it brings an interesting (ROM) calculation.  </p>
<p>WARNING:  Back of the envelope calculation coming&#8230;.</p>
<p> The density of the Carbon in the shells is roughly (12/40) x CaCO3 Density of 2.83 g/cm³, = .85 gm/cm3.  Compare that to the density in the air from CO2 which is (roughly) (380/1,000,000) x 1.98 gm/l = 0.0007524 gm/l.</p>
<p>So the weight density of Carbon in shells is (.85 gm/cm**3)/(.0007524 gm/l) = 1,129,718 times greater than the weight density in air. </p>
<p>I wonder if that&#8217;s anywhere close to being right?</p>
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		<title>By: Kum Dollison</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/17/can-oyster-art-curb-global-warming/#comment-49497</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kum Dollison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hunter touched on an, often, overlooked truth.  Many (most?) times the &quot;cleanest&quot; method is the most energy-efficient method.  

As energy resources get more scarce, and thus more expensive, polluting behavior will become less profitable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hunter touched on an, often, overlooked truth.  Many (most?) times the &#8220;cleanest&#8221; method is the most energy-efficient method.  </p>
<p>As energy resources get more scarce, and thus more expensive, polluting behavior will become less profitable.</p>
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		<title>By: AnyMouse</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AnyMouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oyster shells are primarily calcium, not carbon.  If the art students would paint oyster shells with carbon-based paint then they&#039;d be sequestering carbon for as long as the shells are on display.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oyster shells are primarily calcium, not carbon.  If the art students would paint oyster shells with carbon-based paint then they&#8217;d be sequestering carbon for as long as the shells are on display.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dodgy Geezer,

The engineering angle competition indicates that the solution  must either  (a) Reduce the content of GHGs in the planet’s atmosphere, or (b) Alter the climate system beneficially.

I would propose that an engineering solution to increase CO2, perhaps to levels of about 1000PPM that many greenhouses do should be a winner as it should beneficially alter the climate system by slowing the current probable natural cycle cooling  over the next 30 years(?) and increase plant growth to benefit forest regeneration and food production.   If global cooling is not to be, then this would warm us up by perhaps 1.5C and warmer is better.  If we can get it higher than 1000PPM that would be just a nice bonus.  By the way, OSHA says 5000PPM is the upper limit for workplace exposure (although they didn&#039;t really have any evidence that it was bad above these levels, so they made a conservative choice.

Increasing clean burning hrdrocarbon use might be a good idea, except to the extent that it may waste our supplies over the next 200 years.  A means of coating of exposed carbonate rock to slow the absorption of CO2 due to weathering of limestone could help, but may be impractical.

So, my grand solution is to dump clam and oyster shells (and any available carbonate rock like limestone) into the nearest volcano to release the carbon from the carbonates.  This additionally has the benefit of removing those sharp oyster shells from areas frequented by bathers.  Those shells can give you some nasty cuts on you feet, and I should know as I&#039;ve done it quite a few times.

We should establish aquaculture production areas around the world in close vicinity of volcanoes, so we could quickly get the shells into the volcano and reduce the disposal concerns that arise around shellfish preparation plants.

Think I could have a winner here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodgy Geezer,</p>
<p>The engineering angle competition indicates that the solution  must either  (a) Reduce the content of GHGs in the planet’s atmosphere, or (b) Alter the climate system beneficially.</p>
<p>I would propose that an engineering solution to increase CO2, perhaps to levels of about 1000PPM that many greenhouses do should be a winner as it should beneficially alter the climate system by slowing the current probable natural cycle cooling  over the next 30 years(?) and increase plant growth to benefit forest regeneration and food production.   If global cooling is not to be, then this would warm us up by perhaps 1.5C and warmer is better.  If we can get it higher than 1000PPM that would be just a nice bonus.  By the way, OSHA says 5000PPM is the upper limit for workplace exposure (although they didn&#8217;t really have any evidence that it was bad above these levels, so they made a conservative choice.</p>
<p>Increasing clean burning hrdrocarbon use might be a good idea, except to the extent that it may waste our supplies over the next 200 years.  A means of coating of exposed carbonate rock to slow the absorption of CO2 due to weathering of limestone could help, but may be impractical.</p>
<p>So, my grand solution is to dump clam and oyster shells (and any available carbonate rock like limestone) into the nearest volcano to release the carbon from the carbonates.  This additionally has the benefit of removing those sharp oyster shells from areas frequented by bathers.  Those shells can give you some nasty cuts on you feet, and I should know as I&#8217;ve done it quite a few times.</p>
<p>We should establish aquaculture production areas around the world in close vicinity of volcanoes, so we could quickly get the shells into the volcano and reduce the disposal concerns that arise around shellfish preparation plants.</p>
<p>Think I could have a winner here?</p>
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