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	<title>Comments on: NBC film crew stranded in Arctic on icebreaker 3 weeks</title>
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		<title>By: garron</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/30/msnbc-film-crew-stranded-in-arctic-on-icebreaker-3-weeks/#comment-46547</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Michelle Hale (09:32:16) :

Anyone seriously interested in finding out about the excellent multidisciplinary science that went on during this expedition (and on other legs of the same program) should check out the ArcticNet website (www.arcticnet-ulaval.ca)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have no interest in browsing any pro-AGW site where the &quot;science&quot; is &quot;settled.&quot;  If you have a direct link to an article you wish to discuss. . . . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Michelle Hale (09:32:16) :</p>
<p>Anyone seriously interested in finding out about the excellent multidisciplinary science that went on during this expedition (and on other legs of the same program) should check out the ArcticNet website (www.arcticnet-ulaval.ca)
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<p>I have no interest in browsing any pro-AGW site where the &#8220;science&#8221; is &#8220;settled.&#8221;  If you have a direct link to an article you wish to discuss. . . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Hale</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/30/msnbc-film-crew-stranded-in-arctic-on-icebreaker-3-weeks/#comment-46401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Hale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone seriously interested in finding out about the excellent multidisciplinary science that went on during this expedition (and on other legs of the same program) should check out the ArcticNet website (www.arcticnet-ulaval.ca)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone seriously interested in finding out about the excellent multidisciplinary science that went on during this expedition (and on other legs of the same program) should check out the ArcticNet website (www.arcticnet-ulaval.ca)</p>
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		<title>By: Around the horn (9/28-10/4) &#171; Zoo Station</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/30/msnbc-film-crew-stranded-in-arctic-on-icebreaker-3-weeks/#comment-45561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Around the horn (9/28-10/4) &#171; Zoo Station]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] On a global warming expedition to the arctic to film a show on the earth&#8217;s melting ice caps, this NBC News crew was stranded for 3 weeks because of all the ice: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On a global warming expedition to the arctic to film a show on the earth&#8217;s melting ice caps, this NBC News crew was stranded for 3 weeks because of all the ice: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t you just hate it when that happens? &#171; WHATEVER!</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/30/msnbc-film-crew-stranded-in-arctic-on-icebreaker-3-weeks/#comment-45176</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don&#8217;t you just hate it when that happens? &#171; WHATEVER!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Read more about this &#8220;inconvenient truth&#8221;  here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Read more about this &#8220;inconvenient truth&#8221;  here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/30/msnbc-film-crew-stranded-in-arctic-on-icebreaker-3-weeks/#comment-45040</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Mother Nature had other plans...&quot;

Imagine that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mother Nature had other plans&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Imagine that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dang Global Warming - or lack thereof &#171; Benjamin Euler</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/30/msnbc-film-crew-stranded-in-arctic-on-icebreaker-3-weeks/#comment-45017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dang Global Warming - or lack thereof &#171; Benjamin Euler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Global Warming - or lack&#160;thereof   From Challies.com: NBC Crew Stranded in Arctic I just love this story. A NBC film crew went to the Arctic to report on the lack of ice but have [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Global Warming &#8211; or lack&nbsp;thereof   From Challies.com: NBC Crew Stranded in Arctic I just love this story. A NBC film crew went to the Arctic to report on the lack of ice but have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Nicklin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Nicklin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JoeH

&lt;i&gt;Just curious, what does this mean, “we’ll remind you this is a French-Canadian ship”?&lt;/i&gt; 

It is a Canadian Coast Guard ice breaker. He is probably referring to the majority of the crew being French-Canadian, which is likely the case. On the east coast and northern routes, the vessels often have francophone crews.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoeH</p>
<p><i>Just curious, what does this mean, “we’ll remind you this is a French-Canadian ship”?</i> </p>
<p>It is a Canadian Coast Guard ice breaker. He is probably referring to the majority of the crew being French-Canadian, which is likely the case. On the east coast and northern routes, the vessels often have francophone crews.</p>
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		<title>By: syncrodox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[syncrodox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saul

Those are Suzuki polar bears.  As such they have been trained by legions of granola eating, hemp cloth wearing environmentalists to tread water.

What we have found though is that the bears find hemp hard to digest.  The Suzuki Foundation is therefore looking to outfit it&#039;s volunteers in more environmentally friendly clothing.  The local Inuit have suggested seal skin snowsuits with &quot;chum&quot; filled pockets.

All in all it looks like the bears will survive.....unless we run out of  leftards.

Syncro]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saul</p>
<p>Those are Suzuki polar bears.  As such they have been trained by legions of granola eating, hemp cloth wearing environmentalists to tread water.</p>
<p>What we have found though is that the bears find hemp hard to digest.  The Suzuki Foundation is therefore looking to outfit it&#8217;s volunteers in more environmentally friendly clothing.  The local Inuit have suggested seal skin snowsuits with &#8220;chum&#8221; filled pockets.</p>
<p>All in all it looks like the bears will survive&#8230;..unless we run out of  leftards.</p>
<p>Syncro</p>
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		<title>By: Saul Wall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saul Wall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why didn&#039;t those media guys jump in and save those poor drowning polar bears in the last photograph? Heartless cowards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t those media guys jump in and save those poor drowning polar bears in the last photograph? Heartless cowards.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just curious, what does this mean, &quot;we’ll remind you this is a French-Canadian ship&quot;?  Yes, Canada does have a French-speaking province but this seems to imply the Canadian Coast Guard might have just Canadian ships.  Why would one need a French-Canadian ship on the west coast for example?

And this seems like rather gratuitous comment by the reporter, &quot;In Canada, the Coast Guard is civilian, not military.&quot;  God forbid the evil military be associated with life saving.

Last, there&#039;s this, &quot;To our eye, it’s roughly, 10 by 12 feet. A thin curtain is the only thing separating us — and our dignity.&quot;  Another reporter who&#039;s never been in the military.  

Ok, this is the last comment/question, I wonder what their carbon generation was for this trip?  Did they purchase off-sets?  Just askin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious, what does this mean, &#8220;we’ll remind you this is a French-Canadian ship&#8221;?  Yes, Canada does have a French-speaking province but this seems to imply the Canadian Coast Guard might have just Canadian ships.  Why would one need a French-Canadian ship on the west coast for example?</p>
<p>And this seems like rather gratuitous comment by the reporter, &#8220;In Canada, the Coast Guard is civilian, not military.&#8221;  God forbid the evil military be associated with life saving.</p>
<p>Last, there&#8217;s this, &#8220;To our eye, it’s roughly, 10 by 12 feet. A thin curtain is the only thing separating us — and our dignity.&#8221;  Another reporter who&#8217;s never been in the military.  </p>
<p>Ok, this is the last comment/question, I wonder what their carbon generation was for this trip?  Did they purchase off-sets?  Just askin.</p>
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		<title>By: New Brunswick Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Brunswick Barry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This &quot;reporter&quot; has been on board the Amundsen for three weeks and still manages to get it wrong that the Canadian Coast Guard is part of the &quot;Department of Oceans and Fisheries&quot;? Doesn&#039;t anybody fact check anymore? As almost any Canadian could tell you, Peter, it&#039;s DFO, DFO, DFO -- Department of Fisheries and Oceans. No big deal? Perhaps not, but you only got it freakin&#039; backward, that&#039;s all. What does that say about the factual quality of any of your other &quot;reporting&quot;? Maybe the real story is global cooling, not warming. Oh...whatever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;reporter&#8221; has been on board the Amundsen for three weeks and still manages to get it wrong that the Canadian Coast Guard is part of the &#8220;Department of Oceans and Fisheries&#8221;? Doesn&#8217;t anybody fact check anymore? As almost any Canadian could tell you, Peter, it&#8217;s DFO, DFO, DFO &#8212; Department of Fisheries and Oceans. No big deal? Perhaps not, but you only got it freakin&#8217; backward, that&#8217;s all. What does that say about the factual quality of any of your other &#8220;reporting&#8221;? Maybe the real story is global cooling, not warming. Oh&#8230;whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 1500&#039;s - 1600&#039;s the popular notion was that the arctic was a warm place.  They reasoned that if the sun shone there 24/7 for a good part of the year, it must be nice and toasty, and most importantly, ice free.  Early voyages north even reported back &#039;evidence&#039; to support this, finding driftwood or plants that looked tropical to them.

There is a good-sized body of historical work on the search for a passage through the arctic to the spice islands.  Maybe these warming researchers should have read some of it while waiting for their pastry chef to make them some more goodies.  They might have learned that Hudson in his wooden boat got 300 miles closer to the pole than they did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1500&#8242;s &#8211; 1600&#8242;s the popular notion was that the arctic was a warm place.  They reasoned that if the sun shone there 24/7 for a good part of the year, it must be nice and toasty, and most importantly, ice free.  Early voyages north even reported back &#8216;evidence&#8217; to support this, finding driftwood or plants that looked tropical to them.</p>
<p>There is a good-sized body of historical work on the search for a passage through the arctic to the spice islands.  Maybe these warming researchers should have read some of it while waiting for their pastry chef to make them some more goodies.  They might have learned that Hudson in his wooden boat got 300 miles closer to the pole than they did.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Junga</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Junga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gee, maybe the media actually believed their own press reports and thought the Arctic was turning into a tropical paradise!
Maybe, eventually, they will get the idea that maybe, just maybe, that AGW is a big hullabaloo over practically nothing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, maybe the media actually believed their own press reports and thought the Arctic was turning into a tropical paradise!<br />
Maybe, eventually, they will get the idea that maybe, just maybe, that AGW is a big hullabaloo over practically nothing!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff B.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I doubt these folks will retain any lessons.   Those of us who actually read all sides of the climate change issue and allow ourselves to be persuaded by science and not politics, are learning lessons.   Those in the media and on the couture environmental scene don&#039;t want to be convinced of anything, they just want to continue with their political agenda.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I doubt these folks will retain any lessons.   Those of us who actually read all sides of the climate change issue and allow ourselves to be persuaded by science and not politics, are learning lessons.   Those in the media and on the couture environmental scene don&#8217;t want to be convinced of anything, they just want to continue with their political agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: John Riddell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Riddell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gardy LaRoche 

you said
 
&quot;Nature is cruel&quot;

but it isn&#039;t.

It just doesn&#039;t care.

But I agree with the rest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gardy LaRoche </p>
<p>you said</p>
<p>&#8220;Nature is cruel&#8221;</p>
<p>but it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It just doesn&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>But I agree with the rest.</p>
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