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		<title>By: John-X</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/28/convenience-stores-under-attack-by-agw-zealots/#comment-44374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John-X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[” People will have to be rationed to four modest portions of meat and one litre of milk a week if the world is to avoid run-away climate change, a major new report warns. ”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/30/food.ethicalliving

Not long ago, I was going through two gallons of skim milk per week - just putting it in my coffee! (mostly decaf, natch)

If you want to know why it&#039;s been so warm lately, THAT&#039;S why - all the bovine flatulence I&#039;ve been supporting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>” People will have to be rationed to four modest portions of meat and one litre of milk a week if the world is to avoid run-away climate change, a major new report warns. ”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/30/food.ethicalliving" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/30/food.ethicalliving</a></p>
<p>Not long ago, I was going through two gallons of skim milk per week &#8211; just putting it in my coffee! (mostly decaf, natch)</p>
<p>If you want to know why it&#8217;s been so warm lately, THAT&#8217;S why &#8211; all the bovine flatulence I&#8217;ve been supporting.</p>
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		<title>By: John-X</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/28/convenience-stores-under-attack-by-agw-zealots/#comment-44346</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John-X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Meat must be rationed to four portions a week, says report on climate change

&quot; People will have to be rationed to four modest portions of meat and one litre of milk a week if the world is to avoid run-away climate change, a major new report warns. &quot;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/30/food.ethicalliving]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Meat must be rationed to four portions a week, says report on climate change</p>
<p>&#8221; People will have to be rationed to four modest portions of meat and one litre of milk a week if the world is to avoid run-away climate change, a major new report warns. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/30/food.ethicalliving" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/30/food.ethicalliving</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Cobb</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/28/convenience-stores-under-attack-by-agw-zealots/#comment-44332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Cobb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops, forgot strike 4 - for good measure, another Dalton (if we&#039;re lucky) Minimum coming, if not already underway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, forgot strike 4 &#8211; for good measure, another Dalton (if we&#8217;re lucky) Minimum coming, if not already underway.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Cobb</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/28/convenience-stores-under-attack-by-agw-zealots/#comment-44331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Cobb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see, we have:  1) energy prices which have skyrocketed and remain high (though oil prices have dropped a bit recently),  2) a U.S economy in a tailspin over the mortgage mess, threatening economies worldwide, and on top of everything we have 3) the AGW fraudsters screaming that we have to reduce our &quot;carbon&quot; output immediately, passing idiotic and costly laws, etc.  Strike three.  Stone age 2, here we come.  Which is what AGWers want, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see, we have:  1) energy prices which have skyrocketed and remain high (though oil prices have dropped a bit recently),  2) a U.S economy in a tailspin over the mortgage mess, threatening economies worldwide, and on top of everything we have 3) the AGW fraudsters screaming that we have to reduce our &#8220;carbon&#8221; output immediately, passing idiotic and costly laws, etc.  Strike three.  Stone age 2, here we come.  Which is what AGWers want, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ in Korea</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/28/convenience-stores-under-attack-by-agw-zealots/#comment-44274</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DJ in Korea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, the &quot;Eco-Freaks&quot; are having a field day with our collective freedoms.  Oh, and to Mike Dubrasich&#039;s comment about Daylight Savings Time, the original intent was to allow folks in the agrarian businesses more &quot;daylight&quot; to work in the fields and related industries.  As we&#039;ve become more mechanical and electronic (read indoor work) in nature, we run lights and HVAC systems MORE thus burn up any savings we initially gained with the time change.  If you want to take advantage of the &quot;extra&quot; daylight in the summer months just change your work schedule (called flex time in most businesses) and please leave MY natural sleep cycle ALONE!  Why can&#039;t folks see that the time change is merely cutting something off of one end and tying it on the other?  Since I&#039;ve moved to Korea to work I do not have to suffer the traumatic &quot;spring-forward&quot; shock to my system every April.  Man, I can&#039;t tell you how nice that is!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the &#8220;Eco-Freaks&#8221; are having a field day with our collective freedoms.  Oh, and to Mike Dubrasich&#8217;s comment about Daylight Savings Time, the original intent was to allow folks in the agrarian businesses more &#8220;daylight&#8221; to work in the fields and related industries.  As we&#8217;ve become more mechanical and electronic (read indoor work) in nature, we run lights and HVAC systems MORE thus burn up any savings we initially gained with the time change.  If you want to take advantage of the &#8220;extra&#8221; daylight in the summer months just change your work schedule (called flex time in most businesses) and please leave MY natural sleep cycle ALONE!  Why can&#8217;t folks see that the time change is merely cutting something off of one end and tying it on the other?  Since I&#8217;ve moved to Korea to work I do not have to suffer the traumatic &#8220;spring-forward&#8221; shock to my system every April.  Man, I can&#8217;t tell you how nice that is!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Dubrasich</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/28/convenience-stores-under-attack-by-agw-zealots/#comment-44228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Dubrasich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One simple solution: make daylight savings time year-round, and also enact double and triple daylight savings. If the populace can forced to get out of bed earlier and earlier, everybody will be too tired to stay up late.

btw, my favorite inconvenience store name is one in McMinnville, OR: the McMiniMart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One simple solution: make daylight savings time year-round, and also enact double and triple daylight savings. If the populace can forced to get out of bed earlier and earlier, everybody will be too tired to stay up late.</p>
<p>btw, my favorite inconvenience store name is one in McMinnville, OR: the McMiniMart.</p>
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		<title>By: BigJim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigJim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is such BS. I have worked at night for 13 years. Even now nothing is convenient for people who are not nine to fivers.  This would just make things worse for night shift people, travelers, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such BS. I have worked at night for 13 years. Even now nothing is convenient for people who are not nine to fivers.  This would just make things worse for night shift people, travelers, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: evanjones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[evanjones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the encouraging aspects of mass computerization has been the relative lack of intrusiveness as compared with capabilities. We&#039;ve all read and watched science fiction versions of the takeover by machines and encroaching big brotherhood.

But it never really happened. Computers greatly increased and improved employment. Corporations snooped, but did so to gather data to turn a buck, not to blackmail a man into obeisance.

Even public cameras did not take away our freedoms, they just resulted in a lot of bank robberies and other crimes being solved and greater public safety. (And if you get a ticket in the mail for running a red light, you&#039;ll get little sympathy off of me.)

We gained the ability to track via bug, but all we did, mainly, was to chip our pets so they could be found when lost.

Who would have thought Free Man would have been so moral, so responsible relative to enhanced capabilities?

But now we start to see a very disturbing trend. An intrusive, insidious control by the self-righteous. If these dangerous bozos get their way, they&#039;ll be writing us right into the science fiction horror books. They are to be stopped in their tracks. We have only our vote to stop them. Use it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the encouraging aspects of mass computerization has been the relative lack of intrusiveness as compared with capabilities. We&#8217;ve all read and watched science fiction versions of the takeover by machines and encroaching big brotherhood.</p>
<p>But it never really happened. Computers greatly increased and improved employment. Corporations snooped, but did so to gather data to turn a buck, not to blackmail a man into obeisance.</p>
<p>Even public cameras did not take away our freedoms, they just resulted in a lot of bank robberies and other crimes being solved and greater public safety. (And if you get a ticket in the mail for running a red light, you&#8217;ll get little sympathy off of me.)</p>
<p>We gained the ability to track via bug, but all we did, mainly, was to chip our pets so they could be found when lost.</p>
<p>Who would have thought Free Man would have been so moral, so responsible relative to enhanced capabilities?</p>
<p>But now we start to see a very disturbing trend. An intrusive, insidious control by the self-righteous. If these dangerous bozos get their way, they&#8217;ll be writing us right into the science fiction horror books. They are to be stopped in their tracks. We have only our vote to stop them. Use it.</p>
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		<title>By: John-X</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John-X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patrick Henry (09:19:15) :

&quot; Good news! Big brother can now track your travel, location and carbon footprint 24×7 - for the good of the planet. &quot;

Gotta hand it to those folks over in Airstrip One - they&#039;re always a couple years ahead of us when it comes to this planet-saving technology

&quot; Carbon surveillance: Cellphones to track &#039;whether you are walking, driving or flying&#039;... &quot;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/29/carbonfootprints.travelandtransport

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airstrip_One]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Henry (09:19:15) :</p>
<p>&#8221; Good news! Big brother can now track your travel, location and carbon footprint 24×7 &#8211; for the good of the planet. &#8221;</p>
<p>Gotta hand it to those folks over in Airstrip One &#8211; they&#8217;re always a couple years ahead of us when it comes to this planet-saving technology</p>
<p>&#8221; Carbon surveillance: Cellphones to track &#8216;whether you are walking, driving or flying&#8217;&#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/29/carbonfootprints.travelandtransport" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/29/carbonfootprints.travelandtransport</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airstrip_One" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airstrip_One</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig D. Lattig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig D. Lattig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first thing that came to mind when I read this artical is that there are some cultural filters at work here. The Shijiku area of Tokyo not withstanding, most Japanese cities roll up the sidewalks right after normal work hours end. By 8 PM, the rare 7-11 really does become the only safe haven, aside from the occational police box. You can drive thru major urban areas and find one or two bars as the only lights on...and the Japanese like it that way. The core of the Japanese culture is very conservative...conforming is expected. Yes, to us this artical appears to be about AGW...but I suspect that a major portion is really about &quot;Why don&#039;t you close up and go home at night like the rest of us?&quot;
cdl]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing that came to mind when I read this artical is that there are some cultural filters at work here. The Shijiku area of Tokyo not withstanding, most Japanese cities roll up the sidewalks right after normal work hours end. By 8 PM, the rare 7-11 really does become the only safe haven, aside from the occational police box. You can drive thru major urban areas and find one or two bars as the only lights on&#8230;and the Japanese like it that way. The core of the Japanese culture is very conservative&#8230;conforming is expected. Yes, to us this artical appears to be about AGW&#8230;but I suspect that a major portion is really about &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you close up and go home at night like the rest of us?&#8221;<br />
cdl</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good news!  Big brother can now track your travel, location and carbon footprint 24x7 - for the good of the planet.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/29/carbonfootprints.travelandtransport]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news!  Big brother can now track your travel, location and carbon footprint 24&#215;7 &#8211; for the good of the planet.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/29/carbonfootprints.travelandtransport" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/29/carbonfootprints.travelandtransport</a></p>
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		<title>By: John-X</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/09/28/convenience-stores-under-attack-by-agw-zealots/#comment-44137</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John-X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dodgy Geezer (03:19:19) :

“.. we are very concerned about whether it is really good (that stores) stay lit up even past midnight,” Ando said…”

&quot; Umm? No, he isn’t. If he were VERY concerned about this he would be incandescent about street lights. But he’s not. So it’s just something to say to the press when the focus group picks another target to keep the Eco-brand in front of the public. &quot;

I think you&#039;ve hit on it.

I wondered when I saw this, of all things, why convenience stores?

Now I think I know.

1 - They sell tobacco

2 - They sell highly processed, non-organic, non-vegan, non-fair-trade food and beverages - disgusting cow-murder products such as &quot;Slim Jims&quot; and murdered-cow-jerky; cheap, industrial, exploitative coffee-like beverage and high-fructose-corn-syrup drinks

3 - They are notorious purveyors of certain non-feminist graphic journals

4 - Eco-snobs NEVER shop there!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodgy Geezer (03:19:19) :</p>
<p>“.. we are very concerned about whether it is really good (that stores) stay lit up even past midnight,” Ando said…”</p>
<p>&#8221; Umm? No, he isn’t. If he were VERY concerned about this he would be incandescent about street lights. But he’s not. So it’s just something to say to the press when the focus group picks another target to keep the Eco-brand in front of the public. &#8221;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve hit on it.</p>
<p>I wondered when I saw this, of all things, why convenience stores?</p>
<p>Now I think I know.</p>
<p>1 &#8211; They sell tobacco</p>
<p>2 &#8211; They sell highly processed, non-organic, non-vegan, non-fair-trade food and beverages &#8211; disgusting cow-murder products such as &#8220;Slim Jims&#8221; and murdered-cow-jerky; cheap, industrial, exploitative coffee-like beverage and high-fructose-corn-syrup drinks</p>
<p>3 &#8211; They are notorious purveyors of certain non-feminist graphic journals</p>
<p>4 &#8211; Eco-snobs NEVER shop there!</p>
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		<title>By: A.Syme</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A.Syme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have often wondered what percent of the work force works evenings and nights. For the airlines and transit systems, night is their big maintenance time. I know, I&#039;ve worked for both. Allot of mechanics,fuelers,and cleaners wouldn&#039;t mind having to shutdown for the night! I don&#039;t think many night workers actually enjoy the schedule they have, it&#039;s usually because of low seniority that they are working the shift their on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often wondered what percent of the work force works evenings and nights. For the airlines and transit systems, night is their big maintenance time. I know, I&#8217;ve worked for both. Allot of mechanics,fuelers,and cleaners wouldn&#8217;t mind having to shutdown for the night! I don&#8217;t think many night workers actually enjoy the schedule they have, it&#8217;s usually because of low seniority that they are working the shift their on.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Smith,

Bezmenov predicted exactly what has been happening over the last two decades.   Read the financial news this morning if you doubt it.  

New York Times -  September 30, 1999

&lt;i&gt;In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980&#039;s.

&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&#039;From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,&#039;&#039; said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. &#039;&#039;If they fail, the government will have to step up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.&#039;&#039; 

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&amp;sec=&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=1&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Smith,</p>
<p>Bezmenov predicted exactly what has been happening over the last two decades.   Read the financial news this morning if you doubt it.  </p>
<p>New York Times &#8211;  September 30, 1999</p>
<p><i>In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980&#8242;s.</p>
<p></i><i>&#8216;From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,&#8221; said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. &#8221;If they fail, the government will have to step up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&#038;sec=&#038;spon=&#038;pagewanted=1" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&#038;sec=&#038;spon=&#038;pagewanted=1</a></i></p>
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