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		<title>By: twawki</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/08/27/help-survey-a-weather-station-this-labor-day-weekend/#comment-47586</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twawki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI came across this thread with pics of numerous Australian AWS

http://forum.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003058]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI came across this thread with pics of numerous Australian AWS</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003058" rel="nofollow">http://forum.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003058</a></p>
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		<title>By: arkansas map</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/08/27/help-survey-a-weather-station-this-labor-day-weekend/#comment-40075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arkansas map]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] United States. Doing so, we??ve uncovered some very interesting siting and quality controlhttp://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/help-survey-a-weather-station-this-labor-day-weekend...Attention on Gustav The Daily IberianWith the threat of a major hurricane looming, local officials [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] United States. Doing so, we??ve uncovered some very interesting siting and quality controlhttp://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/help-survey-a-weather-station-this-labor-day-weekend&#8230;Attention on Gustav The Daily IberianWith the threat of a major hurricane looming, local officials [...]</p>
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		<title>By: agesilaus</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/08/27/help-survey-a-weather-station-this-labor-day-weekend/#comment-35197</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[agesilaus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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try the link again&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
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<p>try the link again</a></p>
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		<title>By: agesilaus</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/08/27/help-survey-a-weather-station-this-labor-day-weekend/#comment-35196</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[agesilaus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK I got photos of the Ocala station which I&#039;ll upload Sunday. The station has been moved to the Ocala Water Reclamation Station #2 at 4200 SE 24th ST (I think, I&#039;ll check my notes which are in the car) 

link:



The unit is just to the west of the gray roofed building in this google maps shot, close to the fence.

I work for the Gainesville Utilities dept which is 40 miles north and that got me an in to talk to the weekend operator at the original site that you put the map up for. I did not get to speak to the operator at the plant where it was moved. I&#039;d guess this is a 2-3 mile move.

No screen just one of the modern automated units and its about 25 feet from the building close by the parking lot and with all the associated water processing equipment and tanks on site.

BK

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks so much! - Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I got photos of the Ocala station which I&#8217;ll upload Sunday. The station has been moved to the Ocala Water Reclamation Station #2 at 4200 SE 24th ST (I think, I&#8217;ll check my notes which are in the car) </p>
<p>link:</p>
<p>The unit is just to the west of the gray roofed building in this google maps shot, close to the fence.</p>
<p>I work for the Gainesville Utilities dept which is 40 miles north and that got me an in to talk to the weekend operator at the original site that you put the map up for. I did not get to speak to the operator at the plant where it was moved. I&#8217;d guess this is a 2-3 mile move.</p>
<p>No screen just one of the modern automated units and its about 25 feet from the building close by the parking lot and with all the associated water processing equipment and tanks on site.</p>
<p>BK</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Thanks so much! &#8211; Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/08/27/help-survey-a-weather-station-this-labor-day-weekend/#comment-34619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best way to find out what stations need to be surveyed is to check the photo gallery.  There is an album for each state, and a entry for each station.  If there are photos in there, it&#039;s been done.  Go to gallery.surfacestations.org]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to find out what stations need to be surveyed is to check the photo gallery.  There is an album for each state, and a entry for each station.  If there are photos in there, it&#8217;s been done.  Go to gallery.surfacestations.org</p>
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		<title>By: George M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony, I&#039;m confused. 

You had stated some time back that CA was complete, Hooray, but then your story about Santa Ana appeared, not previously surveyed.  How many different lists are there?  Which one(s) should we concentrate on?

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Thats a COOP-A station, I was talking about being complete for USHCN stations the COOP stations are the biggest list, with subsets for USHCN and GISS makes their own list which is some USHCN and some COOP-A stations. While I may occasionally highlight other stations in the blog, USHCN is the main focus. - Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, I&#8217;m confused. </p>
<p>You had stated some time back that CA was complete, Hooray, but then your story about Santa Ana appeared, not previously surveyed.  How many different lists are there?  Which one(s) should we concentrate on?</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Thats a COOP-A station, I was talking about being complete for USHCN stations the COOP stations are the biggest list, with subsets for USHCN and GISS makes their own list which is some USHCN and some COOP-A stations. While I may occasionally highlight other stations in the blog, USHCN is the main focus. &#8211; Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: photoburner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[photoburner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll try the Ocala station, we went down and looked for it months ago but could not find it, but you have a better map up now.

BK]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try the Ocala station, we went down and looked for it months ago but could not find it, but you have a better map up now.</p>
<p>BK</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony,

I have had a life-long interest in growing plants - trees, shrubs, flowers, vegetables - as a result I regularly up-dated my copy of the Western Garden Book.  According to the book, the West has 24 climate zones.  In other words climate is not global but local.  Example, Chico is in climate zone 9 while Orland, 20 miles away, is in zone 8.  In addition, some of the major zones include micro-climates,  From this one can conclude that climate as well as temperature is a local phenomena.  I did wonder how the Santa Anna Wind made it all the way to Chico, when I was there yesterday.  My Western Garden Book has not been up-dated in the last 12 years, when I experienced a sudden loss of interest, so maybe the climates have changed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony,</p>
<p>I have had a life-long interest in growing plants &#8211; trees, shrubs, flowers, vegetables &#8211; as a result I regularly up-dated my copy of the Western Garden Book.  According to the book, the West has 24 climate zones.  In other words climate is not global but local.  Example, Chico is in climate zone 9 while Orland, 20 miles away, is in zone 8.  In addition, some of the major zones include micro-climates,  From this one can conclude that climate as well as temperature is a local phenomena.  I did wonder how the Santa Anna Wind made it all the way to Chico, when I was there yesterday.  My Western Garden Book has not been up-dated in the last 12 years, when I experienced a sudden loss of interest, so maybe the climates have changed.</p>
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		<title>By: wattsupwiththat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wattsupwiththat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ted, only this one, station # 116910 Here are the details:


Location Description: RESIDENCE WITHIN AND 0.4 MILES SW OF PO AT PONTIAC IL
  	Topographic Details: URBAN AREA. SRG IS JUST A FEW FEET SOUTH OF VERMILLION RIVER, HEAVILY WOODED ALONG RIVER.

Here is the Google Earth link
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.88528,-88.63889&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;ll=40.885292,-88.638897&amp;spn=0.047759,0.076132&amp;t=h&amp;z=14&amp;iwloc=addr

This is a private observer, and must be treated with care. My advice, since it is a small town, is to ask around, such as at the post office, feed store, or newspaper. People in small towns usually know who keeps the weather records there.

Many observers are thrilled to have the attention, but make sure they understand we are only interested in documenting the conditions around the station, not revealing any personal information or identity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted, only this one, station # 116910 Here are the details:</p>
<p>Location Description: RESIDENCE WITHIN AND 0.4 MILES SW OF PO AT PONTIAC IL<br />
  	Topographic Details: URBAN AREA. SRG IS JUST A FEW FEET SOUTH OF VERMILLION RIVER, HEAVILY WOODED ALONG RIVER.</p>
<p>Here is the Google Earth link<br />
<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.88528,-88.63889&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;ll=40.885292,-88.638897&#038;spn=0.047759,0.076132&#038;t=h&#038;z=14&#038;iwloc=addr" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.88528,-88.63889&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;ll=40.885292,-88.638897&#038;spn=0.047759,0.076132&#038;t=h&#038;z=14&#038;iwloc=addr</a></p>
<p>This is a private observer, and must be treated with care. My advice, since it is a small town, is to ask around, such as at the post office, feed store, or newspaper. People in small towns usually know who keeps the weather records there.</p>
<p>Many observers are thrilled to have the attention, but make sure they understand we are only interested in documenting the conditions around the station, not revealing any personal information or identity.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Semon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Semon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m driving from the Chicago area to NW Arkansas next week and then back to Chicagoland the following week.  I&#039;ll be traveling by a few of the sites listed and will be glad to try my hand at this.  My (first) rookie question;

One site I&#039;m looking at is Pontiac, Illinois.  It seems to have two sites.  Are you looking for a survey from one or both?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m driving from the Chicago area to NW Arkansas next week and then back to Chicagoland the following week.  I&#8217;ll be traveling by a few of the sites listed and will be glad to try my hand at this.  My (first) rookie question;</p>
<p>One site I&#8217;m looking at is Pontiac, Illinois.  It seems to have two sites.  Are you looking for a survey from one or both?</p>
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		<title>By: retired engineer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[retired engineer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should have been RTD.  Getting old.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should have been RTD.  Getting old.</p>
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		<title>By: retired engineer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[retired engineer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A THERMISTOR ??? That can&#039;t be right. A thermocouple or RDT. Thermistors suck. They drift with time, are non-linear (which can be sort of compensated) and differ from part to part. There are some good companies making them, and they may jump up and down saying it ain&#039;t so, but I have used them. Cheap, but no where near good enough for what MMTS is used for. OK, perhaps they weren&#039;t intended for climate change monitoring, still...

Anthony, I think you need to add 1 to each CRN designation.  Maybe 2.

I&#039;ll try to grab a station hereabouts. Got my camera, GPS, compass, walking stick, and emergency food supply (in case it takes a while to find).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A THERMISTOR ??? That can&#8217;t be right. A thermocouple or RDT. Thermistors suck. They drift with time, are non-linear (which can be sort of compensated) and differ from part to part. There are some good companies making them, and they may jump up and down saying it ain&#8217;t so, but I have used them. Cheap, but no where near good enough for what MMTS is used for. OK, perhaps they weren&#8217;t intended for climate change monitoring, still&#8230;</p>
<p>Anthony, I think you need to add 1 to each CRN designation.  Maybe 2.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to grab a station hereabouts. Got my camera, GPS, compass, walking stick, and emergency food supply (in case it takes a while to find).</p>
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		<title>By: AEGeneral</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AEGeneral]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK. After Labor Day, September is looking like a fine month for surveys. 

Finally. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. After Labor Day, September is looking like a fine month for surveys. </p>
<p>Finally. :)</p>
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		<title>By: jeez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh, timing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, timing</p>
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		<title>By: wattsupwiththat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wattsupwiththat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AEGeneral. St. Johns was recent, and the list has not been updated.

Arkansas is wide open!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AEGeneral. St. Johns was recent, and the list has not been updated.</p>
<p>Arkansas is wide open!</p>
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