Comments on: More anecdotal and oddly cool summer weather: Rockford, IL yet to reach 90 degrees

By: David Pridham

David Pridham — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:57:31 +0000

Ottawa Canada: We have not exceeded 30 C (86 F) since early June. Forecast for tomorrow is to hit 30 C…we’ll see. By now the Ottawa area has typically had 10-15 days of 30 C or greater. Any warm weather that we get here at 46 degrees N latitude typically ends shortly after Labor Day. Measurable precipitation during 85% of the summer days thus far. Temperatures at night in very low 50’s for the past few days. Still no formal press releases from Environment Canada discussing the unusually cool summer we have experienced. Can’t wait to hear their spin at the end of the summer. 8th warmest summer of the new millenium.

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:13:03 +0000

Bill Marsh said:

“Of course the author had to make the obligatory (please don’t take my funding) statement about how AGW would ‘overwhelm this 2 million year old cycle, “by a lot”, in his words.”

He also offered no evidence to support his statement. This shows the extent of the corruption of science by the perpetrators of the AGW scam. The entire IPCC and their acolytes should be put in stocks and pelted with rotten fruit.

By: Catherine Behan

Catherine Behan — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:31:25 +0000

When I was just a pup back in the 1960’s my family vacationed at Rockford at a resort called the Wagon Wheel. It was a great spot and we had a lot of fun.

Can’t help but wonder if it is still there!

It is unusual to have such a mild summer! I wonder if the record will be broken!

Catherine

By: Beck

Beck — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:55:54 +0000

I was in Bakersfield yesterday and it was only 89F. Now for those of you familiar with Bakersfield summer is insanity at it’s best! When I was growing up there in the 70’s I remember there were several weeks where the temp did not fall below 100F and now for mid August to have a high of only 89F (with a nice cool breeze to boot) is wild. I moved to southern California to the Pasadena area and it has also been a pleasant summer. The mornings feel like fall as there is a very cool crispness to the air which to me is very reminiscent of October.

REPLY: Bakersfield aka “Roasterburg” at 89F in August. Truly a moment in time to ponder.

By: Leon Brozyna

Leon Brozyna — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:11:20 +0000

John B (17:30:05)

Not only is Farmers’ Almanac forecasting a cold winter but they’re also calling for more snowfall around the Great Lakes. January/February called on for the worst. Looks like a run to Home Depot is in order to get a new snow shovel…

NOAA, on the other hand, is forecasting a warm winter. At the same time they’re covering their, ahh, bases by saying that no one can forecast more than a week in advance with any accuracy.

My money’s on the Farmer’s Almanac.

By: beng

beng — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:48:55 +0000

Back in the nineties where I lived in mountainous, forested southwest Virginia, the highest summer temp one yr was 83F (28.5C). Only 2 yrs out of 14 that I lived there reached 90F.

Temps here in rural MD at lower elevation have reached 90F or above about a half dozen days this summer (94F was the highest) — none in August so far.

Not a summer of any remark, heat-wise.

By: mbuel

mbuel — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:17:39 +0000

it’s just more anecdotal evidence to back up the sun controlling the climate more than we do with CO2 emissions.

here in the northwest we just got up to the 90’s this last week… in mid August. And even then it never got as hot as they said it was going to… (record breaking possible day tomorrow! mid 90’s! in reality, it got up to the high 80’s to low 90’s).

This week the next cool front is heading across the northern US (we are at the front end of that here.) We’ve had more lightening storms here this year than I can remember for ANY year I’ve lived here since the early 90’s. Based upon what I know I think this is because the “cooling effect” that the earth’s climate is currently experiencing… the warm air that is coming up from the south is meeting the drastically cooler air from the north and creating some interesting storms.

It also has seemed that Hurricane strength, intensity, and numbers have been lower. This matches up with the oceans cooling off last year and this year. (Hurricane strength is largely derived from the heat in the ocean)

It will be extremely interesting to see just how cold it gets this winter. Can you say record breaking snow falls?

By: Bobby Lane

Bobby Lane — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:09:48 +0000

Where is Hansen when you neeeeeeeeeeeeed him?? LOL

By: Pamela Gray

Pamela Gray — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:53:59 +0000

I just posted that the ozone over California has become VERY thin! Included a URL so it ended up in the round file.

By: Pamela Gray

Pamela Gray — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:51:07 +0000

I had posted in another thread that I was watching the ozone to see if it would change when we got hit by some pretty major cosmic rays. Will you should see it now. There is a huge thin area over California. By the time some of you read this, the thin area may disappear. But wow!

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/rt/viewdata.php?product=o3_us

By: John B

John B — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:30:05 +0000

The Farmer’s Almanac is predicting a cooler than average winter this year.

http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/031815.html

By: David

David — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:03:25 +0000

Just reported a few minutes ago on the WLEX-18 Evening News…WLEX-18 is in Lexington, Kentucky

“OK…this morning’s low of 58 makes an unbelievable (and perhaps unprecedented) 12 straight day of low temperatures less than 60. Kids this is truly something amazing for August…big time stuff. So through the first 19 days of August, 12 of them have been less than 60. Only 2004 and 1976 had even 10 days in the first 19 to be that cool. For an entire month of August 2004 had 12 days below 60; 1992 had 12; 1976 had 15; 1946 had 16; 1927 had 12. The bottomline is we need 4 more days over the next week and a half to get to the record. But even without that, what an incredible month to enjoy!”

Excepted from Bill Meck’s Weather Blog…

http://208.101.36.42/weather/?p=778

By: moptop

moptop — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:20:25 +0000

Saranac, NY was 36 last night. Not that Saranac isn’t a mountain town that gets ridiculously cold, but still, this is mid August. I doubt it hit 40 in NY though. Saranac is about 7 hours by car from NYC.

By: Evan Jones

Evan Jones — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:55:16 +0000

I heard we hit hit 40F this morning in NYC. Not exactly typical for this time of year, even for a TMin.

By: Earle Williams

Earle Williams — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:16:08 +0000

KlausB,

I think you mean the 15th warmest…

;-)

By: KlausB

KlausB — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:03:43 +0000

addendum to my (13:55:39)

looks like the three months average, June July August will be 4th coldest of the last 18 years.

By: KlausB

KlausB — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:55:39 +0000

Here, near Frankfurt, Germany, sunshine hours are below 1998-2007 average now,
precipitation nearly double for August average, daily mean temperature decreased about 3° Celsius within the last twenty days, looks alike this August will be no. 11th
warmest out of the Augusts of the last 18 years. My longterm database/model for the
local weather tends to a rather early autumn and a December/Januar with low temperatures we have only every 12 to 20 years. The forests, animals behavior and old peoples say agree with that.

By: Bill Marsh

Bill Marsh — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:16:07 +0000

Austin,

Science daily just posted yet another study confirming the 1500 year temp cycle.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080819092017.htm

Of course the author had to make the obligatory (please don’t take my funding) statement about how AGW would ‘overwhelm this 2 million year old cycle, “by a lot”, in his words.

By: John Riddell

John Riddell — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:17 +0000

Last night on in New Zealand it was reported “Turoa ski field at Mt Ruapehu has set a record for the most snow ever recorded at a New Zealand ski field.”

Turoa ski field has recorded 4.55 metres of snow, causing the entire mountain to take on a different shape

On the TV news they said it took them a day and a half to find the long pole that is udsed to measure the snow’s depth.

http://www.3news.co.nz/News/WeatherNews/Turoaskifieldreceivesrecordamountofsnow/tabid/422/articleID/67901/Default.aspx?ArticleID=67901

By: Jeff L

Jeff L — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:29:24 +0000

The common theme which bonds a lot of the observations both on this post & the one concerning Denver’s hot streak is that circulation patterns in the NH appear to be very stagnent since spring – what ever weather you have have been getting, whether it is hot , cold, wet or dry, (examples of all have been posted) etc, it is likely that you will continue to get it. So the real questions are ” Why is the pattern / NH circulation considerably less dynamic than usual ? ” & ” What’s the implication for near term & long term weather & climate?” I have a few of my own ideas, but I would love to hear what some experts think. Anthony, any thoughts ???