Comments on: December 1986

By: December 1986 - Irony « Watts Up With That?

December 1986 - Irony « Watts Up With That? — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:08:56 +0000

[...] my post December 1986, I presented a histogram showing the GISS estimate of December 1986 minus the actual for GHCN [...]

By: Gary Gulrud

Gary Gulrud — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:52:57 +0000

“This is fraud, in my view.”

I will support the defense of Pierre for the foregoing ‘thought crime’ in EU courts.

By: Robert Wood

Robert Wood — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:01:20 +0000

Joel,

The importance of this is not that it means the whole so-called global warming has been man-made, statistically.

It’s importance is that it reveals the shoddy work, nay incompetence, of government employees who are attempting to dr4ive policy, for their own ideological reasons.

I eagerly await Anthony’s final report.

By: Joel Shore

Joel Shore — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:08:24 +0000

Before people get too excited about this, let’s do a rough estimate of the magnitude of this effect on the global temperature. It looks to me like the overall offset for Dec. is perhaps -1.5 C, being generous. This means that the 48-month average will be shifted down by about 0.03 C for Europe and Russia.

So, in what is almost certainly a worse case scenario, let’s assume this is true worldwide (even for the oceans…which seems very unlikely!), then we are talking about an effect that could explain ~0.03 C of the warming that has occurred. More likely, the biases introduced will not all go in the same direction…and, the oceans will not be affected and any bias worldwide will be well less than 0.01 C.

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Top Posts « WordPress.com — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:00:24 +0000

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By: Steven Talbot

Steven Talbot — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:52:58 +0000

Any process involving the splicing of data sets will have some error. The apparent trend enhancement in this particular region is not a product of bias in the methodology but an artifact of the splicing point for that particular region. It might just have well have gone the other way, and indeed this might well be the case for other regions of the globe. Before anyone presumes human bias I’d suggest they present the proof of it – that is the proper scientific approach to such matters.

By: Robert Wood

Robert Wood — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:14:46 +0000

December 1986 will go down in infamy.

Hey, global warming really was man-made :-)

I could go on with the drolery but seriously, why aren’t people more suspicious of all the data adjusting? Mistakes creep in; error builds on error.

By: Bill in Vigo

Bill in Vigo — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:07:43 +0000

Well SHAZAM

Bill Derryberry

By: Grant Hodges

Grant Hodges — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:26:14 +0000

Perhaps some collaboration with Michael Asher to make this a headline story?
First dig up three or four or people with credentials in atmospheric physics to read through this, look for fallacies, suggest ways to make your criticism bulletproof. Then get Asher to make it a headline.

By: Yul in Tulsa

Yul in Tulsa — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:15:35 +0000

En-Hansen-ments, Anthony.

By: Tom in Florida

Tom in Florida — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:59:11 +0000

As the saying goes, liars figure and figures lie.
Thanks for the easy to understand explanation.

By: Alan Chappell

Alan Chappell — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:28:59 +0000

Perhaps you should submit the article to ‘Nature’ ?
(to long ,to short, to much math, to difficult to understand, all the ‘peers’ are on holiday, or perhaps just ignorance, no reply)

By: Pierre Gosselin

Pierre Gosselin — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:28:59 +0000

This is fraud, in my view.
It’s high time we start looking for a good legal team to go after these manipulative public servants.

By: Aussie John

Aussie John — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:11:36 +0000

Maybe we should change the old saying to” Lies, damn lies and (take your pick) enhancements/estimates/models/adjustments”

By: deadwood

deadwood — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:38:36 +0000

Have you contacted the folks at GISS regarding the properties of this “enhancement”?