Comments on: NOAA: U.S. Temperature Above Normal in July

By: terry46

terry46 — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:56:57 +0000

I know it’s late in this post but i just saw on accuweather ,global warming, site where july was the 4th warmest since 1880.Now since i’ve been educated by Anthony here at watts up with that about missing weather temp data all over the U.S. I wonder how much data was there with this report since they are bias towards global warming?

By: David Pridham

David Pridham — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:00:53 +0000

Not to worry, Mary. It’s the 8th warmest summer this millenium!

By: Mary Hinge

Mary Hinge — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:17:03 +0000

David Predham- “This is global warming cultist’s mantra….that it’s “case closed”, global warming is here and caused by man. No further room for debate or conjecture and any contradictory scientific information or thesis should not tolerated and should be expunged from the record.”
I pity you if you believe this hogwash. Good science is based on debate and testing the hypothesis and no scientist would say “Case closed”. Your last paragraph seems to contradict what you have previosly been telling us, could you kindly remove the foam from your mouth and try and argue your point coherently or,to put it kindly “Put up or shut up!”.

By: David Pridham

David Pridham — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:47:27 +0000

“Why are you trying to scare people into believing your deluded conspiracy theory, take a note out of Anthony’s book; drop the scare tactics and stick to the truth……and stop trying to destroy those trilobites..the truth is out!!”

This is global warming cultist’s mantra….that it’s “case closed”, global warming is here and caused by man. No further room for debate or conjecture and any contradictory scientific information or thesis should not tolerated and should be expunged from the record.

It’s also certainly out of the realm of possibility that government organizations (NOAA, Envirnment Canada) might twist the truth to the unwashed masses to serve their own purposes. Can’t imagine that scenario playing out in our society. I’ll just crawl back into my neo-con hole – where I crush trilobite fossils that I run across and in the same breath deny both global warming and the holocaust.

By: Matthew Boyd

Matthew Boyd — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:28:51 +0000

Ohh yeah one other thing, if man is actually providing some imputus to global warming, why is it that we continuously hear the statement “we need to reduce burning of greenhouse producing coal, oil, etc.” emphasising the CO2, when we should be more concerned with the word BURNING, does that word not imply releasing heat, are we not talking about warming? seems like these would go more hand in hand than a guess that we are trapping heat more, it still gets plenty cold arround here in the winter when the suns rays are not as direct (yep just the angle of inciddence of the suns rays can swing a climate 70 degrees or more in a few months)

By: Matthew Boyd

Matthew Boyd — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:20:56 +0000

Well lets see where to begin…
I suppose first here in Omaha, we spent a whopping 4 whole hours at or above 100 degrees this year, and most days have been hovering near or below the average temp posted (I remember using my heater in May a few times). We had a rare F2 tornado in Omaha as well (they don’t usually hit inside the city, this one walked down the road about a half a mile from my house). We have had cloud cover most of the summer.
I remember tward the beginning of the year I read that this was going to be oe of the worst years yet. I didn’t think so. There is a reason. We are currently in one of the largest solar activity minimums in some time. If you want to see some startiling numbers compare the solar activity graph with the global temp one. (Dont forget to remember that heating and cooling a large body like the earth will take some time to accomplish so it doesn’t change instantly). I pose this to you which is more likely to warm the earth, the sun who’s mere presence can raise temperatures 20 to 30 degrees in a few hours, or CO2 which as a gas is a fraction of the earths atmosphere (Oh and dont forget how much CO2 is currently sitting bottled up on shelves in the form of your favorite soft drink, beer etc and yes an individual bottle will be drunk and gas released, but it will be replaced so a stable amount of co2 is being trapped now that wasn’t at the start of the century)
I recomend a BBC production called “The Global Warming Swindle” for any interested. Even one of the original members of Greenpeace has come to realize this.
Ohh and as for the sun, we are expected to remain at near zero levels untill December so my prediction is for another cold and wet winter.

By: Mike Keep

Mike Keep — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:22:20 +0000

Err….is this the right room for an argument!!

By: Mary Hinge

Mary Hinge — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:54:40 +0000

David Pridham- “There was considerably more scientific evidence to support Darwin’s original evolution hypothesis than the made made global warming theory. ”
Where do you get this garbage from!! Darwin’s theory was largely based on observation and hypothesising using palaeontological and natural historic evidence available at the time, there was very little scientific method used (ie. the testing of the hypothesis using a control etc.) The proponants of AGW have experiments, models etc. to test the theory (and no serious scientist would ever say “the science is settled”! Leave that to the politicians who know [moderator deletion] anyhow.
Why do you try and tell us that the Canadian Government is misinforming its population when it has only released the June figures. HadCRUT3 hasn’t released the July figures yet, does that mean there in this conspiracy as well? Why are you trying to scare people into believing your deluded conspiracy theory, take a note out of Anthony’s book; drop the scare tactics and stick to the truth……and stop trying to destroy those trilobites..the truth is out!!

By: Mike Bryant

Mike Bryant — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:19:29 +0000

Mary,
What a delight you are!
Mike

By: David Pridham

David Pridham — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:00:47 +0000

Coolest rainiest summer in over 15 yrs and Environment Canada is sticking with their forecast of a warmer, dryer summer than average. They control the information and spin it to meet their mission statement. Shockingly, they have not released a media report regarding July temperatures. In early July , they quickly released a statement suggested that June temps were 0.5 C warmer than average at our airport – due to the “warm nights” – which supported their un-erring predictions of a warmer than average summmer which is intended to keep a global warming doubting public on the edge of their seats. Here we are in mid-August and no similar statement has been released since it would be impossible for them to stastically manipulate any mean, median or mode temperature data for July to meet their mission statement.

I’m not surprised by the sheer audacity of the Gore zealots – comparing people who refuse to blindly accept the man-made global warming myth to luudites or Evolution deniers. There was considerably more scientic evidence to support Darwin’s original evolution hypothesis than the made made global warming theory.

More web sites with scripted responses for Global Warming deniers are clearly needed.

By: Mary Hinge

Mary Hinge — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:35:51 +0000

David Pridham- You do realise that average temperatures are taken from the entire 24 hours don’t you? It includes the high of the day, the low of the night and the remaining 23 hours and 58 minutes.
Darwin had the same doubters but as more evidence came to light, the theory of Evolution by natural selection became accepted as the best theory. The only doubters are religous extremists that deny the evidence and force their warped ideas on the young and gullible, the same opposition that AGW is facing now.
Keep telling yourself that the Canadian government is lying to you about the temperatures….its all a conspiracy isn’t it!

By: J. Peden

J. Peden — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:12:37 +0000

Maybe someone would like to confirm this one way or another, but I’ve just had an e-mail from Montreal telling me it’s the worst Summer on record. Is that right?

Max

If it’s in an e-mail, it must be true, Max. Whatever “it” and “true” is, it’s bad, really bad. There’s even a consensus on this matter. Just ask any Parrot, or perhaps Alex Baldwin.

By: Rob

Rob — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:47:37 +0000

[July 2008 was the 30th warmest July for the contiguous United States, based on records dating back to 1895]

Does that include the 60% UHI effect part of the warming.

By: David Pridham

David Pridham — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:28:37 +0000

To throw out the gauntel and accuse me of following the “Cult” of global cooling is a common tactic of the frothing-at-mouth Al Gore zealots. If ever a cult of intolerence of other’s ideas existed, it’s from the Global Warming zealots. Between death threats and threats to cut-off funding to climatologists who don’t follow Gore’s pseudo science – the global warmers are on-par with most militant special interest groups ever witnessed. Web sites are available for those who follow Gore’s mantra – but are unwilling to put in their own time to research the subject – that provide rehersed respones to global warming debates at cocktail parties and dinner engagement. Canned responses from lemmings. Think for yourselves everyone and don’t let them intimidate you.

By: David Pridham

David Pridham — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:19:50 +0000

Environment Canada’s prediction was for a warmer and dryer than normal summer in eastern Canada. 75% of the days thus far between June and August 11th have had measurable precipitation and cloud cover dominates. Temps struggle to surpass 24 C (76 F) on the sunnier days – a far cry from the average of 27 C (81 F) during the height of the summer. Night time lows have been bang on the historical norm of about 15 C (60 F). We have had NO sleepless summer nights where the temps stay in the 70′s. Air conditoners sit rusting in the summer of 2008. We have yet to water our lawn in 2008. Yet, Environment Canada continues to try to convince the media that its forecast is almost bang on. I can do so by telling people that nights are warmer than average – since everyone would understand their dishonesty if they tried to convince us that daytime temps were anywhere close to average. It’s warm late at night while you’re sleeping folks, honest! Environment Canada is complicit with Al Gore’s lie of the century and are in damage control to either manipulate empirical data or outright lie. Average (or more precisely MEAN) temperatures are important – just don;t mislead. EVERYONE in this City who has shivered through a cool, rainfilled summer knows that they are being fed a lie.