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	<title>Comments on: Some rational thought left &#8211; &#8220;climate change as curriculum&#8221; vetoed</title>
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		<title>By: Bobby Lane</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/27/some-rational-thought-left-climate-change-as-curriculum-vetoed/#comment-28180</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Lane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet another attempt to push the claim that the science on the reasons climate change is &quot;settled&quot; and thus there need be no debate.  Much how like Darwinistic evolution cannot be touched in the classroom, yet if you follow the Huxleyan formulation of &#039;survival of the fittest&#039; this would mean that Nature has doomed homosexual men and women to oblivion because they will not sexually reproduce even though they can.  Try pushing THAT in California schools.  Anyway, as I said, another slow motion attempt to quash debate by indoctrinating the next generation with the &quot;facts&quot; that &quot;prove&quot; no debate is needed.  Ridiculous.

PS - Anthony, I hope you&#039;ll see my point on gays and lesbians as a comment on logic and the insidious nature of that indoctrination attempt rather than as condemnation on people of that sexual persuasion - also it is not meant to stir any evolution/intelligent design debates.  This is not the forum for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another attempt to push the claim that the science on the reasons climate change is &#8220;settled&#8221; and thus there need be no debate.  Much how like Darwinistic evolution cannot be touched in the classroom, yet if you follow the Huxleyan formulation of &#8216;survival of the fittest&#8217; this would mean that Nature has doomed homosexual men and women to oblivion because they will not sexually reproduce even though they can.  Try pushing THAT in California schools.  Anyway, as I said, another slow motion attempt to quash debate by indoctrinating the next generation with the &#8220;facts&#8221; that &#8220;prove&#8221; no debate is needed.  Ridiculous.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Anthony, I hope you&#8217;ll see my point on gays and lesbians as a comment on logic and the insidious nature of that indoctrination attempt rather than as condemnation on people of that sexual persuasion &#8211; also it is not meant to stir any evolution/intelligent design debates.  This is not the forum for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;REPLY: Thats not the photo of that event&lt;/cite&gt;

Did he at least shiver?]]></description>
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<p>Did he at least shiver?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/27/some-rational-thought-left-climate-change-as-curriculum-vetoed/#comment-28153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;Are you people nuts? Some kids coming out of public school can’t read or do math and you want to force feed them this trash on global warming?&lt;/cite&gt;

I dunno. Makes sense to me (It only works if you can&#039;t think.)

&lt;cite&gt;Look up in the sky. There is only one force that causes global warming; the sun. You could have living thing on this earth fart at the same time and it won’t make a difference.&lt;/cite&gt;

Vile sun worshiper! The Sea Witches rule. Water defeats fire; so sayeth ye olde Feng Shue. Feh! Feh! 

&lt;cite&gt;Controlling people is the real truth behind global warming .&lt;/cite&gt;

&quot;You are getting warmer. You are getting warmer. Warmer . . .  Waaaarmer . . .&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Are you people nuts? Some kids coming out of public school can’t read or do math and you want to force feed them this trash on global warming?</cite></p>
<p>I dunno. Makes sense to me (It only works if you can&#8217;t think.)</p>
<p><cite>Look up in the sky. There is only one force that causes global warming; the sun. You could have living thing on this earth fart at the same time and it won’t make a difference.</cite></p>
<p>Vile sun worshiper! The Sea Witches rule. Water defeats fire; so sayeth ye olde Feng Shue. Feh! Feh! </p>
<p><cite>Controlling people is the real truth behind global warming .</cite></p>
<p>&#8220;You are getting warmer. You are getting warmer. Warmer . . .  Waaaarmer . . .&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Growing up in California, I went to a private school (and I am very thankful). I tried one year of public high school and realized those kids were pretty dumb. CA public schools are the worst in the nation. They need to cover the basics before trying to teach anything else. Although, I guess it is nice to teach 5th grader in California to recycle, because he will probably end up collecting cans for the rest of his life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up in California, I went to a private school (and I am very thankful). I tried one year of public high school and realized those kids were pretty dumb. CA public schools are the worst in the nation. They need to cover the basics before trying to teach anything else. Although, I guess it is nice to teach 5th grader in California to recycle, because he will probably end up collecting cans for the rest of his life.</p>
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		<title>By: Gore &#8220;Terminated&#8221;&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gore &#8220;Terminated&#8221;&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: retired engineer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[retired engineer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[papertiger: can you imagine the CA Supreme Court ruling against any government expansion? Or the Ninth Circus Court?

statepoet1775 has it right.  Freedom gives us security. Some of the alarmists want to shut off debate because they cannot win. Truth is our best defense.

&quot;Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.&quot; B. Franklin c. 1755]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>papertiger: can you imagine the CA Supreme Court ruling against any government expansion? Or the Ninth Circus Court?</p>
<p>statepoet1775 has it right.  Freedom gives us security. Some of the alarmists want to shut off debate because they cannot win. Truth is our best defense.</p>
<p>&#8220;Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.&#8221; B. Franklin c. 1755</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you people nuts? Some kids coming out of public school can&#039;t read or do math and you want to force feed them this trash on global warming? 
Look up in the sky. There is only one force that causes global warming; the sun. You could have living thing on this earth fart at the same time and it won&#039;t make a difference. 
Controlling people is the real truth behind global warming .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you people nuts? Some kids coming out of public school can&#8217;t read or do math and you want to force feed them this trash on global warming?<br />
Look up in the sky. There is only one force that causes global warming; the sun. You could have living thing on this earth fart at the same time and it won&#8217;t make a difference.<br />
Controlling people is the real truth behind global warming .</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And he smiled when he did it.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Thats not the photo of that event, its a stock photo. I&#039;m adding a disclaimer - Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And he smiled when he did it.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Thats not the photo of that event, its a stock photo. I&#8217;m adding a disclaimer &#8211; Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: papertiger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[papertiger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a pity that Arnold didn&#039;t sign it into law. It would be the break we have been waiting for on the legal front. Can you imagine the damage a California Supreme court ruling against climate change curriculum in public schools would have?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pity that Arnold didn&#8217;t sign it into law. It would be the break we have been waiting for on the legal front. Can you imagine the damage a California Supreme court ruling against climate change curriculum in public schools would have?</p>
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		<title>By: statePoet1775</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[statePoet1775]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Mutually exclusive?&quot;  Chris

Actually,  many would say that freedom ENHANCES security.  If I were a terrorist, would I rather deal with a one-size-fits-all security system or hundreds or even thousands of different security systems designed by ingenious Americans?  A truly free country would bewilder and frustrate its enemies.  In any case it would quickly and effectively respond.  Needless to say, truly free citizens would be armed too.
I read a science fiction short story based on this premise.  It is counter intuitive but true, IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mutually exclusive?&#8221;  Chris</p>
<p>Actually,  many would say that freedom ENHANCES security.  If I were a terrorist, would I rather deal with a one-size-fits-all security system or hundreds or even thousands of different security systems designed by ingenious Americans?  A truly free country would bewilder and frustrate its enemies.  In any case it would quickly and effectively respond.  Needless to say, truly free citizens would be armed too.<br />
I read a science fiction short story based on this premise.  It is counter intuitive but true, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: FatBigot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FatBigot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not have &quot;Global Warming&quot; on the curriculum?  

Week 1:   &quot;What causes it to be hotter during the day than during the night?&quot;  
Week 2:   &quot;What causes it to be hotter in summer than in winter?&quot;  
Week 3:   &quot;What causes it to be hotter at the equator than at the poles?&quot;
Week 4:   &quot;What causes it to be hotter in cities than in suburbs?&quot;  
Week 5:   &quot;What causes it to be hotter at ground level than at 30,000 feet?&quot;  
Week 6:   &quot;What causes clouds to form?&quot;  

There, that&#039;s the first half-term covered.  The pupils go home, play football, irritate their mothers and return for the second half:  

Week 7:   &quot;Earth surface temperatures from 1million BC to 1000 AD&quot;  
Week 8:   &quot;Earth surface temperatures from 1000AD to 1500.&quot;  
Week 9:   &quot;Earth surface temperatures from 1500 to 1750.&quot;  
Week 10: &quot;Earth surface temperatures from 1750 to 1850.&quot;
Week 11: &quot;Earth surface temperatures from 1850 to 1979.&quot;  
Week 12: &quot;Comparison of earth surface temperatures measured by satellite and at ground stations 1979-date.&quot;  

End of term.  

That should give them a good grounding and take them up to Christmas.  When they return they can learn both side of the argument about how those various figures can be interpreted, that&#039;s half a term.  Then they can learn about sunspots and oceanic oscillations, end of term 2.  

In the final term they can be told that some people think a gas comprising 4 parts in every 10,000 of the atmosphere determines how the climate will behave.  That is one week; the second week they are sent home because they are still laughing.  Fill the rest of the term how you will, I suggest cricket lessons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not have &#8220;Global Warming&#8221; on the curriculum?  </p>
<p>Week 1:   &#8220;What causes it to be hotter during the day than during the night?&#8221;<br />
Week 2:   &#8220;What causes it to be hotter in summer than in winter?&#8221;<br />
Week 3:   &#8220;What causes it to be hotter at the equator than at the poles?&#8221;<br />
Week 4:   &#8220;What causes it to be hotter in cities than in suburbs?&#8221;<br />
Week 5:   &#8220;What causes it to be hotter at ground level than at 30,000 feet?&#8221;<br />
Week 6:   &#8220;What causes clouds to form?&#8221;  </p>
<p>There, that&#8217;s the first half-term covered.  The pupils go home, play football, irritate their mothers and return for the second half:  </p>
<p>Week 7:   &#8220;Earth surface temperatures from 1million BC to 1000 AD&#8221;<br />
Week 8:   &#8220;Earth surface temperatures from 1000AD to 1500.&#8221;<br />
Week 9:   &#8220;Earth surface temperatures from 1500 to 1750.&#8221;<br />
Week 10: &#8220;Earth surface temperatures from 1750 to 1850.&#8221;<br />
Week 11: &#8220;Earth surface temperatures from 1850 to 1979.&#8221;<br />
Week 12: &#8220;Comparison of earth surface temperatures measured by satellite and at ground stations 1979-date.&#8221;  </p>
<p>End of term.  </p>
<p>That should give them a good grounding and take them up to Christmas.  When they return they can learn both side of the argument about how those various figures can be interpreted, that&#8217;s half a term.  Then they can learn about sunspots and oceanic oscillations, end of term 2.  </p>
<p>In the final term they can be told that some people think a gas comprising 4 parts in every 10,000 of the atmosphere determines how the climate will behave.  That is one week; the second week they are sent home because they are still laughing.  Fill the rest of the term how you will, I suggest cricket lessons.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[R.E.,

Mutually exclusive?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R.E.,</p>
<p>Mutually exclusive?</p>
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		<title>By: Retired Engineer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Retired Engineer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a diehard Capitalist, I cannot agree that Russia is going anywhere near that direction. A dictatorship of the friends of Vladimir, perhaps.

Capitalism is this country is not in great shape. It has too many uncertainties. Far easier to promise security. A giant operations manual, with a Procedure for Everything. The governator had the sense to take a small step back from that.

What did Franklin say about security and freedom?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a diehard Capitalist, I cannot agree that Russia is going anywhere near that direction. A dictatorship of the friends of Vladimir, perhaps.</p>
<p>Capitalism is this country is not in great shape. It has too many uncertainties. Far easier to promise security. A giant operations manual, with a Procedure for Everything. The governator had the sense to take a small step back from that.</p>
<p>What did Franklin say about security and freedom?</p>
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		<title>By: Przemysław Pawełczyk (P2O2)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Przemysław Pawełczyk (P2O2)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s only a matter of time. Welcome in the United Socialist States of America. The vetoed bill is a tip of the iceberg of American Socialists agenda. USA turning RED and Russia turning WHITE! Now I have understood why some Americans still see in Russia an enemy. Once Uncle Sam was against communism, now Red Uncle Sam is against capitalistic Russia. Splendid! :) :) :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only a matter of time. Welcome in the United Socialist States of America. The vetoed bill is a tip of the iceberg of American Socialists agenda. USA turning RED and Russia turning WHITE! Now I have understood why some Americans still see in Russia an enemy. Once Uncle Sam was against communism, now Red Uncle Sam is against capitalistic Russia. Splendid! :) :) :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McMillan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike McMillan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THE book on Economics is

Basic Economics: A Citizen&#039;s Guide to the Economy
by Thomas Sowell

We&#039;d be graduating a brighter bunch of kids if it were in the curiculum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE book on Economics is</p>
<p>Basic Economics: A Citizen&#8217;s Guide to the Economy<br />
by Thomas Sowell</p>
<p>We&#8217;d be graduating a brighter bunch of kids if it were in the curiculum.</p>
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