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	<title>Comments on: Hey kids! Be a &#8220;Climate Cop&#8221; &#8211; rat on your family, friends, and classmates</title>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/27/hey-kids-be-a-climate-cop-rat-on-your-family-friends-and-classmates/#comment-61015</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Klimate Kristalnacht is a most definate maybe.  Here&#039;s the difference though - I&#039;ll shoot whatever pricks are marching around breaking shtuff...I don&#039;t care if the little bastards are someone&#039;s precious little nazi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klimate Kristalnacht is a most definate maybe.  Here&#8217;s the difference though &#8211; I&#8217;ll shoot whatever pricks are marching around breaking shtuff&#8230;I don&#8217;t care if the little bastards are someone&#8217;s precious little nazi.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone thinks of a way to conserve energy which has a fun slant for kids and suddenly it&#039;s a communist conspiracy being compared to the Hitler Youth.  Kids love the cops and robbers dynamic.  My under 11&#039;s soccer team&#039;s colours were also red, white and black.  Way to suck the life out of an innocent child&#039;s activity.  You&#039;re reading way too much into this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone thinks of a way to conserve energy which has a fun slant for kids and suddenly it&#8217;s a communist conspiracy being compared to the Hitler Youth.  Kids love the cops and robbers dynamic.  My under 11&#8242;s soccer team&#8217;s colours were also red, white and black.  Way to suck the life out of an innocent child&#8217;s activity.  You&#8217;re reading way too much into this.</p>
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		<title>By: Caveman</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/27/hey-kids-be-a-climate-cop-rat-on-your-family-friends-and-classmates/#comment-28869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caveman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what`s electricity?

i been in the stone age for years, 
guess that makes me a star citizen 

now only if there was a county worthy of having me
sure isnt one on this planet
all the leaders have screwed them all up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what`s electricity?</p>
<p>i been in the stone age for years,<br />
guess that makes me a star citizen </p>
<p>now only if there was a county worthy of having me<br />
sure isnt one on this planet<br />
all the leaders have screwed them all up</p>
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		<title>By: hyonmin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hyonmin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We haven&#039;t a clue and our actions show it.
http://www.forbes.com/opinions/forbes/2008/0811/094.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We haven&#8217;t a clue and our actions show it.<br />
<a href="http://www.forbes.com/opinions/forbes/2008/0811/094.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/opinions/forbes/2008/0811/094.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gene, one of those very same people is Maurice Strong, one of the higher-ups in the IPCC. He&#039;s infamous for quotes such as this:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialised civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

And here he is now in a position to actually set his plan in motion. Imagine that. But I&#039;d be willing to wager he would be one of the select few to still be allowed to maintain an industrial lifestyle after the rest of us are forced back into hunter/gatherer subsistence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene, one of those very same people is Maurice Strong, one of the higher-ups in the IPCC. He&#8217;s infamous for quotes such as this:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialised civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>And here he is now in a position to actually set his plan in motion. Imagine that. But I&#8217;d be willing to wager he would be one of the select few to still be allowed to maintain an industrial lifestyle after the rest of us are forced back into hunter/gatherer subsistence.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene L</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Intriguing (and yet distrurbing) development. I have to admit it would be nice if my 12- and 16-year olds would DO some of these very things. I think they are actually the worst offenders in my home, standing in front of the refrigerator to open and close it a few times to see what&#039;s in it, to reach in for a cold drink that they then put back in, only to be back a few minutes later for another sip. It took a while, but I did finally get them to stop taking 30 minute showers. Although, at the present, I think I&#039;m the only one who takes water conserving showers as a matter of routine... 

The chairman of nPower should be asked to explain himself (herself?). I wonder if the company has entered an &quot;alliance&quot; with an environmental group that is pushing this? Being a US citizen, I&#039;m afraid I do not know if the nPower (as a UK entity) is a public firm with stockholders and an oversight board, nor the extent to which there is a regulatory oversight system, any of which might be &quot;asked&quot; about this program. Or if stockholders, approached with a petition (filed by a stockholder) at the annual meeting to raise attention to the perceived problem. These latter techniques are employed as routine methods by enviro activists and social rights activists in the US. They should be considered as a means to provide a &quot;wake up call&quot; to nPower&#039;s executive management

One question that might be posed to regulators, management and owners on the &quot;educational value&quot; provided: How do the &quot;climate cops&quot; know that the adults of any &quot;case&quot; don&#039;t offset their emissions? Goodness, even Al Gore does that! And if Big Al does it, it must be okay, right? Does that mean the Klimate Kops are authorized to check my finances? 

This also rather reminds me of the attempt by the animal rights group PETA to get people to not drink milk a few years ago. The campign was set as a parody of a well-known US ad campaign. In PETA&#039;s case the slogan was &quot;Got Beer?&quot; As I recall, they had radio and TV spots prepared, bottle and can openers and other labeled merchandise (propoganda) bought, paid for and delivered. Then they found they had just pissed off the anti-drunk driving people. Needless to say, the whole campaign ended up in a dumpster. 

As for the potential for violence mentioned by more than a few commenters, we already have these situations in the United States, with extremist groups such as the Animal/Environmental Liberation Fronts burning and defacing what they do not like, spiking trees so that they cannot be harvested (even if the land and trees are privately-owned, I believe), and destroying fields nearly ready for harvest that are believed to contain GMO crops. Then there are groups like &quot;Earth First!&quot;, known for its perception that humankind is but a parasitic plague upon the earth, parasites that they wish to see eliminated. Anyone here ever read the Tom Clancy novel &quot;Rainbow Six&quot;? Sets a fictional scenario (we hope) for how far some of these groups might go to depopulate the Earth in their Druidic quest of worshiping, protecting and &quot;restoring&quot; Gaia, Mother Earth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intriguing (and yet distrurbing) development. I have to admit it would be nice if my 12- and 16-year olds would DO some of these very things. I think they are actually the worst offenders in my home, standing in front of the refrigerator to open and close it a few times to see what&#8217;s in it, to reach in for a cold drink that they then put back in, only to be back a few minutes later for another sip. It took a while, but I did finally get them to stop taking 30 minute showers. Although, at the present, I think I&#8217;m the only one who takes water conserving showers as a matter of routine&#8230; </p>
<p>The chairman of nPower should be asked to explain himself (herself?). I wonder if the company has entered an &#8220;alliance&#8221; with an environmental group that is pushing this? Being a US citizen, I&#8217;m afraid I do not know if the nPower (as a UK entity) is a public firm with stockholders and an oversight board, nor the extent to which there is a regulatory oversight system, any of which might be &#8220;asked&#8221; about this program. Or if stockholders, approached with a petition (filed by a stockholder) at the annual meeting to raise attention to the perceived problem. These latter techniques are employed as routine methods by enviro activists and social rights activists in the US. They should be considered as a means to provide a &#8220;wake up call&#8221; to nPower&#8217;s executive management</p>
<p>One question that might be posed to regulators, management and owners on the &#8220;educational value&#8221; provided: How do the &#8220;climate cops&#8221; know that the adults of any &#8220;case&#8221; don&#8217;t offset their emissions? Goodness, even Al Gore does that! And if Big Al does it, it must be okay, right? Does that mean the Klimate Kops are authorized to check my finances? </p>
<p>This also rather reminds me of the attempt by the animal rights group PETA to get people to not drink milk a few years ago. The campign was set as a parody of a well-known US ad campaign. In PETA&#8217;s case the slogan was &#8220;Got Beer?&#8221; As I recall, they had radio and TV spots prepared, bottle and can openers and other labeled merchandise (propoganda) bought, paid for and delivered. Then they found they had just pissed off the anti-drunk driving people. Needless to say, the whole campaign ended up in a dumpster. </p>
<p>As for the potential for violence mentioned by more than a few commenters, we already have these situations in the United States, with extremist groups such as the Animal/Environmental Liberation Fronts burning and defacing what they do not like, spiking trees so that they cannot be harvested (even if the land and trees are privately-owned, I believe), and destroying fields nearly ready for harvest that are believed to contain GMO crops. Then there are groups like &#8220;Earth First!&#8221;, known for its perception that humankind is but a parasitic plague upon the earth, parasites that they wish to see eliminated. Anyone here ever read the Tom Clancy novel &#8220;Rainbow Six&#8221;? Sets a fictional scenario (we hope) for how far some of these groups might go to depopulate the Earth in their Druidic quest of worshiping, protecting and &#8220;restoring&#8221; Gaia, Mother Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard North</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard North]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The (British) Advertising Standards Authority rejected our complaint.  This, it said,  &quot;… seems to be just an educational way to engage children in this topical issue.&quot;  The odd thing is, we hadn&#039;t actually made a complaint – we wrote asking them for help in framing a complaint.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/07/that-complaint.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The (British) Advertising Standards Authority rejected our complaint.  This, it said,  &#8220;… seems to be just an educational way to engage children in this topical issue.&#8221;  The odd thing is, we hadn&#8217;t actually made a complaint – we wrote asking them for help in framing a complaint.  See <a href="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/07/that-complaint.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;Is it not the satellite data that shows the cooling since 1998? and only the surface stations that almost show continued warming? :-)&lt;/cite&gt;

Yes. And not even all of the surface data. HadCRUT shows some cooling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Is it not the satellite data that shows the cooling since 1998? and only the surface stations that almost show continued warming? :-)</cite></p>
<p>Yes. And not even all of the surface data. HadCRUT shows some cooling.</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m Surprised It Took This Long &#124; Pirates! Man Your Women!</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/27/hey-kids-be-a-climate-cop-rat-on-your-family-friends-and-classmates/#comment-28284</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I&#8217;m Surprised It Took This Long &#124; Pirates! Man Your Women!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Don&#8217;t let the Climate Cops get in your kids heads.  Can I be the only one more than a little disturbed by the latest campaign to be fronted by energy company npower? [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Don&#8217;t let the Climate Cops get in your kids heads.  Can I be the only one more than a little disturbed by the latest campaign to be fronted by energy company npower? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mplimasol</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mplimasol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[is it just me, or does this remind anyone of the sort of comics, advertisements, and the likes that are geared at young children by PETA?

does anyone remember the comic book entitled, &quot;you mommy kills animals&quot;?

http://www.theanimaladvocate.org/040726_mommykills.jpg

just another item to add to the list of things that will poison the minds of our children... *sigh*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it just me, or does this remind anyone of the sort of comics, advertisements, and the likes that are geared at young children by PETA?</p>
<p>does anyone remember the comic book entitled, &#8220;you mommy kills animals&#8221;?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theanimaladvocate.org/040726_mommykills.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.theanimaladvocate.org/040726_mommykills.jpg</a></p>
<p>just another item to add to the list of things that will poison the minds of our children&#8230; *sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: Brits Go All 1984 on us - Behind R4NT</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brits Go All 1984 on us - Behind R4NT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] British Utility nPower sponsors the &#8220;Climate Cops&#8221; a cartoon website aimed at children encouraging them to ensure that &#8220;climate crimes&#8221; such as using the dryer, putting hot food in the fridge and leaving the TV on do not go unpunished. I first read about this on a European blog, followed up here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] British Utility nPower sponsors the &#8220;Climate Cops&#8221; a cartoon website aimed at children encouraging them to ensure that &#8220;climate crimes&#8221; such as using the dryer, putting hot food in the fridge and leaving the TV on do not go unpunished. I first read about this on a European blog, followed up here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[counters:
&quot;In the real world, governments aren’t setting up Ministries of ClimateTruth&quot;

In New Zealand, they have a Minister for Climate Change.

Coming soon to a government near you...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>counters:<br />
&#8220;In the real world, governments aren’t setting up Ministries of ClimateTruth&#8221;</p>
<p>In New Zealand, they have a Minister for Climate Change.</p>
<p>Coming soon to a government near you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[counters:
&quot;I use Ubuntu for the vast majority of my work at home.&quot;

At last, something we agree 100% on ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>counters:<br />
&#8220;I use Ubuntu for the vast majority of my work at home.&#8221;</p>
<p>At last, something we agree 100% on ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dennis Hopkins:
&quot;We had Simon Singh give a whole school assembly last December on the Big Bang. It was excellent.
However, at the end he did make a few comments about how you should not believe anything from people who doubt AGW. It is definitely proven.&quot;

I&#039;m a bit surprised at Simon Singh.

However, beliefs are infinitely more powerful than science, so perhaps we should cut him some slack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis Hopkins:<br />
&#8220;We had Simon Singh give a whole school assembly last December on the Big Bang. It was excellent.<br />
However, at the end he did make a few comments about how you should not believe anything from people who doubt AGW. It is definitely proven.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit surprised at Simon Singh.</p>
<p>However, beliefs are infinitely more powerful than science, so perhaps we should cut him some slack.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[counters:
&quot;Sorry, but this is ridiculous. This is a stupid advertising campaign by an energy company. It’s amazing that anyone is reading more into that.&quot;

You haven&#039;t had first-hand experience of being bombarded by their propaganda, ...er.. &#039;advertising campaigns&#039; like we have in the UK.
Especially when said company have upped their prices exorbitantly so I now have the dubious pleasure of forking out over 1000 GBP for the privelege of heating my small house for about two months of the year - mornings and evenings only. And I can&#039;t get a much better deal from other companies.
Bunch of hypocrites, accusing people like me of &#039;climate crimes&#039; whilst simultaneously cleaning out my wallet!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>counters:<br />
&#8220;Sorry, but this is ridiculous. This is a stupid advertising campaign by an energy company. It’s amazing that anyone is reading more into that.&#8221;</p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t had first-hand experience of being bombarded by their propaganda, &#8230;er.. &#8216;advertising campaigns&#8217; like we have in the UK.<br />
Especially when said company have upped their prices exorbitantly so I now have the dubious pleasure of forking out over 1000 GBP for the privelege of heating my small house for about two months of the year &#8211; mornings and evenings only. And I can&#8217;t get a much better deal from other companies.<br />
Bunch of hypocrites, accusing people like me of &#8216;climate crimes&#8217; whilst simultaneously cleaning out my wallet!</p>
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