Comments on: Sidebar to Spencer testimony today – Barbara Boxer tosses an insult, implies Limbaugh is involved in Spencer’s testimony

By: Inauguration day and climate change politics « An Honest Climate Debate

Inauguration day and climate change politics « An Honest Climate Debate — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:58:25 +0000

[...] topics and use them as the focal point for forming opinions. For example, as reported here, The last time Dr. Roy Spencer testified before Congress, committee chair Barbara Boxer appeared more interested in discussing Rush Limbaugh than she did [...]

By: Inaguration day and climate change politics « Watts Up With That?

Inaguration day and climate change politics « Watts Up With That? — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:17:36 +0000

By: Oldjim

Oldjim — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:08:10 +0000

Apologies – this really isn’t relevant to this topc but I was half listening to the Obama speech in Berlin and the last few sentences caught my attention
Quote:- The terrorists of September 11th plotted in Hamburg and trained in Kandahar and Karachi before killing thousands from all over the globe on American soil.
As we speak, cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic, and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/text-obama-speech-berlin/story.aspx?guid={E4036BB1-ABD7-471B-BD6D-1E26F6878BB1}&dist=msr_1

By: randomengineer

randomengineer — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:27:25 +0000

“I think this weekend I may have to put a fire in the wood stove!”

Jutht be careful where you pith letht you inadvertantly put the fire out.

By: Michael Jennings

Michael Jennings — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:53:10 +0000

[even though this was a positive, we are done talking about this~Charles the moderator]

By: SteveSadlov

SteveSadlov — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:52:28 +0000

Pamela – this AM in coastal Nor Cal it was back down in the upper 40s. That usually does not happen until at least mid August. I am on the verge of calling onset of climatic autumn here. Of course it will be a retrospective call. But I should know within a couple weeks whether or not climatic autumn started on the 20th of July (!).

By: Pamela Gray

Pamela Gray — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:49:14 +0000

Last year I read Twain’s biography (the newer one and I have forgotten the author’s name). Such a man. Reminds me of Ben Franklin in the pithiness of their one-liners.

And talk about being pithy! I got rather pithy at the afore mentioned female bashing!

I could say more about pithing but I will leave it at that.

Meanwhile, it is still COLD! I think this weekend I may have to put a fire in the wood stove!

By: denny

denny — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:46:26 +0000

“I have long held the belief that the quality of political debate in the House of Commons and in Select Committees in the UK is of a standard below that we might reasonably expect – would our friends in the US concur that this is case there also?”

“Let’s suppose that I am a member of Congress. Let us further suppose that I am
a scoundrel……Wait I repeat Myself” Mark Twain

By: BarryW

BarryW — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:09:37 +0000

Retired Engineer

Really? Could have fooled me. Looks like that three-headed dinosaur is alive and well.

Didn’t say it was dead, there are always fools that believe what they want to believe regardless of reality. The major oligarchies aren’t presently using it as their justification, and it has been replaced by eco-facism as the fashionable ism with the intelligentsia. It could, of course, rear back up anytime.

By: randomengineer

randomengineer — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:59:48 +0000

“She’s right to cast aspersions on anyone associated with him because he’s an absolute fraud and a horrible person on all levels.”

I don’t have an opinion of Mr. Limbaugh, not being a listener, but when I hear claims such as this — a mixture of classless/clueless mendaciousness and vitriolic partisan politics — it sure doesn’t make me want to listen to anything you or anyone like you may have to say. You already said everything I’ll ever need to hear. Yes, you impressed me, although you may not care to hear precisely what my impression is.

At this link is a similar thought to mine —

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/22/channel4.ofcom

Essentially Mr. Mykura is saying that it’s the nastiness of the attack that makes for many a skeptic where there may not have been one before, and to a large degree he’s right. Mr. Mykura is the guy who runs Channel 4 in the UK. He seems a great deal smarter than Senator Boxer; at least he’s exhibited an understanding of how people react to attacks.

By: orangehairboy

orangehairboy — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:31:29 +0000

Maybe she’s worried that this climatologist has been too high from hanging out with Rush and

[snip - no ad hom attacks on character based on speculation]

Plus, he’s not funny.

By: Smokey

Smokey — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:49:35 +0000

Spencer is too much of a gentleman, but wouldn’t it have been fun if he’d asked Boxer, “Senator, do you believe the AMO, or the PDO, has more influence on the climate?”

By: jeez

jeez — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:09 +0000

It may be a small comfort, but it was not just women who were offended by those comments.

By: springwaterkate

springwaterkate — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:25:43 +0000

I too am appalled at Boxer’s treatment of Spencer. It’s not only indefensible, but unethical given her position as the chairman of the committee.

But what I find nearly equally offensive are the sexist, woman-hating comments of some fellow wattsupwiththat posters. You might consider that there are probably many more female readers than you know who are anti-AGW and supportive of good quality science over politics.

Oh well, I visited Jack’s climateclinic website once and was entirely unimpressed. Now I have a good reason never to visit again.

REPLY: I agree and Jack has been chastised for his remarks. – Anthony

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:59:59 +0000

Boxer and other Leftist dolts/boors of her ilk have quite a gift for insulting my intelligence and offending me. Her treatment of Dr. Spencer was reprehensible.

By: SteveSadlov

SteveSadlov — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:04:51 +0000

There is a book, from the 1980s, but still very relevant today, called “The Clustering of America.” The primary audience is marketeers, but there are many sociological insights in that book.

If one were to deconstruct how someone like Boxer can be elected Senator, in terms of the market segments mentioned in that book, two of them, “Money, Brains and Power” and “Urban Gold Coasts” figure prominently. More traditional bourgeois segments such as rural folk, and even some urban working people, are not her key battleground groups.

This says a lot, none of it good, about those who run our corporations, invest the most money, and purport to know better than the salt of the Earth.

By: philw1776

philw1776 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:34:01 +0000

Interesting video. Any details on the Colorado meeting with Climatologists Dr Spencer mentioned?

By: Paul H Clark

Paul H Clark — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:12:56 +0000

Joe S (10:35:02)

Joe S,

Thank you again.

I had not perhaps focussed as much on this point as I might have.

It is certainly not beyond the bounds of man that there are machinations in the system beyond our ken.

By: Joe S

Joe S — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:35:02 +0000

Paul H Clark,

To me the most telling part of the YouTube video begins at the 5:00 minute thru the 6:00 minute mark where Dr. Spencer relates a story he had never told before which essentially says (my words) that from the beginning, science was shaped for an agenda. Watch that part if you have time.

By: David L. Hagen

David L. Hagen — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:30:19 +0000

cc of email to Senator Boxer at
https://boxer.senate.gov/contact/email/policy.cfm
———————–
Petition: Apologize to Dr. Spencer

Senator Boxer
I respectfully submit that your caustic comment against Dr. Roy Spencer seriously demeans your office. (See text below).

You unjustly besmirched Dr. Spencer’s character when he is a courageous scientist of very high integrity. His effort to give scientific evidence redressing the political correctness of global warming is to be commended.

I petition you to redress this grievance by publicly apologizing to Dr. Spencer for your demeaning statement.

David L. Hagen, PhD

cc Dr. Spencer, Anthony Watt

“BOXER: . . .And lastly, I guess is a certain congratulations, Rush Limbaugh referred to you as the official climatologist of the Rush Limbaugh Excellence in Broadcasting Network.

SPENCER: Yeah, that’s tongue-in-cheek reference.

BOXER: Right. But I just want to point that out for people to understand. I just want to make sure everybody knows what’s really happening.”