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	<title>Comments on: Nutty Story of the Day #2: whitewashing the ocean</title>
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		<title>By: The Small &#8216;e&#8217; environmentalist &#171; AGW Doubter</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/21/nutty-story-of-the-day-2-whitewashing-the-ocean/#comment-31144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Small &#8216;e&#8217; environmentalist &#171; AGW Doubter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] change scares, this is one of the latest. Never mind that the feasibility study on which this hare-brained scheme is based was funded by Shell (as in the Big Oil company Royal Dutch/Shell Group). I find it rather [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] change scares, this is one of the latest. Never mind that the feasibility study on which this hare-brained scheme is based was funded by Shell (as in the Big Oil company Royal Dutch/Shell Group). I find it rather [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Small &#8216;e&#8217; Environmentalist &#171; littleblackduck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Small &#8216;e&#8217; Environmentalist &#171; littleblackduck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] change scares, this is one of the latest. Never mind that the feasibility study on which this hare-brained scheme is based was funded by Shell (as in the Big Oil company Royal Dutch/Shell Group). I find it rather [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] change scares, this is one of the latest. Never mind that the feasibility study on which this hare-brained scheme is based was funded by Shell (as in the Big Oil company Royal Dutch/Shell Group). I find it rather [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/21/nutty-story-of-the-day-2-whitewashing-the-ocean/#comment-27334</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I think that by fabricating a lot of solar water pumps, puttting them in areas in the desserts of the world, where it used to be wet, and replanting these forests you might actually absorb that much CO2. Think of the entire Sahara becoming another forest, or Lebanon, or even the Middle East.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Isn&#039;t that altering the ecosystems? Dry places aren&#039;t &quot;bad&quot; by default. There are plants and animals there that enjoy the dryness, that depend on it. You&#039;re just proposing another silly idea like the posted story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think that by fabricating a lot of solar water pumps, puttting them in areas in the desserts of the world, where it used to be wet, and replanting these forests you might actually absorb that much CO2. Think of the entire Sahara becoming another forest, or Lebanon, or even the Middle East.</p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that altering the ecosystems? Dry places aren&#8217;t &#8220;bad&#8221; by default. There are plants and animals there that enjoy the dryness, that depend on it. You&#8217;re just proposing another silly idea like the posted story.</p>
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		<title>By: lidia.lopinto</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/21/nutty-story-of-the-day-2-whitewashing-the-ocean/#comment-27324</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lidia.lopinto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there isn&#039;t enough oil or coal right now to grind up part of Australia, heat up the rocks into lime and dumping that into the ocean.  And there is a nice ecosystem there, like snakes and kwalas, and maybe some Dingos.  

I think maybe we should leave that ecosystem alone and not think about this anymore.  For sure some politician will decide maybe it is worth nuking Australia just to dump the heated rocks into the ocean! 

Rather, maybe it would be better if we ground up New Jersey and dump it in the ocean. The oil and chemical companies have made such a mess of part of Jersey, with Thoms River and all, it is probably bette to dump it.

I think humans have been devastating our eco systems and forests since the time of the Romans. They devasted forests to make wooden ships.  Lebanese Cedars are practically gone, and they find boats entumbed in Egypt.

I think that by fabricating a lot of solar water pumps, puttting them in areas in the desserts of the world, where it used to be wet, and replanting these forests you might actually absorb that much CO2.  Think of the entire Sahara becoming another forest, or Lebanon, or even the Middle East.

And, when water, humity and trees return to the area, guess what, probably no more fighting over resources. 

Maybe a better idea then grinding up Autralia, or nuking it or destroying Nj.

Anyone]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there isn&#8217;t enough oil or coal right now to grind up part of Australia, heat up the rocks into lime and dumping that into the ocean.  And there is a nice ecosystem there, like snakes and kwalas, and maybe some Dingos.  </p>
<p>I think maybe we should leave that ecosystem alone and not think about this anymore.  For sure some politician will decide maybe it is worth nuking Australia just to dump the heated rocks into the ocean! </p>
<p>Rather, maybe it would be better if we ground up New Jersey and dump it in the ocean. The oil and chemical companies have made such a mess of part of Jersey, with Thoms River and all, it is probably bette to dump it.</p>
<p>I think humans have been devastating our eco systems and forests since the time of the Romans. They devasted forests to make wooden ships.  Lebanese Cedars are practically gone, and they find boats entumbed in Egypt.</p>
<p>I think that by fabricating a lot of solar water pumps, puttting them in areas in the desserts of the world, where it used to be wet, and replanting these forests you might actually absorb that much CO2.  Think of the entire Sahara becoming another forest, or Lebanon, or even the Middle East.</p>
<p>And, when water, humity and trees return to the area, guess what, probably no more fighting over resources. </p>
<p>Maybe a better idea then grinding up Autralia, or nuking it or destroying Nj.</p>
<p>Anyone</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before doing this, one would want some evidence that in the past, reducing CO2 has produced cooling.  Otherwise we will just be engaging in enormous pollution of the oceans in a way that will have no effect on temperature.

However, there is no evidence like this.  Even if you believe that rising CO2 has produced warming, there is no evidence that cooling has resulted from falling CO2.  It is a quite different question and needs independent proof.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before doing this, one would want some evidence that in the past, reducing CO2 has produced cooling.  Otherwise we will just be engaging in enormous pollution of the oceans in a way that will have no effect on temperature.</p>
<p>However, there is no evidence like this.  Even if you believe that rising CO2 has produced warming, there is no evidence that cooling has resulted from falling CO2.  It is a quite different question and needs independent proof.</p>
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		<title>By: macumazahn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[macumazahn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The military definition of &quot;folly&quot; is &quot;redoubling your effort when you&#039;ve lost sight of your objective&quot;. For some, it seems, the objective remains forever elusive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The military definition of &#8220;folly&#8221; is &#8220;redoubling your effort when you&#8217;ve lost sight of your objective&#8221;. For some, it seems, the objective remains forever elusive.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Tisdale</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Tisdale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On lime in the oceans from Gristmill :
&quot;If this pans out, this is a huge idea -- and potentially a reprieve from climate disaster:&quot;
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/7/20/22140/3847

And they&#039;ve deleted my old password and won&#039;t issue me a new one, so I can&#039;t comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On lime in the oceans from Gristmill :<br />
&#8220;If this pans out, this is a huge idea &#8212; and potentially a reprieve from climate disaster:&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/7/20/22140/3847" rel="nofollow">http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/7/20/22140/3847</a></p>
<p>And they&#8217;ve deleted my old password and won&#8217;t issue me a new one, so I can&#8217;t comment.</p>
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		<title>By: RJ Hendrickson</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/21/nutty-story-of-the-day-2-whitewashing-the-ocean/#comment-27052</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RJ Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What?  Star Trek isn&#039;t real?  You risk being phasered into oblivion.  A couple of good lime-photon torpedoes would take care of this ocean acidification problem.  If the fish die, well, we&#039;ll just send the Enterprise back into time to retrieve them.    I think somebody has been slipping lime into my drinks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?  Star Trek isn&#8217;t real?  You risk being phasered into oblivion.  A couple of good lime-photon torpedoes would take care of this ocean acidification problem.  If the fish die, well, we&#8217;ll just send the Enterprise back into time to retrieve them.    I think somebody has been slipping lime into my drinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bec Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bec Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is right up there with simulating a huge volcanic blast.........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is right up there with simulating a huge volcanic blast&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P. T. Barnum would have loved this.

I happen to think it&#039;s brilliant:

Crush limerock
Heat in gas-fired kiln (making CO2)
Drive off CO2 from limerock
Add to ocean to absorb some of the CO2 released in production.
Charge the rubes an arm and a leg for doing it.
Repeat.

It&#039;s an economic perpetual motion machine.
Brilliant.
i only wish I&#039;d thought of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P. T. Barnum would have loved this.</p>
<p>I happen to think it&#8217;s brilliant:</p>
<p>Crush limerock<br />
Heat in gas-fired kiln (making CO2)<br />
Drive off CO2 from limerock<br />
Add to ocean to absorb some of the CO2 released in production.<br />
Charge the rubes an arm and a leg for doing it.<br />
Repeat.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an economic perpetual motion machine.<br />
Brilliant.<br />
i only wish I&#8217;d thought of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip_B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip_B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why stop at painting Al Gore white? You can further increase your personal albedo by by wearing reflective headgear. A tinfoil hat will help cool the planet AND stop aliens messing with your brain.

I see a business opportunity here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why stop at painting Al Gore white? You can further increase your personal albedo by by wearing reflective headgear. A tinfoil hat will help cool the planet AND stop aliens messing with your brain.</p>
<p>I see a business opportunity here.</p>
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		<title>By: tty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[leebert:

1. Every cubic meter of seawater naturally contains about 6 pounds of sulphate ions. Nothing we can do is likely to change that significantly.

2. Nitrates stimulates growth of the symbiotic algae in corals, i e the opposite of bleaching.

3. Seawater is alkaline, not acid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leebert:</p>
<p>1. Every cubic meter of seawater naturally contains about 6 pounds of sulphate ions. Nothing we can do is likely to change that significantly.</p>
<p>2. Nitrates stimulates growth of the symbiotic algae in corals, i e the opposite of bleaching.</p>
<p>3. Seawater is alkaline, not acid.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Sheldon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Sheldon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Is this the time to say: ” Goodbye and thanks for the fish”?&quot;

ITYM &quot;...all the fish.&quot;

But I&#039;m guessing there won&#039;t be any edible fish left after this experiment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is this the time to say: ” Goodbye and thanks for the fish”?&#8221;</p>
<p>ITYM &#8220;&#8230;all the fish.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m guessing there won&#8217;t be any edible fish left after this experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveSadlov</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveSadlov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greenpeace will be all over this. Sometimes, I agree with them, such as would be the case here. In fact, in this case, maybe they need deck guns?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenpeace will be all over this. Sometimes, I agree with them, such as would be the case here. In fact, in this case, maybe they need deck guns?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkW</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are on topic posts in this thread?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are on topic posts in this thread?</p>
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