Comments on: How not to measure temperature, part 67 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/ The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change Tue, 29 May 2012 16:26:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Gary Gulrud http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25368 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:32:34 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25368 Wow, Anthony’s volunteers sure possess an Indy spirit!

]]> By: Andrew http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25288 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:02:50 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25288 Here are some more pictures of the same:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/74/195151360_7a23625189.jpg?v=0

http://images.lesliekhelm.multiply.com/image/5/photos/23/600×600/11.JPG/DSCF0035.JPG?et=lzRym9B8kaTemq3ZtYxr%2BA&nmid=2673592

And about the Power Plant:

http://www.usbr.gov/power/data/sites/shoshone/shoshone.html

REPLY: Thanks, I’ve added these to the database. – Anthony

]]> By: Mike C http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25264 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:27:34 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25264 Pierre Gosselin (11:10:38 ) :

“If there was a contest called “Who can find the most poorly sited station” Russ would be clearly in the lead.”

“REPLY: Oh, I don’t know, check out the latest entry on the main page – Anthony”

I doubt that you will find one worse than Lewiston, Maine… in a UHI, violates every NWS reg (including a barbecue and an air conditioner) AND the rain gage is under a tree.

]]> By: Keith http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25235 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:40:53 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25235 I’ve personally had problems with Google Earth for finding good arial views of local temperature stations. I’ve started using MapQuest as they will accept lat/long coordinates. But the listing from the NOAA MMS site puts the Buffalo Bill Dam site in the middle of the lake.

Use aerial view and view level 14.

]]> By: Smokey http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25228 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:16:40 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25228 Yes, the kayak guy, who covered all the bases: “Failure would equal success.”

For some reason that statement reminded me of my favorite quotable politician, Dan Quayle: “We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur.”

O/T, but fun: clicky

]]> By: James S http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25226 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:15:17 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25226 This really must be the worst “official” climate station out there.

I wonder how dark it is at night as well – I wouldn’t be too surprised to find out that this is a “rural” station!

]]> By: tty http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25209 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:42:28 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25209 That kayak guy must be seriously nuts. He has got at most about 6 weeks to paddle 3,000 km from to the Pole and back, if he is lucky. Even if he could find polynyas all the way (which he won’t) he will still have to factor in a lot of detours. In practice he will have to pull that kayak across a lot of ice, including pressure ridges. But of course that support boat may be an ice-breaker.
I also tend to doubt the extent his arctic experience. He is going to “outpace” polar bears with a kayak? Somehow I have a feeling he has never seen a running polar bear reasonably close-up. But avoiding walruses should be very simple. Since they live on molluscs they pry loose from the bottom they don’t occur in deep ocean, in contrast to other seals.

]]> By: Pierre Gosselin http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25195 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:10:38 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25195 If there was a contest called “Who can find the most poorly sited station” Russ would be clearly in the lead.

REPLY: Oh, I don’t know, check out the latest entry on the main page – Anthony

]]> By: M White http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25193 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:00:56 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25193 Off topic. Just heard about this on the radio. ‘Explorer bids to kayak to ‘melting’ North Pole.’ Leaves from Norway’s Svalbard islands on August 29, heading north across the Arctic Ocean to the North Pole, kayaking up cracks in the ice.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080715/oddities/arctic_britain_environment_canoe

He said ‘Failure would equals success’

]]> By: Perry http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25192 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:59:47 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25192 “The money for this erection was raised by pubic subscription.” Delightful architecture though. http://www.bbdvc.org/powerplant.htm

Regards,

Perry

]]> By: JP http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25191 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:57:49 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25191 COOP 4871175 teleconnects very well with Alice Springs Austrailia. Using that info, we can adjust the temperatures any way we see fit… I’m really getting a handle on this climate science stuff. As a matter of fact, I’m thinking of opening up my own online climate science school. PHDs awarded in 2 months!

]]> By: Leon Brozyna http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25188 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:39:07 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25188 Mystery solved — sort of.

I found and went to the USHCN web site. When checking for daily data I ended up with a plot running from {default} 1948 to 2005.

http://cdiac.ornl.gov/cgi-bin/broker?id=481175&_PROGRAM=prog.gplot_meanclim_yr.sas&_SERVICE=default&param=TAVE&minyear=1948&maxyear=2005

But, when I checked for monthly data, I found the plot shown above. So, how could there be data on a monthly basis from before 1948, when no data is shown for before that date on a daily basis?

]]> By: Mike K http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25182 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:06:53 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25182 I’ll bet this is a “rural” station based on night satellite images, so it must be “high quality.”

Clark said: Yet more evidence that the surface data is unusable.

That’s not true. Hansen knows how to adjust it without even seeing the site!

]]> By: Ric Werme http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25181 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:06:03 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25181 “on top of a stone wall at the edge of the river all swaddled in mist.”

I’m so glad I wasn’t sipping my Coke when I read that line.

]]> By: Richard deSousa http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/15/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-67/#comment-25180 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:00:55 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1626#comment-25180 Dan Evens…. I think Lucia was being funny in her perverse little way… ;)

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