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	<title>Comments on: Psychiatrists have detected the first case of &#8220;climate change delusion&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: take2la</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-25207</link>
		<dc:creator>take2la</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah this goes right along with &quot;coffee sessation syndrome&quot; &amp; &quot;teenage/parental  rebellion syndrome&quot;. The DSM ( the &#039;bible&quot; psychs use to &quot;diagnose&quot; people) was a magazine sized document in the 1950&#039;s. Today, its a book the size of an unabridged dictionary.

Just because people are afraid of it doesn&#039;t make it a disease.
Just because people offer a cure/treatment doesn&#039;t make it science. 
Or helpful for that matter. 

Psychiatry is just another delivery system for drug companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah this goes right along with &#8220;coffee sessation syndrome&#8221; &amp; &#8220;teenage/parental  rebellion syndrome&#8221;. The DSM ( the &#8216;bible&#8221; psychs use to &#8220;diagnose&#8221; people) was a magazine sized document in the 1950&#8217;s. Today, its a book the size of an unabridged dictionary.</p>
<p>Just because people are afraid of it doesn&#8217;t make it a disease.<br />
Just because people offer a cure/treatment doesn&#8217;t make it science.<br />
Or helpful for that matter. </p>
<p>Psychiatry is just another delivery system for drug companies.</p>
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		<title>By: alexjc38</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24865</link>
		<dc:creator>alexjc38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a parallel could be drawn between the way conditions are named in psychiatry and climate science. Whether it be ADHD or AGW, the minute someone gives a name to a collection of phenomena, it becomes a &quot;thing&quot;. And once it becomes a thing, it becomes wonderfully easy to ascribe to it a cause - and a cure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a parallel could be drawn between the way conditions are named in psychiatry and climate science. Whether it be ADHD or AGW, the minute someone gives a name to a collection of phenomena, it becomes a &#8220;thing&#8221;. And once it becomes a thing, it becomes wonderfully easy to ascribe to it a cause &#8211; and a cure.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24823</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They sold &lt;cite&gt;The Population Bomb&lt;/cite&gt; in my 7th grade lunchroom. Some things never change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They sold <cite>The Population Bomb</cite> in my 7th grade lunchroom. Some things never change.</p>
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		<title>By: John Nicklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Nicklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently saw a bit on TV where school kids were talking about how horrid the future will be. According to what they have heard, major coastal cities will be under hundreds of feet of water while, at the same time, the oceans are going to boil dry. 

Here in Canada, we have David Suzuki (a geneticist turned eco tub-thumper) spreading the gospel of doom.

No wonder people are becoming neurotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently saw a bit on TV where school kids were talking about how horrid the future will be. According to what they have heard, major coastal cities will be under hundreds of feet of water while, at the same time, the oceans are going to boil dry. </p>
<p>Here in Canada, we have David Suzuki (a geneticist turned eco tub-thumper) spreading the gospel of doom.</p>
<p>No wonder people are becoming neurotic.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way the commenters on this blog are treating the individual with a serious mental disorder is pretty reprehensible. the post itself goes to some good lengths to look at the story in context, e.g. China and India&#039;s actions, and so while I disagree with the perspective at least it&#039;s addressing the issue with integrity. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alexlockwood.net/2008/07/12/bush-pollution-delusions-did-he-really-say-that/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The rhetoric and wit is not funny.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way the commenters on this blog are treating the individual with a serious mental disorder is pretty reprehensible. the post itself goes to some good lengths to look at the story in context, e.g. China and India&#8217;s actions, and so while I disagree with the perspective at least it&#8217;s addressing the issue with integrity. <a href="http://www.alexlockwood.net/2008/07/12/bush-pollution-delusions-did-he-really-say-that/" rel="nofollow">The rhetoric and wit is not funny.</a></p>
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		<title>By: alexjc38</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24388</link>
		<dc:creator>alexjc38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re &quot;climate change delusion&quot;, I&#039;m now waiting for some psychiatrist to opine: &quot;The problems occur when a patient&#039;s overheated internal climate reaches a certain threshold, a flipping point.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;climate change delusion&#8221;, I&#8217;m now waiting for some psychiatrist to opine: &#8220;The problems occur when a patient&#8217;s overheated internal climate reaches a certain threshold, a flipping point.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24361</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To go with the literary reference:

I can deal with a Fred Kinnan. Even with a Jim Taggart (but less so). But the Ivy Starnes and Ma Chalmers of this world are a whole different bag of beans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To go with the literary reference:</p>
<p>I can deal with a Fred Kinnan. Even with a Jim Taggart (but less so). But the Ivy Starnes and Ma Chalmers of this world are a whole different bag of beans.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24360</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;These are not stupid people. &lt;/cite&gt;

Not stupid people are as equally able to be stupid as the rest of us. OTOH, they are probably less complaisant at this moment than Gore.

But they Believe, and that is the nut of the problem. If their motive were merely to rule in order to loot us, they have a vested interest in keeping the host alive (sort of). But True Believers unnerve me. These are the sort of dudes that, as Torquemada (allegedly) said of the &quot;town of 10,000&quot;, half heretics, half faithful, &quot;Kill them all. God will know his own.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>These are not stupid people. </cite></p>
<p>Not stupid people are as equally able to be stupid as the rest of us. OTOH, they are probably less complaisant at this moment than Gore.</p>
<p>But they Believe, and that is the nut of the problem. If their motive were merely to rule in order to loot us, they have a vested interest in keeping the host alive (sort of). But True Believers unnerve me. These are the sort of dudes that, as Torquemada (allegedly) said of the &#8220;town of 10,000&#8243;, half heretics, half faithful, &#8220;Kill them all. God will know his own.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24359</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;If Al Gore actually believed &lt;/cite&gt;

He does. He punctiliously protects himself from contrary points of view. In the history biz we call that a &quot;need not to know&quot; basis. This also protects him from legal action. It&#039;s amazing what a man can manage not to know if he doesn&#039;t want to know it.

&lt;cite&gt;in the hoax he is perpetrating, he would be a traitor to the human race by his profligate waste of resources and excessive carbon dioxide emissions, would he not?&lt;/cite&gt;

Not by his lights. He &quot;purchases offsets&quot;. (As the indulgence boyz used to say, &quot;further sins require further expense.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>If Al Gore actually believed </cite></p>
<p>He does. He punctiliously protects himself from contrary points of view. In the history biz we call that a &#8220;need not to know&#8221; basis. This also protects him from legal action. It&#8217;s amazing what a man can manage not to know if he doesn&#8217;t want to know it.</p>
<p><cite>in the hoax he is perpetrating, he would be a traitor to the human race by his profligate waste of resources and excessive carbon dioxide emissions, would he not?</cite></p>
<p>Not by his lights. He &#8220;purchases offsets&#8221;. (As the indulgence boyz used to say, &#8220;further sins require further expense.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24353</link>
		<dc:creator>Smokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least &lt;a href=&quot;http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=FFDECF8B-78B1-48E6-8A84-8E8B35178B93&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some people&lt;/a&gt; know full well that AGW/global catastrophe is a scam.

If Al Gore actually believed in the hoax he is perpetrating, he would be a traitor to the human race by his profligate waste of resources and excessive carbon dioxide emissions, would he not?

And neither the UN/IPCC, nor James Hansen, not Michael Mann, nor Gavin Schmidt, nor the Nobel Committee, ever say &lt;i&gt;one word&lt;/i&gt; criticizing Gore&#039;s excessive &quot;carbon&quot; emissions. Not one word! Gore&#039;s huge emissions appear to be perfectly acceptable to all of them.

These are not stupid people. Therefore, it logically follows that they are &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; in on the AGW con job/conspiracy with the obvious goal of drastically raising taxes on the citizens of the developed world by using global warming scare tactics.

&lt;i&gt;&#039;&#039;The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.&#039;&#039;

~ H.L. Mencken&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least <a href="http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=FFDECF8B-78B1-48E6-8A84-8E8B35178B93" rel="nofollow">some people</a> know full well that AGW/global catastrophe is a scam.</p>
<p>If Al Gore actually believed in the hoax he is perpetrating, he would be a traitor to the human race by his profligate waste of resources and excessive carbon dioxide emissions, would he not?</p>
<p>And neither the UN/IPCC, nor James Hansen, not Michael Mann, nor Gavin Schmidt, nor the Nobel Committee, ever say <i>one word</i> criticizing Gore&#8217;s excessive &#8220;carbon&#8221; emissions. Not one word! Gore&#8217;s huge emissions appear to be perfectly acceptable to all of them.</p>
<p>These are not stupid people. Therefore, it logically follows that they are <i>all</i> in on the AGW con job/conspiracy with the obvious goal of drastically raising taxes on the citizens of the developed world by using global warming scare tactics.</p>
<p><i>&#8221;The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.&#8221;</p>
<p>~ H.L. Mencken</i></p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24328</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;AGW is a scam to separate taxpayers from their money by pretending a carbon tax is necessary to save the world.&lt;/cite&gt;

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a scam. I think they actually believe those things they believe. (The horror!)

Unfortunately, this doesn&#039;t make it less dangerous; it makes it more dangerous. A con man knows from the getgo what&#039;s the game. It&#039;s ever so much easier to drive off a scam artist than a true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>AGW is a scam to separate taxpayers from their money by pretending a carbon tax is necessary to save the world.</cite></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a scam. I think they actually believe those things they believe. (The horror!)</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this doesn&#8217;t make it less dangerous; it makes it more dangerous. A con man knows from the getgo what&#8217;s the game. It&#8217;s ever so much easier to drive off a scam artist than a true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24227</link>
		<dc:creator>Smokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right &lt;b&gt;Evan Jones,&lt;/b&gt; I inadvertently added a zero when doing my back of the envelope calculations. My mistake. Thanx for verifying. The U.S. uses 20.2 million BPD currently. I don&#039;t think it alters my conclusion, though: AGW is a scam to separate taxpayers from their money by pretending a carbon tax is necessary to save the world.

And re &lt;b&gt;Paul&#039;s&lt;/b&gt; comment, as stated I got the figures from Dr. Fred Singer&#039;s blog. Interesting Jaworowski link though, I had not seen it before. Thanx for posting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right <b>Evan Jones,</b> I inadvertently added a zero when doing my back of the envelope calculations. My mistake. Thanx for verifying. The U.S. uses 20.2 million BPD currently. I don&#8217;t think it alters my conclusion, though: AGW is a scam to separate taxpayers from their money by pretending a carbon tax is necessary to save the world.</p>
<p>And re <b>Paul&#8217;s</b> comment, as stated I got the figures from Dr. Fred Singer&#8217;s blog. Interesting Jaworowski link though, I had not seen it before. Thanx for posting it.</p>
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		<title>By: dotdashtilde &#187; Blog Archive &#187; “climate change delusion” coming to DSMR soon?</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24213</link>
		<dc:creator>dotdashtilde &#187; Blog Archive &#187; “climate change delusion” coming to DSMR soon?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up on this story over at Watts Up With That, via the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry:  “A 17-year-old man was referred to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up on this story over at Watts Up With That, via the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry:  “A 17-year-old man was referred to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24208</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I just rechecked EIA stats and it&#039;s actually less than 32 bil. barrels per year for the entire world.

(Let me alter my fears of running out from non-worry to negative worry.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I just rechecked EIA stats and it&#8217;s actually less than 32 bil. barrels per year for the entire world.</p>
<p>(Let me alter my fears of running out from non-worry to negative worry.)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smokey, the levels of CO2 you have stated looks like they may be too low for recent history. I realise this article is around 10 years old, but I don&#039;t see why age should reduce its findings...

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/2006_articles/IceCoreSprg97.pdf

Just a caution, It may be a little slow to open...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smokey, the levels of CO2 you have stated looks like they may be too low for recent history. I realise this article is around 10 years old, but I don&#8217;t see why age should reduce its findings&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/2006_articles/IceCoreSprg97.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/2006_articles/IceCoreSprg97.pdf</a></p>
<p>Just a caution, It may be a little slow to open&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MG: Taking nothing from the negative moral propensity of Chinese leadership, they are choosing between X pollution and Y poverty. Poverty is an incredible killer, and dirt farming is none to kind to the environment, either.

China and India will clean up as they rich up. Same as the west (but probably quicker) and for much the same reasons. In 20 to 30 years they will be emitting far less Dirty-snow-global-warming particulate pollution (while burning far more fuel) than they are today.

But they can&#039;t get there from here anytime soon without a big, smoky Vroooooom. And, as it was in the west, it&#039;s temporary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MG: Taking nothing from the negative moral propensity of Chinese leadership, they are choosing between X pollution and Y poverty. Poverty is an incredible killer, and dirt farming is none to kind to the environment, either.</p>
<p>China and India will clean up as they rich up. Same as the west (but probably quicker) and for much the same reasons. In 20 to 30 years they will be emitting far less Dirty-snow-global-warming particulate pollution (while burning far more fuel) than they are today.</p>
<p>But they can&#8217;t get there from here anytime soon without a big, smoky Vroooooom. And, as it was in the west, it&#8217;s temporary.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24204</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global Warming as Mass Neurosis
By BRET STEPHENS 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121486841811817591.html?mod=Global+View

An excellent article which was published in The Wall Street Journal on July 1st.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global Warming as Mass Neurosis<br />
By BRET STEPHENS<br />
<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121486841811817591.html?mod=Global+View" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121486841811817591.html?mod=Global+View</a></p>
<p>An excellent article which was published in The Wall Street Journal on July 1st.</p>
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		<title>By: AEGeneral</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24198</link>
		<dc:creator>AEGeneral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The AGW scam/hoax is all about the money: taxpayers’ personal wealth, and how politicians and the UN can get their hands deeper — much deeper — into the pockets of everyone who uses energy in any form.  - Smokey&lt;/i&gt;

AGW is more than just a scam now. It&#039;s a Biosafety Level 4 virus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The AGW scam/hoax is all about the money: taxpayers’ personal wealth, and how politicians and the UN can get their hands deeper — much deeper — into the pockets of everyone who uses energy in any form.  &#8211; Smokey</i></p>
<p>AGW is more than just a scam now. It&#8217;s a Biosafety Level 4 virus.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Gordianus</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24191</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Gordianus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting global warming aside - for I understand it is a theory and not very well understood - there are more immediate and visible effects of industry that need to be guarded against.  Take a look at this listing:
http://www.livescience.com/environment/061018_polluted_places.html

Seem like some places you want to live?  Me neither.  But I believe some of you were talking about how China and India are clever enough to not commit economic suicide - perhaps that is true, but they are also heartless enough and greedy enough to subject many of their citizens to pollution levels so high as to make a Robber Baron wince.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting global warming aside &#8211; for I understand it is a theory and not very well understood &#8211; there are more immediate and visible effects of industry that need to be guarded against.  Take a look at this listing:<br />
<a href="http://www.livescience.com/environment/061018_polluted_places.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.livescience.com/environment/061018_polluted_places.html</a></p>
<p>Seem like some places you want to live?  Me neither.  But I believe some of you were talking about how China and India are clever enough to not commit economic suicide &#8211; perhaps that is true, but they are also heartless enough and greedy enough to subject many of their citizens to pollution levels so high as to make a Robber Baron wince.</p>
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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/09/psychiatrists-have-detected-the-first-case-of-climate-change-delusion/#comment-24183</link>
		<dc:creator>Smokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Michael May&lt;/b&gt; said (20:20:09) :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Global warming is a real phenomenon. And yes, human activity has contributed to it.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Global cooling is also a real phenomenon - and &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; more dangerous than any warming - unless Michael May thinks a cyclical Ice Age is good: &lt;a href=&quot;http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/gorebot/tempplot5.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;click.&lt;/a&gt; Any human activity that slows planetary cooling, while greatly increasing plant growth, is entirely beneficial. Unfortunately, the human influence on the planet is completely over-hyped.

According to Dr. S. Frederick Singer, these are the percentages of the atmosphere&#039;s &quot;greenhouse&quot; gases:

- 95% water vapor
- 3.618% CO2
- 0.360% methane
- 0.950% nitrous oxide
- 0.072% misc gases [argon, xenon, etc.]

CO2 accounts for 3.618% of the &quot;greenhouse&quot; gases; therefore, 96.775% of &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; CO2 in the atmosphere is a &lt;i&gt;natural occurence.&lt;/i&gt; The remaining 3.225% is the result of human activity. 

Using simple math (.03618% X .03225) = 0.00117 of all greenhouse gases are due to human activity, and the remaining 99.883% of all greenhouse gases are naturally occurring.

According to the UN/IPCC, as of 2005 the atmospheric concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere was 379ppm. Two centuries ago, the total was roughly 275ppm. Since the start of the Industrial Age, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has increased by only about 104ppm [parts per &lt;i&gt;million.&lt;/i&gt; In other words, over two centuries the concentration of atmospheric CO2 has increased by about one molecule in ten thousand.

Since 96.775% of CO2 in the atmosphere is there as a result of natural occurence, that means that about 366ppm out of 379ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere already exists naturally, while the remaining 13ppm (3.225%) is the result of human activity.

Most of the approximately 100 ppm increase in CO2 over the past two centuries is natural [volcanoes, ocean outgassing, etc.]. Yet the UN/IPCC mendaciously implies that the entire increase in atmospheric CO2 is due exclusively to human activity.

Based on this small increase in overall CO2 concentrations [and by using deliberately misleading charts in which the Y-axis begins at 300 ppm, &lt;a href=&quot;http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/gorebot/co2-2000.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rather than at zero&lt;/a&gt;],  James Hansen, Al Gore, the UN and the rest of the climate deceivers all tell us that we are facing a &quot;planetary catastrophe.&quot; That is their stated hypothesis, which has been repeatedly falsified.

Why are they deliberately lying?

The U.S. uses nearly 80 billion barrels of oil per year. Assume a &quot;carbon tax&quot; of $40 per barrel [some estimates are much higher]. That amounts to a $3.2 &lt;i&gt;trillion&lt;/i&gt; additional tax on 300 million U.S. consumers, every year, and much of it to be paid into and administered by the opaque, unaccountable UN. The carbon tax would show up in higher prices in everything that is manufactured, and everything that is transported by air, rail, ship  or trucking companies. Utility bills will skyrocket. $4 gasoline will be remembered as being cheap. 

Politicians will never let us get into the position where the lights don&#039;t come on when we flip the switch; it would mean their jobs. All the devious scaremongering over AGW/global catastrophe has just &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; goal in mind: a carbon tax on the developed nations.

The AGW scam/hoax is all about the money: taxpayers&#039; personal wealth, and how politicians and the UN can get their hands deeper -- &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; deeper -- into the pockets of everyone who uses energy in any form. That&#039;s all of us, folks.

Word up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Michael May</b> said (20:20:09) :</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Global warming is a real phenomenon. And yes, human activity has contributed to it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Global cooling is also a real phenomenon &#8211; and <i>much</i> more dangerous than any warming &#8211; unless Michael May thinks a cyclical Ice Age is good: <a href="http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/gorebot/tempplot5.gif" rel="nofollow">click.</a> Any human activity that slows planetary cooling, while greatly increasing plant growth, is entirely beneficial. Unfortunately, the human influence on the planet is completely over-hyped.</p>
<p>According to Dr. S. Frederick Singer, these are the percentages of the atmosphere&#8217;s &#8220;greenhouse&#8221; gases:</p>
<p>- 95% water vapor<br />
- 3.618% CO2<br />
- 0.360% methane<br />
- 0.950% nitrous oxide<br />
- 0.072% misc gases [argon, xenon, etc.]</p>
<p>CO2 accounts for 3.618% of the &#8220;greenhouse&#8221; gases; therefore, 96.775% of <i>all</i> CO2 in the atmosphere is a <i>natural occurence.</i> The remaining 3.225% is the result of human activity. </p>
<p>Using simple math (.03618% X .03225) = 0.00117 of all greenhouse gases are due to human activity, and the remaining 99.883% of all greenhouse gases are naturally occurring.</p>
<p>According to the UN/IPCC, as of 2005 the atmospheric concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere was 379ppm. Two centuries ago, the total was roughly 275ppm. Since the start of the Industrial Age, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has increased by only about 104ppm [parts per <i>million.</i> In other words, over two centuries the concentration of atmospheric CO2 has increased by about one molecule in ten thousand.</p>
<p>Since 96.775% of CO2 in the atmosphere is there as a result of natural occurence, that means that about 366ppm out of 379ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere already exists naturally, while the remaining 13ppm (3.225%) is the result of human activity.</p>
<p>Most of the approximately 100 ppm increase in CO2 over the past two centuries is natural [volcanoes, ocean outgassing, etc.]. Yet the UN/IPCC mendaciously implies that the entire increase in atmospheric CO2 is due exclusively to human activity.</p>
<p>Based on this small increase in overall CO2 concentrations [and by using deliberately misleading charts in which the Y-axis begins at 300 ppm, <a href="http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/gorebot/co2-2000.gif" rel="nofollow">rather than at zero</a>],  James Hansen, Al Gore, the UN and the rest of the climate deceivers all tell us that we are facing a &#8220;planetary catastrophe.&#8221; That is their stated hypothesis, which has been repeatedly falsified.</p>
<p>Why are they deliberately lying?</p>
<p>The U.S. uses nearly 80 billion barrels of oil per year. Assume a &#8220;carbon tax&#8221; of $40 per barrel [some estimates are much higher]. That amounts to a $3.2 <i>trillion</i> additional tax on 300 million U.S. consumers, every year, and much of it to be paid into and administered by the opaque, unaccountable UN. The carbon tax would show up in higher prices in everything that is manufactured, and everything that is transported by air, rail, ship  or trucking companies. Utility bills will skyrocket. $4 gasoline will be remembered as being cheap. </p>
<p>Politicians will never let us get into the position where the lights don&#8217;t come on when we flip the switch; it would mean their jobs. All the devious scaremongering over AGW/global catastrophe has just <i>one</i> goal in mind: a carbon tax on the developed nations.</p>
<p>The AGW scam/hoax is all about the money: taxpayers&#8217; personal wealth, and how politicians and the UN can get their hands deeper &#8212; <i>much</i> deeper &#8212; into the pockets of everyone who uses energy in any form. That&#8217;s all of us, folks.</p>
<p>Word up.</p>
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