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		<title>By: yonason</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-66377</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yonason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHO IS &quot;Hellhound?&quot;  

Is he the Greenpeace mascot?  Or perhaps it&#039;s the bow ornament of one of their scows after which this poster chooses to name himself?  Is it just a coincidence that when anyone tries to tell the truth, he pops up and throws his quano in their general direction?  And why is he so eager for puny anti-civilization interests to be heard?  Is it because &lt;a href=&quot;http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2006/08/bak_to_skool_we_3.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;misery love company?&lt;/a&gt;  I have a feeling that if this mystery were to be solved, we would be no more the wiser for our wasted efforts than that pathetic drone &quot;Hellhound&quot; ever is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHO IS &#8220;Hellhound?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Is he the Greenpeace mascot?  Or perhaps it&#8217;s the bow ornament of one of their scows after which this poster chooses to name himself?  Is it just a coincidence that when anyone tries to tell the truth, he pops up and throws his quano in their general direction?  And why is he so eager for puny anti-civilization interests to be heard?  Is it because <a href="http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2006/08/bak_to_skool_we_3.html" rel="nofollow">misery love company?</a>  I have a feeling that if this mystery were to be solved, we would be no more the wiser for our wasted efforts than that pathetic drone &#8220;Hellhound&#8221; ever is.</p>
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		<title>By: Hellhound</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-31657</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hellhound]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, El Reg&#039;s Mr. Goddard! Who is he, one may ask, as a &quot;Steven Goddard&quot; doesn&#039;t even exist on the interweb before April 2008. 

Yet the Register chose to continously enlighten us with his views on climate change without criticism, Is he perhaps having some connection to IT professional John Atkinson, who was allowed to post a similarly incoherent article on the Register? Is it just a coincidence that someone using the moniker &quot;John A.&quot; pops up regularly on the blog of Stephen McIntyre, who works in IT as well and is known for making powerful oil interests heard?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, El Reg&#8217;s Mr. Goddard! Who is he, one may ask, as a &#8220;Steven Goddard&#8221; doesn&#8217;t even exist on the interweb before April 2008. </p>
<p>Yet the Register chose to continously enlighten us with his views on climate change without criticism, Is he perhaps having some connection to IT professional John Atkinson, who was allowed to post a similarly incoherent article on the Register? Is it just a coincidence that someone using the moniker &#8220;John A.&#8221; pops up regularly on the blog of Stephen McIntyre, who works in IT as well and is known for making powerful oil interests heard?</p>
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		<title>By: 3 Below &#187; Coloring the Models: Climate Change through Color Change</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-25272</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3 Below &#187; Coloring the Models: Climate Change through Color Change]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Coloring the Models: Climate Change through Color Change NOTE: Mike alerted me in comments about this article he wrote along the lines of my story on Color and Temperature: Perception is everything. So I thought this would be good to examine again. This article below is re-posted from John &#8230; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Coloring the Models: Climate Change through Color Change NOTE: Mike alerted me in comments about this article he wrote along the lines of my story on Color and Temperature: Perception is everything. So I thought this would be good to examine again. This article below is re-posted from John &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bateman</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-23231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Bateman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Earth&#039;s climate, whether warming or cooling, is not the simple thing that we seek.
The Earth&#039;s climate, she&#039;s as fickle as they come, perched on a hair trigger.
Doesn&#039;t seem to take a whole lot to run it hot or cold, whether it&#039;s sunspot activity, volacanoes cooking off, massive dumping of CO2 into the atmosphere, etc.  
The whole geologic record going back 4 billion years seems to imply that while at any given point in time you can have large climate swings, on the whole it has been cooling since the Earth formed.  There was even an ice age some 3.x billion years ago.  So the Earth&#039;s climate, she&#039;s fickle and easily moved about and it&#039;s probably been that way from the beginning.
What might this mean?  If we knew what we were doing, global climate moderating is possible.
But make a change in the midst of a misread trend and you might get an Ice Age or a PETM.
The Lag time of Co2 rising after warming in light of the climate cooling 30 yrs after the onset of Maunder Minimum seems to say that there is great momentum in play in the climate engine, but it does reverse directions in a few decades.
The Sun also may have the same general tendency of many decades.
Who is to say that the Sun&#039;s magnetic hiccups of many maxima followed by inconsistent minima is not due to the Sun&#039;s travelling through galactic lines of force?  Might be something to look at.  Or it could be that the Sun has it&#039;s own massive inertia to overcome long after the forces that drove the stop are spent.
But every time I see these plotted graphs I have to think that they are really showing us symptoms instead of telling us what is causing the change.
I&#039;m grasping at the straws here, because there really isn&#039;t much else to reach for.
One thing is for sure: This sunspot delay/crash has just wiped out all our theories.  We have precious little idea of what comes next.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Earth&#8217;s climate, whether warming or cooling, is not the simple thing that we seek.<br />
The Earth&#8217;s climate, she&#8217;s as fickle as they come, perched on a hair trigger.<br />
Doesn&#8217;t seem to take a whole lot to run it hot or cold, whether it&#8217;s sunspot activity, volacanoes cooking off, massive dumping of CO2 into the atmosphere, etc.<br />
The whole geologic record going back 4 billion years seems to imply that while at any given point in time you can have large climate swings, on the whole it has been cooling since the Earth formed.  There was even an ice age some 3.x billion years ago.  So the Earth&#8217;s climate, she&#8217;s fickle and easily moved about and it&#8217;s probably been that way from the beginning.<br />
What might this mean?  If we knew what we were doing, global climate moderating is possible.<br />
But make a change in the midst of a misread trend and you might get an Ice Age or a PETM.<br />
The Lag time of Co2 rising after warming in light of the climate cooling 30 yrs after the onset of Maunder Minimum seems to say that there is great momentum in play in the climate engine, but it does reverse directions in a few decades.<br />
The Sun also may have the same general tendency of many decades.<br />
Who is to say that the Sun&#8217;s magnetic hiccups of many maxima followed by inconsistent minima is not due to the Sun&#8217;s travelling through galactic lines of force?  Might be something to look at.  Or it could be that the Sun has it&#8217;s own massive inertia to overcome long after the forces that drove the stop are spent.<br />
But every time I see these plotted graphs I have to think that they are really showing us symptoms instead of telling us what is causing the change.<br />
I&#8217;m grasping at the straws here, because there really isn&#8217;t much else to reach for.<br />
One thing is for sure: This sunspot delay/crash has just wiped out all our theories.  We have precious little idea of what comes next.</p>
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		<title>By: Budd Campbell</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-22881</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Budd Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was revealing to see the posts by statepoet.  I suppose he&#039;s typical?

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; I wouldn&#039;t know, are unclear comments typical for you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was revealing to see the posts by statepoet.  I suppose he&#8217;s typical?</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> I wouldn&#8217;t know, are unclear comments typical for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Look out, Mr Cameron, or we&#8217;ll all be in the dark &#171; Blowing Our Tax Dollars on Wind Farms</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-22429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Look out, Mr Cameron, or we&#8217;ll all be in the dark &#171; Blowing Our Tax Dollars on Wind Farms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Far from continuing to rise in sync with CO2 levels, as the theory says they should, temperatures have not only been dropping but are now lower than when Hansen and Gore set the scare in train in 1988. (For latest graph see the Watts Up With That website.) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Far from continuing to rise in sync with CO2 levels, as the theory says they should, temperatures have not only been dropping but are now lower than when Hansen and Gore set the scare in train in 1988. (For latest graph see the Watts Up With That website.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ophiuchus</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-22330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ophiuchus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;No I’m just waiting for the light bulb to come on for you. Personally I think you are overanalysing it. I figure that if you don’t see it by now, you probably won’t.&lt;/i&gt;

When a communication fails, the reader asks for clarification, and the writer refuses, do this prove that the reader is stupid or that the author is evasive?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>No I’m just waiting for the light bulb to come on for you. Personally I think you are overanalysing it. I figure that if you don’t see it by now, you probably won’t.</i></p>
<p>When a communication fails, the reader asks for clarification, and the writer refuses, do this prove that the reader is stupid or that the author is evasive?</p>
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		<title>By: Ophiuchus</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-22286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ophiuchus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven Goddard suggests that the NASA sea level map was &quot;carefully colored to create alarm&quot;. I examined the map and see nothing alarming in it. They used the most common approach of fitting the color scale to the range of possible values, and in this case used yellow as the null value. I examined the actual RGB values at the extremes and the middle, and it&#039;s difficult to assign a numeric algorithm to their scale. In any case, I see no basis for the claim that there&#039;s something deliberately deceptive in the color scheme. Could you expand on your statement?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Goddard suggests that the NASA sea level map was &#8220;carefully colored to create alarm&#8221;. I examined the map and see nothing alarming in it. They used the most common approach of fitting the color scale to the range of possible values, and in this case used yellow as the null value. I examined the actual RGB values at the extremes and the middle, and it&#8217;s difficult to assign a numeric algorithm to their scale. In any case, I see no basis for the claim that there&#8217;s something deliberately deceptive in the color scheme. Could you expand on your statement?</p>
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		<title>By: Ophiuchus</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-22283</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ophiuchus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your cryptic replies suggest evasiveness rather than openness. If you don&#039;t care to discuss the matter, perhaps it would be better to simply say so.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; No I&#039;m just waiting for the light bulb to come on for you. Personally I think you are overanalysing it. I figure that if you don&#039;t see it by now, you probably won&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your cryptic replies suggest evasiveness rather than openness. If you don&#8217;t care to discuss the matter, perhaps it would be better to simply say so.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> No I&#8217;m just waiting for the light bulb to come on for you. Personally I think you are overanalysing it. I figure that if you don&#8217;t see it by now, you probably won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Goddard</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-22275</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Goddard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An excellent example of a NASA map, carefully colored to create alarm.  
They used yellow to represent areas where sea level is falling.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=18075]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent example of a NASA map, carefully colored to create alarm.<br />
They used yellow to represent areas where sea level is falling.</p>
<p><a href="http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=18075" rel="nofollow">http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=18075</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ophiuchus</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-22264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ophiuchus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well then, let me show you the statement in your article that was the basis for my observation:

&lt;i&gt;The USGCRP’s solution to this conundrum was to alter the temperature color scale by eliminating yellow and green, and extending the color orange into negative temperature ranges as low as -1.0°F, thereby implying warming,  when in fact the models were showing no temperature change or cooling for some localities.&lt;/i&gt;

The problem with this sentence is that the two clauses constitute a non sequitur. The first clause talks about the color scale, while the second clause asserts that the applied colors did not match the underlying temperatures. There&#039;s no logical relationship between the two clauses. Moreover, you seem to have three actual complaints:

a. the colors yellow and green were eliminated. Is this an aesthetic criticism? Do you have some special attachment to yellow and green? 

b. the color orange has been extended below 0 degrees Fahrenheit to -1 degree Fahrenheit. This criticism is justified -- but hardly serious given the displayed range of some 20 degrees Fahrenheit.

c. You imply that there exist points on the map whose temperature differentials are not correctly represented by the applied colors. Is this in fact your claim?

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY: &lt;/strong&gt;Nope, still missed it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well then, let me show you the statement in your article that was the basis for my observation:</p>
<p><i>The USGCRP’s solution to this conundrum was to alter the temperature color scale by eliminating yellow and green, and extending the color orange into negative temperature ranges as low as -1.0°F, thereby implying warming,  when in fact the models were showing no temperature change or cooling for some localities.</i></p>
<p>The problem with this sentence is that the two clauses constitute a non sequitur. The first clause talks about the color scale, while the second clause asserts that the applied colors did not match the underlying temperatures. There&#8217;s no logical relationship between the two clauses. Moreover, you seem to have three actual complaints:</p>
<p>a. the colors yellow and green were eliminated. Is this an aesthetic criticism? Do you have some special attachment to yellow and green? </p>
<p>b. the color orange has been extended below 0 degrees Fahrenheit to -1 degree Fahrenheit. This criticism is justified &#8212; but hardly serious given the displayed range of some 20 degrees Fahrenheit.</p>
<p>c. You imply that there exist points on the map whose temperature differentials are not correctly represented by the applied colors. Is this in fact your claim?</p>
<p><strong>REPLY: </strong>Nope, still missed it</p>
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		<title>By: Ophiuchus</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-22227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ophiuchus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suggest that the criticism of the map coloring reflects an unfamiliarity with some of the principles that drive the use of color in graphical representations. It appears to me that the left side graphics (which include the green color) were created with the goal of maximizing differentiation by using the broadest color range over the existing range of delta-Ts. This is the starting point for most graphics that use color.

However, I can also see somebody point out that cool colors imply cooling and that therefore the color range should be adjusted so as to have warm colors indicating warming and cool colors indicating cooling. This is exactly what the right-side graphics appear to do, although they do suffer from a problem with the transition from warm colors to cool colors: first, they jump directly from orange to blue, and second, the transition occurs at -1 degree Fahrenheit rather than 0 degrees Fahrenheit.

Unless I am greatly misunderstanding the claims made in this article, I think the criticism offered is unjustified.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY: &lt;/strong&gt;Yes you&#039;ve completely misunderstood it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest that the criticism of the map coloring reflects an unfamiliarity with some of the principles that drive the use of color in graphical representations. It appears to me that the left side graphics (which include the green color) were created with the goal of maximizing differentiation by using the broadest color range over the existing range of delta-Ts. This is the starting point for most graphics that use color.</p>
<p>However, I can also see somebody point out that cool colors imply cooling and that therefore the color range should be adjusted so as to have warm colors indicating warming and cool colors indicating cooling. This is exactly what the right-side graphics appear to do, although they do suffer from a problem with the transition from warm colors to cool colors: first, they jump directly from orange to blue, and second, the transition occurs at -1 degree Fahrenheit rather than 0 degrees Fahrenheit.</p>
<p>Unless I am greatly misunderstanding the claims made in this article, I think the criticism offered is unjustified.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY: </strong>Yes you&#8217;ve completely misunderstood it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that neither version is reasonable.

The second one overplays warming and shows that there is a lot occurring, and the first underplays it, masking the warming. However, of the two, I believe the first one was innocent, done to maximize contrast, and the second one was deliberately done to emphasize warming. Why? Because there is a full spectrum of colors that is expected on weather maps, ranging from purple in the extreme cold to red in extreme heat. Eliminating any color on the rainbow causes confusion, especially eliminating the neutral green and warm yellow colors, skiping straight to the orange.

A better scale would be 
&lt; -3 degrees = Blue - Cooling
+/- 3 degrees = Green - Really no change
&lt; 6 degrees = Yellow
 9 degrees = Red]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that neither version is reasonable.</p>
<p>The second one overplays warming and shows that there is a lot occurring, and the first underplays it, masking the warming. However, of the two, I believe the first one was innocent, done to maximize contrast, and the second one was deliberately done to emphasize warming. Why? Because there is a full spectrum of colors that is expected on weather maps, ranging from purple in the extreme cold to red in extreme heat. Eliminating any color on the rainbow causes confusion, especially eliminating the neutral green and warm yellow colors, skiping straight to the orange.</p>
<p>A better scale would be<br />
&lt; -3 degrees = Blue &#8211; Cooling<br />
+/- 3 degrees = Green &#8211; Really no change<br />
&lt; 6 degrees = Yellow<br />
 9 degrees = Red</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-21857</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MarkL, I&#039;ve already posted more on this than I should have, so won&#039;t go on. You all get the last word. Let&#039;s just say the Pope can say anything he wants, that doesn&#039;t make it true. And Theology is the study of religion, not faith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MarkL, I&#8217;ve already posted more on this than I should have, so won&#8217;t go on. You all get the last word. Let&#8217;s just say the Pope can say anything he wants, that doesn&#8217;t make it true. And Theology is the study of religion, not faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/28/coloring-the-models-climate-change-through-color-change/#comment-21856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;That would assume that God is necessarily concerned with earthly wellbeing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All the believers think he/she/it is.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What if, as is commonly believed, life on earth is a mere, brief testing ground for a soul’s destiny in eternity? Then goodness or badness, justice, injustice, and early, arbitrary death are irrelevant in the long run. It would all be wrapped up in what one does with what time one has.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What if, it&#039;s not. Really, Evan, this is just philosophizing. No one knows or can know one way or the other, which is the whole problem. You know that religion is a means of controlling the populace, nothing more.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Or to put it another way, your teacher would care a lot whether you score well on the SAT but would not be overly concerned if the AC wasn’t working during the test. He’d care about how well you did, not how comfortable you were during the three hours of the test.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry, but how does this equate to an all-powerful, all-knowing being who seems concerned enough about the &quot;sweet savour&quot; of roasted, unblemished male rams we all must sacrifice, but no one does? Concerned enough that we shouldn&#039;t eat pork, must stone rape victims to death because they just shouldn&#039;t have been out in the city, concerned enough to torture an old man into killing his son only to call &quot;psych&quot; just before the deed? Come on, Evan, you know it&#039;s all a bunch of crap.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I am a nonbeliever, but seemingly arbitrary death and disaster is perfectly well accounted for by every major religion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course it is. They&#039;d have been out of business long ago if they couldn&#039;t answer why bad things happen to good people. And the answers are bogus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That would assume that God is necessarily concerned with earthly wellbeing.</p></blockquote>
<p>All the believers think he/she/it is.</p>
<blockquote><p>What if, as is commonly believed, life on earth is a mere, brief testing ground for a soul’s destiny in eternity? Then goodness or badness, justice, injustice, and early, arbitrary death are irrelevant in the long run. It would all be wrapped up in what one does with what time one has.</p></blockquote>
<p>What if, it&#8217;s not. Really, Evan, this is just philosophizing. No one knows or can know one way or the other, which is the whole problem. You know that religion is a means of controlling the populace, nothing more.</p>
<blockquote><p>Or to put it another way, your teacher would care a lot whether you score well on the SAT but would not be overly concerned if the AC wasn’t working during the test. He’d care about how well you did, not how comfortable you were during the three hours of the test.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry, but how does this equate to an all-powerful, all-knowing being who seems concerned enough about the &#8220;sweet savour&#8221; of roasted, unblemished male rams we all must sacrifice, but no one does? Concerned enough that we shouldn&#8217;t eat pork, must stone rape victims to death because they just shouldn&#8217;t have been out in the city, concerned enough to torture an old man into killing his son only to call &#8220;psych&#8221; just before the deed? Come on, Evan, you know it&#8217;s all a bunch of crap.</p>
<blockquote><p>I am a nonbeliever, but seemingly arbitrary death and disaster is perfectly well accounted for by every major religion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course it is. They&#8217;d have been out of business long ago if they couldn&#8217;t answer why bad things happen to good people. And the answers are bogus.</p>
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