<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: More Signs Of The Sun Slowing Down</title>
	<atom:link href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/</link>
	<description>The world&#039;s most viewed site on global warming and climate change</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:34:45 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Global Cooling Proves that Man is NOT to Blame for Climate Change &#124; SacredScoop</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-32527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Cooling Proves that Man is NOT to Blame for Climate Change &#124; SacredScoop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-32527</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] Excerpt: It appears we continue to slide into a deeper than normal solar minima, one not seen in decades. Given the signs, I think we are about to embark upon a grand experiment, over which we have no control [...] I had noted that there was a curios step function in 2005, almost as if something had “switched off” [...] As you can see, the Ap Index has continued along at the low level (slightly above zero) that was established during the drop in October 2005. As of June 2008, we now have 32 months of the Ap hovering around a value just slightly above zero, with occasional blips of noise. [...] What is most striking is that since 1932, there have not been ANY years prior to 2007 that have zero data. [...] (Whatsupwiththat...) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Excerpt: It appears we continue to slide into a deeper than normal solar minima, one not seen in decades. Given the signs, I think we are about to embark upon a grand experiment, over which we have no control [...] I had noted that there was a curios step function in 2005, almost as if something had “switched off” [...] As you can see, the Ap Index has continued along at the low level (slightly above zero) that was established during the drop in October 2005. As of June 2008, we now have 32 months of the Ap hovering around a value just slightly above zero, with occasional blips of noise. [...] What is most striking is that since 1932, there have not been ANY years prior to 2007 that have zero data. [...] (Whatsupwiththat&#8230;) [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Uncensored Magazine &#124; The Sun is slowing down</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-29795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncensored Magazine &#124; The Sun is slowing down]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-29795</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/</a> [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stones Cry Out - If they keep silent&#8230; &#187; &#60;strike&#62;Global&#60;/strike&#62; Solar Warming Update</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-20004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stones Cry Out - If they keep silent&#8230; &#187; &#60;strike&#62;Global&#60;/strike&#62; Solar Warming Update]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-20004</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] we see.&#160; There are sunspot affects, and now more NOAA data showing that the Sun&#8217;s magnetic field is doing its part as well. A few months ago, I had plotted the Average Geomagnetic Planetary Index [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we see.&#160; There are sunspot affects, and now more NOAA data showing that the Sun&#8217;s magnetic field is doing its part as well. A few months ago, I had plotted the Average Geomagnetic Planetary Index [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pamela Gray</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19948</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19948</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Leif:

Could you provide input on the rotation differences along sun latitudes?  When magnetic ropes get all coiled up and burst to the surface is it because the different rotation speeds cause these magnetic ropes to coil up, especially if the magnetic ropes cross latitudes that are rotating as different speeds?  Or do they coil up on their own even if the sun rotated at the same relative speed at each latitude?  And if the coils are the result of different rotation speeds, what were to happen if the different speeds occasionally and predictably were in synch with each other (like windshield wipers on a school bus)?  Is there data on rotation speeds, or more to the point, differentials, over time?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leif:</p>
<p>Could you provide input on the rotation differences along sun latitudes?  When magnetic ropes get all coiled up and burst to the surface is it because the different rotation speeds cause these magnetic ropes to coil up, especially if the magnetic ropes cross latitudes that are rotating as different speeds?  Or do they coil up on their own even if the sun rotated at the same relative speed at each latitude?  And if the coils are the result of different rotation speeds, what were to happen if the different speeds occasionally and predictably were in synch with each other (like windshield wipers on a school bus)?  Is there data on rotation speeds, or more to the point, differentials, over time?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: What Does a Defeated Budget Mean? &#171; WH Forums</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Does a Defeated Budget Mean? &#171; WH Forums]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19934</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] So what does a defeated budget mean? What does it tell us about our town? If last November&#8217;s election is any indication, it means nothing about the future makeup of the Town Council &#8212; West Hartford voted solidly for the same people &#8212; and the same party &#8212; despite the &#8216;07 referendum. And it likely doesn&#8217;t mean much about what the budget will ultimately look like &#8230; the odds that this council will produce a budget that does not reflect a tax increase are slimmer than the odds of the sun burning out. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So what does a defeated budget mean? What does it tell us about our town? If last November&#8217;s election is any indication, it means nothing about the future makeup of the Town Council &#8212; West Hartford voted solidly for the same people &#8212; and the same party &#8212; despite the &#8216;07 referendum. And it likely doesn&#8217;t mean much about what the budget will ultimately look like &#8230; the odds that this council will produce a budget that does not reflect a tax increase are slimmer than the odds of the sun burning out. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mddwave</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mddwave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19884</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I have a geological question.

If the earth either warms or cools signicantly (&gt;1 degrees C or so) very rapidly (in geologic time), would earthquakes happen more frequently as the earth&#039;s crust warms up and expands or as the earth cools down and contracts?

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Ah, the bait question, soon to be answered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a geological question.</p>
<p>If the earth either warms or cools signicantly (&gt;1 degrees C or so) very rapidly (in geologic time), would earthquakes happen more frequently as the earth&#8217;s crust warms up and expands or as the earth cools down and contracts?</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Ah, the bait question, soon to be answered.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gary Gulrud</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Gulrud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19834</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[David:

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/about-climate-change]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:</p>
<p><a href="http://icecap.us/index.php/go/about-climate-change" rel="nofollow">http://icecap.us/index.php/go/about-climate-change</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19819</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19819</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m trying to find some relationship between the sun and temperature on earth.  I can see that the sun activity is going down, and so is the recent temperature data.  But solar activity seems to move in a sine function, so it&#039;s hard to see the link between long term solar activity (sine function) and temperature (with an up trend).  I&#039;d like someone to show me this link, otherwise the information on the sun that keeps being posted will seem a little useless.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to find some relationship between the sun and temperature on earth.  I can see that the sun activity is going down, and so is the recent temperature data.  But solar activity seems to move in a sine function, so it&#8217;s hard to see the link between long term solar activity (sine function) and temperature (with an up trend).  I&#8217;d like someone to show me this link, otherwise the information on the sun that keeps being posted will seem a little useless.  Thanks.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pamela Gray</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19738</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19738</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Higher elevation farming microcosms allow an interesting review of produce changes that manage to stay on top of temperature changes.  Instead of domestic cows, sheep rise to the top when it gets cold.  Instead of row crops, winter wheat becomes King.  Instead of slow growing crops (melons), cool season crops (peas) get planted.  Instead of crops that produce above ground food (tomatoes), crops that produce below ground food (potatoes) are planted.  There will be pockets of producers that will once again be able to ship out of the area.  These small communities will likely be hit less severely than areas that have grown rapidly as a result of a warmer, sunnier climate while still being surrounded by lush vegetation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Higher elevation farming microcosms allow an interesting review of produce changes that manage to stay on top of temperature changes.  Instead of domestic cows, sheep rise to the top when it gets cold.  Instead of row crops, winter wheat becomes King.  Instead of slow growing crops (melons), cool season crops (peas) get planted.  Instead of crops that produce above ground food (tomatoes), crops that produce below ground food (potatoes) are planted.  There will be pockets of producers that will once again be able to ship out of the area.  These small communities will likely be hit less severely than areas that have grown rapidly as a result of a warmer, sunnier climate while still being surrounded by lush vegetation.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19705</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I still don&#039;t buy it.

The only thing that racks up real numbers is the impact of ethanol and bad harvests. The other stuff doesn&#039;t add up to a hill of beans, and some of it I just outright dispute (if you want tainted food, just go back before refrigeration and germ theory).

I&#039;d be interested in actual numbers on the grain issue though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t buy it.</p>
<p>The only thing that racks up real numbers is the impact of ethanol and bad harvests. The other stuff doesn&#8217;t add up to a hill of beans, and some of it I just outright dispute (if you want tainted food, just go back before refrigeration and germ theory).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in actual numbers on the grain issue though.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard deSousa</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19697</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard deSousa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19697</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[SteveS: And I thought my 10% (600 million) die off rate was horrific...  if your predictions hold, the die off rate could climb as high as 25% (1.5 billion)...  :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveS: And I thought my 10% (600 million) die off rate was horrific&#8230;  if your predictions hold, the die off rate could climb as high as 25% (1.5 billion)&#8230;  :(</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: SteveSadlov</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveSadlov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19684</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The die off increase:
- Myanmar
- China
- General increase in starvation related deaths
- Seeming slow but certain flare up in global conflict hot spots
- Poor economy in US leading to rising violent crime rate
- TBD impacts of US midwest floods
- Toll of massive tornado outbreaks (due to negative PDO / La Nina / low solar activity)
- Seeming increase in tainted food related deaths
- Inevitable increase in alcoholism and drug abuse due to many of the above factors]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The die off increase:<br />
- Myanmar<br />
- China<br />
- General increase in starvation related deaths<br />
- Seeming slow but certain flare up in global conflict hot spots<br />
- Poor economy in US leading to rising violent crime rate<br />
- TBD impacts of US midwest floods<br />
- Toll of massive tornado outbreaks (due to negative PDO / La Nina / low solar activity)<br />
- Seeming increase in tainted food related deaths<br />
- Inevitable increase in alcoholism and drug abuse due to many of the above factors</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19681</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;Consider the increase in die off rate over the past 90 days alone.&lt;/cite&gt;

I&#039;d be interested in seeing that, actually, if you have a handy link.

I think you are too pessimistic and that human population will be a standard S-curve, but I am interested in the effects of last winter+ ethanol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Consider the increase in die off rate over the past 90 days alone.</cite></p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in seeing that, actually, if you have a handy link.</p>
<p>I think you are too pessimistic and that human population will be a standard S-curve, but I am interested in the effects of last winter+ ethanol.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Benjamin Winters</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Winters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19678</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to get on record that I think you&#039;re exactly right.  IMO, one of the biggest results of the impending cooling will be the realization by the general public that scientific consensus, indeed expert consensus of any kind, can be and often (usually?) is wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to get on record that I think you&#8217;re exactly right.  IMO, one of the biggest results of the impending cooling will be the realization by the general public that scientific consensus, indeed expert consensus of any kind, can be and often (usually?) is wrong.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joe Bastardi</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/15/more-signs-of-the-sun-slowing-down/#comment-19672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Bastardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/?p=1382#comment-19672</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Anthony, Bastardi  here.

Ever feel like the  debate is over,  but not the way Al Gore  feels it is , BUT THE OPPOSITE WAY.
I respect the work at Scripps and see their points, but  to me its ice, not fire,  that
will be the big problem within  50 years

There is something I call the triple crown of cooling  that I fear more than
than the increasinly  obvious trumped up spectre of global warming.  I suspect the first part,(1) the natural snapback of the earth has already started  ( absent  any increase in  
non earthly variables, ie  things not produced by the earth  directly or indirectly, the set temp of the earth
is always  strived for by the earth....the warmer it gets, the more likely it is to turn colder and vice versa given all  outside influences remain at a steady state)
However combine this with   (2)  what appears to be steady evidence that we are heading into a long term overall minimum of sunspot activity in these  11 year cycles similar to previous  cooling period mins   and  (3)  the wild card of increased volcanism, it would appears that there is as much or more of a threat from the exact
oppsite  of what  is beting touted in the media.

What is the over and under on  time  it takes for them to realize this and tell us we are going to perish for the reasons they were screaming in the 70s. You are out west, perhaps  you can get Las Vegas to set  odds  (lol...though its not that funny)

From a forecasting point of view, the canvas may  already be changing as to why
bying the &quot;warm card&quot; on any seasonal forecast is no longer the way to go.

ciao
JB

Keep up the outstanding work
JB

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Hi Joe,
 
I appreciate the kind words, and yes, I agree with your views.
 
Agriculture will crash before they have time to develop colder weather crops. California in particular will suffer due to the warm wave that ag here has been riding since the last PDO flip. All those vineyards in palces you couldn&#039;t grow grapes before - gone. France may return as king wine.
 
- Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, Bastardi  here.</p>
<p>Ever feel like the  debate is over,  but not the way Al Gore  feels it is , BUT THE OPPOSITE WAY.<br />
I respect the work at Scripps and see their points, but  to me its ice, not fire,  that<br />
will be the big problem within  50 years</p>
<p>There is something I call the triple crown of cooling  that I fear more than<br />
than the increasinly  obvious trumped up spectre of global warming.  I suspect the first part,(1) the natural snapback of the earth has already started  ( absent  any increase in<br />
non earthly variables, ie  things not produced by the earth  directly or indirectly, the set temp of the earth<br />
is always  strived for by the earth&#8230;.the warmer it gets, the more likely it is to turn colder and vice versa given all  outside influences remain at a steady state)<br />
However combine this with   (2)  what appears to be steady evidence that we are heading into a long term overall minimum of sunspot activity in these  11 year cycles similar to previous  cooling period mins   and  (3)  the wild card of increased volcanism, it would appears that there is as much or more of a threat from the exact<br />
oppsite  of what  is beting touted in the media.</p>
<p>What is the over and under on  time  it takes for them to realize this and tell us we are going to perish for the reasons they were screaming in the 70s. You are out west, perhaps  you can get Las Vegas to set  odds  (lol&#8230;though its not that funny)</p>
<p>From a forecasting point of view, the canvas may  already be changing as to why<br />
bying the &#8220;warm card&#8221; on any seasonal forecast is no longer the way to go.</p>
<p>ciao<br />
JB</p>
<p>Keep up the outstanding work<br />
JB</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Hi Joe,</p>
<p>I appreciate the kind words, and yes, I agree with your views.</p>
<p>Agriculture will crash before they have time to develop colder weather crops. California in particular will suffer due to the warm wave that ag here has been riding since the last PDO flip. All those vineyards in palces you couldn&#8217;t grow grapes before &#8211; gone. France may return as king wine.</p>
<p>- Anthony</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

