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		<title>By: Blog de Astronomia do astroPT &#187; NASA admite problemas no Sol?</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/14/ulysses-exits-with-insight-into-our-next-solar-cycle/#comment-41465</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blog de Astronomia do astroPT &#187; NASA admite problemas no Sol?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] no ciclo solar, levando a um abrandamento de actividade solar. Uns dias depois, dados da sonda Ulysses apontavam no mesmo sentido. Isto levou logo algumas pessoas a reavivarem as profecias que apontam [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] no ciclo solar, levando a um abrandamento de actividade solar. Uns dias depois, dados da sonda Ulysses apontavam no mesmo sentido. Isto levou logo algumas pessoas a reavivarem as profecias que apontam [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NEWS: NASA to hold press conference on the state of the sun &#8211; Don&#8217;t Look Here</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/14/ulysses-exits-with-insight-into-our-next-solar-cycle/#comment-41166</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NEWS: NASA to hold press conference on the state of the sun &#8211; Don&#8217;t Look Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] you may recall, I posted an entry about the Ulysses mission back on June 16th and the findings of a lowered magnetic field in the sun, from the JPL press [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you may recall, I posted an entry about the Ulysses mission back on June 16th and the findings of a lowered magnetic field in the sun, from the JPL press [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gerry brown</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/14/ulysses-exits-with-insight-into-our-next-solar-cycle/#comment-19703</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gerry brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Ulysses craft performed 10 separate measurements during its circuits of the Sun. Where are the other data? Anyone know? -]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ulysses craft performed 10 separate measurements during its circuits of the Sun. Where are the other data? Anyone know? -</p>
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		<title>By: Yorick</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/14/ulysses-exits-with-insight-into-our-next-solar-cycle/#comment-19405</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yorick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trick is to not get the solar physicists conflated with the observational denialists in the warming community.

I agree with Lief that the sun is going according to prediction. What remains to be seen is whether the planet continues cool, as it should according to other longstanding predictions (see Svensmark and others), or if global warming returns, as, I suspect, Lief expects. 

It is not a small point that cooling began a decade ago, even throwing out &#039;98 as your benchmark, but it suggests that climate sensitivity to CO2 is smaller than the alarmists have been letting on if it can be overcome by &quot;insignificant&quot; changes in solar output.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trick is to not get the solar physicists conflated with the observational denialists in the warming community.</p>
<p>I agree with Lief that the sun is going according to prediction. What remains to be seen is whether the planet continues cool, as it should according to other longstanding predictions (see Svensmark and others), or if global warming returns, as, I suspect, Lief expects. </p>
<p>It is not a small point that cooling began a decade ago, even throwing out &#8217;98 as your benchmark, but it suggests that climate sensitivity to CO2 is smaller than the alarmists have been letting on if it can be overcome by &#8220;insignificant&#8221; changes in solar output.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Gulrud</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Gulrud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;we predict that the approaching solar
cycle 24 (2011 maximum) will have a peak smoothed
monthly sunspot number of 75 ± 8,&quot;

The cut for grades of A has not been established as yet, but this is looking rather like a B+ or lower, grading on a curve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we predict that the approaching solar<br />
cycle 24 (2011 maximum) will have a peak smoothed<br />
monthly sunspot number of 75 ± 8,&#8221;</p>
<p>The cut for grades of A has not been established as yet, but this is looking rather like a B+ or lower, grading on a curve.</p>
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		<title>By: ulrich lobsiger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ulrich lobsiger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Pierre Gosselin said: “Here this graphic shows the Arctic was warmer back in     1930-49 than it was in 1990-2007.”

Hey Pierre, is there an English version somewhere? - Jack Koenig, Editor&quot;

that German link cited by Pierre leads to an English site by Dr. Arnd Bernaerts, offering a completely different explanation of Arctic Warming: changing the heat capacity relationships between ocean water and air through Naval warfare activities...  has anybody followed this extensive trail?

www.arctic-warming.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pierre Gosselin said: “Here this graphic shows the Arctic was warmer back in     1930-49 than it was in 1990-2007.”</p>
<p>Hey Pierre, is there an English version somewhere? &#8211; Jack Koenig, Editor&#8221;</p>
<p>that German link cited by Pierre leads to an English site by Dr. Arnd Bernaerts, offering a completely different explanation of Arctic Warming: changing the heat capacity relationships between ocean water and air through Naval warfare activities&#8230;  has anybody followed this extensive trail?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.arctic-warming.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.arctic-warming.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leif Svalgaard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leif Svalgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As kim has noted, the Ulysses measurement was predicted by me. In our solar cycle 24 prediction paper http://www.leif.org/research/Cycle%2024%20Smallest%20100%20years.pdf submitted back in 2004 we concluded:
&lt;i&gt;With weaker polar fields, the interplanetary magnetic fields that the Ulysses space probe will measure during its next polar passes in 2007–2008 are therefore expected to be significantly lower than during the 1994–1995 polar passes.&lt;/i&gt;
No no surprise, things just going according to plan :-) 
It likely means that solar cycle 24 will be a small cycle. But, this was already known. Ulysses does not bring anything new to that table as the polar fields have been measured directly in real time since 1976 and therefore were available in 2004 [and now for that matter]. In the last three years they have not changed significantly and thus still predict a small cycle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As kim has noted, the Ulysses measurement was predicted by me. In our solar cycle 24 prediction paper <a href="http://www.leif.org/research/Cycle%2024%20Smallest%20100%20years.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.leif.org/research/Cycle%2024%20Smallest%20100%20years.pdf</a> submitted back in 2004 we concluded:<br />
<i>With weaker polar fields, the interplanetary magnetic fields that the Ulysses space probe will measure during its next polar passes in 2007–2008 are therefore expected to be significantly lower than during the 1994–1995 polar passes.</i><br />
No no surprise, things just going according to plan :-)<br />
It likely means that solar cycle 24 will be a small cycle. But, this was already known. Ulysses does not bring anything new to that table as the polar fields have been measured directly in real time since 1976 and therefore were available in 2004 [and now for that matter]. In the last three years they have not changed significantly and thus still predict a small cycle.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  Ulysses exits with insight into our next solar cycle &#8220;Ulysses ends its career after revealing that the magnetic field emanating from the sun&#8217;s poles is much [...] [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: mooregroup</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mooregroup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Timely post given that it&#039;s Bloomsday!

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; I had to look this one up. - Anthony

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsday

&lt;em&gt;The day involves a range of cultural activities including Ulysses readings and dramatisations, pub crawls and general merriment, much of it hosted by the James Joyce Centre in North Great George&#039;s Street. (in Dublin)&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timely post given that it&#8217;s Bloomsday!</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> I had to look this one up. &#8211; Anthony</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsday" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsday</a></p>
<p><em>The day involves a range of cultural activities including Ulysses readings and dramatisations, pub crawls and general merriment, much of it hosted by the James Joyce Centre in North Great George&#8217;s Street. (in Dublin)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Cover story &#171; Skunks&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cover story &#171; Skunks&#8217;s Weblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Cover&#160;story  15 06 2008   Ulysses exits with insight into our next solar cycle [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: poetSam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[poetSam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NASA&#039;s real mission is to provide high paying jobs to keep property taxes up.

But what&#039;s new?

I tell you it&#039;s treason
to give the real reasons.
It&#039;s always been so
so the sheep will not know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA&#8217;s real mission is to provide high paying jobs to keep property taxes up.</p>
<p>But what&#8217;s new?</p>
<p>I tell you it&#8217;s treason<br />
to give the real reasons.<br />
It&#8217;s always been so<br />
so the sheep will not know.</p>
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		<title>By: More Signs of the Sun Slowing Down &#171; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/14/ulysses-exits-with-insight-into-our-next-solar-cycle/#comment-19265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More Signs of the Sun Slowing Down &#171; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Signs of the Sun Slowing&#160;Down  15 06 2008   In my post from yesterday, I highlighted a paragraph from a NASA press release which touched on one of the final findings of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Signs of the Sun Slowing&nbsp;Down  15 06 2008   In my post from yesterday, I highlighted a paragraph from a NASA press release which touched on one of the final findings of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: McGrats</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McGrats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pierre Gosselin said: &quot;Here this graphic shows the Arctic was warmer back in 1930-49 than it was in 1990-2007.&quot;

Hey Pierre, is there an English version somewhere?

Jack Koenig, Editor
The Mysterious Climate Project
www.climateclinic.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pierre Gosselin said: &#8220;Here this graphic shows the Arctic was warmer back in 1930-49 than it was in 1990-2007.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey Pierre, is there an English version somewhere?</p>
<p>Jack Koenig, Editor<br />
The Mysterious Climate Project<br />
<a href="http://www.climateclinic.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateclinic.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: DAV</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DAV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;IMO this is NASA’s real mission.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Naw! NASA&#039;s &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; mission is to provide and build neat toys for geeky engineers to play with. I know cause I work there. Here&#039;s the signature I use at the photography site I habituate (I worked on the IRAC instrument on Sptizer nee SIRTF).

&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m a toymaker. Here&#039;s an image from one of my toys.
http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/image_galleries/legacy/spitzer_M51/thumb.jpg&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>IMO this is NASA’s real mission.</p></blockquote>
<p>Naw! NASA&#8217;s <i>real</i> mission is to provide and build neat toys for geeky engineers to play with. I know cause I work there. Here&#8217;s the signature I use at the photography site I habituate (I worked on the IRAC instrument on Sptizer nee SIRTF).</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m a toymaker. Here&#8217;s an image from one of my toys.<br />
<a href="http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/image_galleries/legacy/spitzer_M51/thumb.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/image_galleries/legacy/spitzer_M51/thumb.jpg</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Steve Hempell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Hempell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony

Where do you get the data for the graph?  I can&#039;t seem to find it on the web or your site, but it seems up to date.  Would like to track it and play with it.

Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony</p>
<p>Where do you get the data for the graph?  I can&#8217;t seem to find it on the web or your site, but it seems up to date.  Would like to track it and play with it.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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