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		<title>By: Gary Gulrud</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19785</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Gulrud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Off topic but Chaiten, following a couple weeks sub-plinian, seemed yesterday to be ramping back up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic but Chaiten, following a couple weeks sub-plinian, seemed yesterday to be ramping back up.</p>
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		<title>By: poetSam</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19615</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could it be .....  Satan (echo)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it be &#8230;..  Satan (echo)</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The way i heard it, he had thirty horses shot out from under him and killed 31 men hand to hand. 

He later commented, &quot;I was a horse ahead.&quot;

(BTW, I did a writeup on him on one of those cards you have, Rev.)

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Those playing cards are way cool, thanks again. Which makes me think, maybe we should make up a set for the top climate alarmists.

The question: who is the Ace of Spades?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way i heard it, he had thirty horses shot out from under him and killed 31 men hand to hand. </p>
<p>He later commented, &#8220;I was a horse ahead.&#8221;</p>
<p>(BTW, I did a writeup on him on one of those cards you have, Rev.)</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Those playing cards are way cool, thanks again. Which makes me think, maybe we should make up a set for the top climate alarmists.</p>
<p>The question: who is the Ace of Spades?</p>
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		<title>By: poetSam</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19577</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, this is from memory but here goes:

His future wife and her mother were leaving church in a buggy and got stuck in a creek bed.  3 or four naves surrounded the carriage and mocked their situation without helping.  Nathan came up and beat the tar out of them and got them unstuck.

In the war, I read he had 27 (28?) horses shot out from under him.

&lt;i&gt;He gave them yankees hell
and if they were damned,
he sent them there as well.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is from memory but here goes:</p>
<p>His future wife and her mother were leaving church in a buggy and got stuck in a creek bed.  3 or four naves surrounded the carriage and mocked their situation without helping.  Nathan came up and beat the tar out of them and got them unstuck.</p>
<p>In the war, I read he had 27 (28?) horses shot out from under him.</p>
<p><i>He gave them yankees hell<br />
and if they were damned,<br />
he sent them there as well.</i><i></i></p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, all I know is that it was almost two decades before the war, and her father initially refused to grant permission for the marriage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, all I know is that it was almost two decades before the war, and her father initially refused to grant permission for the marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: poetSam</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evan,

I have heard of John Brown&#039;s Body recently so this is a coincidence.

Have you heard the story of how N.B. Forest met his future wife?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan,</p>
<p>I have heard of John Brown&#8217;s Body recently so this is a coincidence.</p>
<p>Have you heard the story of how N.B. Forest met his future wife?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19498</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ngs: I also concede there are many who disagree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ngs: I also concede there are many who disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19496</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PoetSam

Have you ever read John Brown&#039;s Body? (It&#039;s the whole Civil War via poetry by Stephen Vincent Benet.)

&lt;cite&gt;Can we use a different acronym for the Civil War? I got old man eyes and you are really flustering the moderator.&lt;/cite&gt;

Oh, I get it! ACW/AGW! Sorry about that!

It&#039;s wargamers&#039; lingo.  That&#039;s how we speak on ConSimWorld.

As a designer of a Civil War game (with full storyboard from start to finish), I have been around the park twice or once on the arguments.

I have two huge boxes of all sorts of books on the subject. (Or is it three?) I can rattle off all the Confederate corps commanders and the Union army commanders by rote. Most of the southern divisional commanders and Union corps commanders, to boot.

Yes, I concede the cost was enormous. Yes I agree that the war itself and the aftermath were truly miserably handled. But worth it in spite of that. YMMV!

I  don&#039;t take the &quot;politically correct&quot; view of the south-as-worse-than-Hitler. 
But make mine &quot;the Flag With 34 Stars&quot; so far as 1861-3 is concerned.

http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/FLAGS/us-1861.html

I have in fact gotten a little wargame weary on the subject over the past few years, so I will be happy simply  to agree to disagree . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PoetSam</p>
<p>Have you ever read John Brown&#8217;s Body? (It&#8217;s the whole Civil War via poetry by Stephen Vincent Benet.)</p>
<p><cite>Can we use a different acronym for the Civil War? I got old man eyes and you are really flustering the moderator.</cite></p>
<p>Oh, I get it! ACW/AGW! Sorry about that!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s wargamers&#8217; lingo.  That&#8217;s how we speak on ConSimWorld.</p>
<p>As a designer of a Civil War game (with full storyboard from start to finish), I have been around the park twice or once on the arguments.</p>
<p>I have two huge boxes of all sorts of books on the subject. (Or is it three?) I can rattle off all the Confederate corps commanders and the Union army commanders by rote. Most of the southern divisional commanders and Union corps commanders, to boot.</p>
<p>Yes, I concede the cost was enormous. Yes I agree that the war itself and the aftermath were truly miserably handled. But worth it in spite of that. YMMV!</p>
<p>I  don&#8217;t take the &#8220;politically correct&#8221; view of the south-as-worse-than-Hitler.<br />
But make mine &#8220;the Flag With 34 Stars&#8221; so far as 1861-3 is concerned.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/FLAGS/us-1861.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/FLAGS/us-1861.html</a></p>
<p>I have in fact gotten a little wargame weary on the subject over the past few years, so I will be happy simply  to agree to disagree . . .</p>
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		<title>By: nanny_govt_sucks</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19494</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evan,

There are many who disagree. Please see:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/civilwar.html

It would seem that the outrageous tariff was a larger and more immediate threat to the pocketbook of Southerners than a farther-off possibility of slavery dying out over many years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan,</p>
<p>There are many who disagree. Please see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/civilwar.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/civilwar.html</a></p>
<p>It would seem that the outrageous tariff was a larger and more immediate threat to the pocketbook of Southerners than a farther-off possibility of slavery dying out over many years.</p>
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		<title>By: jeeztheadmin</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeeztheadmin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dad! He started it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dad! He started it!</p>
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		<title>By: wattsupwiththat</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19488</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m full up on poetry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m full up on poetry.</p>
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		<title>By: jeeztheadmin</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19487</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeeztheadmin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I fight my way through the visual fog,
I pause and self censor.
For any proper response I consider,
is not proper fodder for a family blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I fight my way through the visual fog,<br />
I pause and self censor.<br />
For any proper response I consider,<br />
is not proper fodder for a family blog.</p>
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		<title>By: poetSam</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[poetSam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;jeez, those old man eyes are hell.
I should have listened to those old wive tales.

(poetSam has left this land
he&#039;ll say no more,
he&#039;s out the door)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>jeez, those old man eyes are hell.<br />
I should have listened to those old wive tales.</p>
<p>(poetSam has left this land<br />
he&#8217;ll say no more,<br />
he&#8217;s out the door)</i><i></i></p>
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		<title>By: jeeztheadmin</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19484</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeeztheadmin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can we use a different acronym for the Civil War? I got old man eyes and you are really flustering the moderator. 

I see ACW was &quot;all about slavery&quot; and that&#039;s really confusing in this particular blog space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we use a different acronym for the Civil War? I got old man eyes and you are really flustering the moderator. </p>
<p>I see ACW was &#8220;all about slavery&#8221; and that&#8217;s really confusing in this particular blog space.</p>
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		<title>By: poetSam</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/13/june-14th/#comment-19483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[poetSam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Let&#039;s not fight  &quot;Civil War II&quot;,
my side gray and your side blue.
Not till we deal with the global alarmists.
Then we can fight
(unless they disarm us).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Let&#8217;s not fight  &#8220;Civil War II&#8221;,<br />
my side gray and your side blue.<br />
Not till we deal with the global alarmists.<br />
Then we can fight<br />
(unless they disarm us).</i><i></i></p>
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