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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/29/surprise-un-carbon-credits-being-abused/#comment-30773</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smokey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, &lt;b&gt;Aileni Noyle&lt;/b&gt;, for that typically ridiculous pro-AGW link. Something to laugh at:

&lt;blockquote&gt;US firm Climos plans to seed the ocean with iron particles. This will encourage the development of phytoplankton, it says, which carry large amounts of carbon to the ocean floor when they die. The company hopes to turn a profit by selling carbon credits.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, <b>Aileni Noyle</b>, for that typically ridiculous pro-AGW link. Something to laugh at:</p>
<blockquote><p>US firm Climos plans to seed the ocean with iron particles. This will encourage the development of phytoplankton, it says, which carry large amounts of carbon to the ocean floor when they die. The company hopes to turn a profit by selling carbon credits.</p></blockquote>
<p>Last sentence says it all.</p>
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		<title>By: leebert</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/29/surprise-un-carbon-credits-being-abused/#comment-16152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leebert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom in Fla.... sorry, I&#039;m irony impaired as of late. Plus you forgot to put a smiley or some other hint. We get some really nuts here, didn&#039;t know your byline. 

As for the NYC UN building, tough choice. Seal all of them in? Let them all implode in Brussels along with the EU? Or should we keep them close to us where we can watch them better? 

Tough call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom in Fla&#8230;. sorry, I&#8217;m irony impaired as of late. Plus you forgot to put a smiley or some other hint. We get some really nuts here, didn&#8217;t know your byline. </p>
<p>As for the NYC UN building, tough choice. Seal all of them in? Let them all implode in Brussels along with the EU? Or should we keep them close to us where we can watch them better? </p>
<p>Tough call.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom in Florida</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom in Florida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[leebert and McGrats:

Come on guys (or gals).  Are you kidding me? &quot;duly elected by the people of Earth in an open and verified world wide election&quot; Of course I was jesting!! That was the point, none of them are elected by any of us to do anything for us. So why do we even give a sh.. about what they say? If I were in a position to do so, I would pull the US out of the UN and ignore them.  I would close down the UN building in NY, never put another dime into it, send them all to France and let them squel and shout all they want.  I would encourage England, Austraila and Japan to do the same and then watch that organization cave in on itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leebert and McGrats:</p>
<p>Come on guys (or gals).  Are you kidding me? &#8220;duly elected by the people of Earth in an open and verified world wide election&#8221; Of course I was jesting!! That was the point, none of them are elected by any of us to do anything for us. So why do we even give a sh.. about what they say? If I were in a position to do so, I would pull the US out of the UN and ignore them.  I would close down the UN building in NY, never put another dime into it, send them all to France and let them squel and shout all they want.  I would encourage England, Austraila and Japan to do the same and then watch that organization cave in on itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G (Michigan)</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/29/surprise-un-carbon-credits-being-abused/#comment-16138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike G (Michigan)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have quite a few new maple trees in my yard (I do every Spring because of the mature maple trees I already have there). Can I sell carbon credits for the CO2 they are using up? Sounds like a great way to make money by doing nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have quite a few new maple trees in my yard (I do every Spring because of the mature maple trees I already have there). Can I sell carbon credits for the CO2 they are using up? Sounds like a great way to make money by doing nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Gulrud</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/29/surprise-un-carbon-credits-being-abused/#comment-16129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Gulrud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting further British commentary:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1808242,00.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting further British commentary:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1808242,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1808242,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aileni Noyle</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/29/surprise-un-carbon-credits-being-abused/#comment-16117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aileni Noyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry - http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/may/29/greentech.geoengineering]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/may/29/greentech.geoengineering" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/may/29/greentech.geoengineering</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aileni Noyle</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/29/surprise-un-carbon-credits-being-abused/#comment-16115</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aileni Noyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Further to Steve Sadlov - I haven&#039;t yet seen anyone pick up on this:
&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to Steve Sadlov &#8211; I haven&#8217;t yet seen anyone pick up on this:<br />
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		<title>By: McGrats</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/29/surprise-un-carbon-credits-being-abused/#comment-16114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McGrats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom in Florida wrote: &quot;I do not think everyone should be so hard on the UN. After all, they have been duly elected by the people of Earth in an open and verified world wide election.&quot;

Tom, you are jesting, of course! The UN delegates, etc., are appointed by their respective governments. The bureaucrats that &quot;serve&quot; under them are simply a ragged bunch of relatives and other political parasites feeding at the trough. The committees and other such &quot;fact finding bodies&quot; are generally related to the &quot;diplomats&quot; and &quot;delegates,&quot; and once again are generally nothing more than parasites and misfits.

I&#039;m not too certain what&#039;s in the water you&#039;re drinking, but Cutty Sark would be much better... straight or on the rocks.

Jack Koenig, Editor
The Mysterious Climate Project
www.climateclinic.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom in Florida wrote: &#8220;I do not think everyone should be so hard on the UN. After all, they have been duly elected by the people of Earth in an open and verified world wide election.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tom, you are jesting, of course! The UN delegates, etc., are appointed by their respective governments. The bureaucrats that &#8220;serve&#8221; under them are simply a ragged bunch of relatives and other political parasites feeding at the trough. The committees and other such &#8220;fact finding bodies&#8221; are generally related to the &#8220;diplomats&#8221; and &#8220;delegates,&#8221; and once again are generally nothing more than parasites and misfits.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not too certain what&#8217;s in the water you&#8217;re drinking, but Cutty Sark would be much better&#8230; straight or on the rocks.</p>
<p>Jack Koenig, Editor<br />
The Mysterious Climate Project<br />
<a href="http://www.climateclinic.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateclinic.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: leebert</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/29/surprise-un-carbon-credits-being-abused/#comment-16113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leebert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom in Florida, re: the U.N.:

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Tom in Florida&quot;&gt; They have taken an oath of service for our benefit. We should be greatful for their efforts and sacrifice on our behalf. They are all truly humble servants to all mankind. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Um. The U.N.? That despot&#039;s club composed of murderous and loathsome regimes intent on deception and cheating? The organization that sat Libya to oversee the human rights commission? The organization that routinely condemns Israel but has yet to condemn Sudan? The organization that never saw an ongoing genocide it never saw? The organization that missed the nuclear activities in N. Korea, demonstrated perfect obsequity to the ongoing deceptions of the Persians, forgot about both Saddam&#039;s &amp; Milosovic&#039;s 150 kilos (each) of eU232 and other errant WMDs in Iraq (like the unknown number of chemical artillery shells labeled as conventional ones) and generally serves as a conduit of money to unethical opportunists?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom in Florida, re: the U.N.:</p>
<blockquote cite="Tom in Florida"><p> They have taken an oath of service for our benefit. We should be greatful for their efforts and sacrifice on our behalf. They are all truly humble servants to all mankind. </p></blockquote>
<p>Um. The U.N.? That despot&#8217;s club composed of murderous and loathsome regimes intent on deception and cheating? The organization that sat Libya to oversee the human rights commission? The organization that routinely condemns Israel but has yet to condemn Sudan? The organization that never saw an ongoing genocide it never saw? The organization that missed the nuclear activities in N. Korea, demonstrated perfect obsequity to the ongoing deceptions of the Persians, forgot about both Saddam&#8217;s &amp; Milosovic&#8217;s 150 kilos (each) of eU232 and other errant WMDs in Iraq (like the unknown number of chemical artillery shells labeled as conventional ones) and generally serves as a conduit of money to unethical opportunists?</p>
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		<title>By: leebert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leebert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[old construction worker:

It&#039;s a gold rush. 

If everything causes global warming, then everybody&#039;s entitled to selling carbon credits. 

So I guess that means that people who lose weight could sell carbon credits, people who burn trees making biochar (a carbon-absorbing anaerobic catalysis charcoal process) could sell carbon credits, and and car restorers could sell carbon credits (hey, all that manufacturing energy is being sequestered into a cool old ride) ... gosh, there must be a long list of human activities that would bring entitlement! 

Heck people who commit suicide or mass murder could sell carbon credits. The next Pol Pot could be a CO2 superstar!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>old construction worker:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a gold rush. </p>
<p>If everything causes global warming, then everybody&#8217;s entitled to selling carbon credits. </p>
<p>So I guess that means that people who lose weight could sell carbon credits, people who burn trees making biochar (a carbon-absorbing anaerobic catalysis charcoal process) could sell carbon credits, and and car restorers could sell carbon credits (hey, all that manufacturing energy is being sequestered into a cool old ride) &#8230; gosh, there must be a long list of human activities that would bring entitlement! </p>
<p>Heck people who commit suicide or mass murder could sell carbon credits. The next Pol Pot could be a CO2 superstar!</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 12:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Dune]Frauds within frauds . . .[/Dune]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Dune]Frauds within frauds . . .[/Dune]</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 12:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;The UN had to figure out a way to make up for the loss of funding from the dismantling of the ‘Food for Oil’ program.&lt;/cite&gt;

Jacques! Jacques! Jacques Chriac!
How Many Kids Did You Starve In Iraq?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>The UN had to figure out a way to make up for the loss of funding from the dismantling of the ‘Food for Oil’ program.</cite></p>
<p>Jacques! Jacques! Jacques Chriac!<br />
How Many Kids Did You Starve In Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 12:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One third to two thirds being abused? 

Wow. 

That&#039;s &#039;WAY better than average for th UN!

&lt;cite&lt;But it turns out that in reality most of the funds go to coal and oil companies,

So it turns out that the way to save the oil companies is to get the UN to declare ware on them. (Well, it makes perfect sense, come to think of it.) I wish &lt;cite&gt;I&lt;/cite&gt; had thought of that!

&lt;cite&gt;If the scheme operated in any way realistically, we’d see a much smaller market, they say cautioning that there’s hardly enough clean air available for the demand that will build up in the near future.&lt;/cite&gt;

Gosh, when I was yammering on about how they were plotting strangle the golden goose, I thought I was speaking &lt;cite&gt;figuratively,&lt;/cite&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One third to two thirds being abused? </p>
<p>Wow. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s &#8216;WAY better than average for th UN!</p>
<p>&lt;cite&lt;But it turns out that in reality most of the funds go to coal and oil companies,</p>
<p>So it turns out that the way to save the oil companies is to get the UN to declare ware on them. (Well, it makes perfect sense, come to think of it.) I wish <cite>I</cite> had thought of that!</p>
<p><cite>If the scheme operated in any way realistically, we’d see a much smaller market, they say cautioning that there’s hardly enough clean air available for the demand that will build up in the near future.</cite></p>
<p>Gosh, when I was yammering on about how they were plotting strangle the golden goose, I thought I was speaking <cite>figuratively,</cite></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 09:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SteveSadlov:  What&#039;s the problem with no-till farming?  As I understand it (from a Permculture course a while back) it&#039;s a localised practice that conserves moisture and soils - not something you&#039;d mention in the same breath as massive chemical intervention in the oceans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveSadlov:  What&#8217;s the problem with no-till farming?  As I understand it (from a Permculture course a while back) it&#8217;s a localised practice that conserves moisture and soils &#8211; not something you&#8217;d mention in the same breath as massive chemical intervention in the oceans.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Carr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 05:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;crosspatch&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;Rather than building models and attempting to forecast what the climate will do if you double CO2, why don’t they simply look back into time...&lt;/i&gt;
Memory says this has been done, and done again, but discounted because it ran against the current agenda.  Same with C02 following, not leading, warming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>crosspatch</b> <i>Rather than building models and attempting to forecast what the climate will do if you double CO2, why don’t they simply look back into time&#8230;</i><br />
Memory says this has been done, and done again, but discounted because it ran against the current agenda.  Same with C02 following, not leading, warming.</p>
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