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		<title>By: Ric Werme</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ric Werme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/outlooks/hurricane.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NOAA&#039;s Atlantic Hurricane season forecast&lt;/a&gt; issued on May 22.  I&#039;m not real fond of theirs as they have a marvelously vague patina.  E.g. the report says &quot;The Climate Prediction Center’s 2008 Atlantic Hurricane Season Outlook calls a 90% probability of a near-normal or above-normal hurricane season.&quot;  If they only added below normal, they could claim 100%.  The Klotzbach/Gray forecasts emphsize the expected numbers, not the error bars, and are more interesting reading to boot.  NOAA seems to want to take some of the wind from the sails and posts their forecasts a few days earlier than Kotzbach/Gray.

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1. Expected 2008 Activity

This Outlook is a general guide to the expected overall activity for the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season. It is not a seasonal hurricane landfall forecast, and it does not imply levels of activity for any particular area

The expected conditions during the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season are related to two main climate signals: 1) the continuation of conditions (called the multi-decadal signal) that have been conducive to above-normal Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995 , including above-normal sea-surface temperatures in the eastern tropical Atlantic Ocean, and 2) a possible La Niña influence or ENSO-neutral conditions during the peak months (August-October) of the season.

Historically, seasons with climate patterns similar to those expected this year have produced a wide range of activity, and have been associated with both near-normal and above-normal seasons. This outlook considers the historical distribution of activity for these climate factors, uncertainties in the La Niña impacts, and the possibility of other unpredictable factors also influencing the season. Based on these factors, we estimate a 90% chance of a near-normal to above-normal 2008 Atlantic hurricane season. While an above-normal season is most likely (65% chance), there is a significant 25% chance of a near-normal season and a 10% chance of a below-normal season. See NOAA definitions of above-, near-, and below-normal seasons.

An important measure of the total seasonal activity is NOAA’s Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) index, which accounts for the collective intensity and duration of named storms and hurricanes during the season. Based on the above factors, we estimate a 60%-70% chance the 2008 seasonal ACE range will be 100%-210% of the median. This range can be satisfied even if the numbers of named storms, hurricanes, or major hurricanes fall outside their likely ranges. If La Niña persists, the probability increases that the activity could be at or above the high end of the indicated ACE range.

The likely (60%-70% chance) ranges of activity for 2008 (each of which is seen in about two-thirds of similar seasons in the historical record): are 12-16 Named Storms, 6-9 Hurricanes, and 2-5 Major Hurricanes. Most of this activity is expected during August through October, the peak months of the Atlantic hurricane season.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is <a href="http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/outlooks/hurricane.shtml" rel="nofollow">NOAA&#8217;s Atlantic Hurricane season forecast</a> issued on May 22.  I&#8217;m not real fond of theirs as they have a marvelously vague patina.  E.g. the report says &#8220;The Climate Prediction Center’s 2008 Atlantic Hurricane Season Outlook calls a 90% probability of a near-normal or above-normal hurricane season.&#8221;  If they only added below normal, they could claim 100%.  The Klotzbach/Gray forecasts emphsize the expected numbers, not the error bars, and are more interesting reading to boot.  NOAA seems to want to take some of the wind from the sails and posts their forecasts a few days earlier than Kotzbach/Gray.</p>
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1. Expected 2008 Activity</p>
<p>This Outlook is a general guide to the expected overall activity for the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season. It is not a seasonal hurricane landfall forecast, and it does not imply levels of activity for any particular area</p>
<p>The expected conditions during the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season are related to two main climate signals: 1) the continuation of conditions (called the multi-decadal signal) that have been conducive to above-normal Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995 , including above-normal sea-surface temperatures in the eastern tropical Atlantic Ocean, and 2) a possible La Niña influence or ENSO-neutral conditions during the peak months (August-October) of the season.</p>
<p>Historically, seasons with climate patterns similar to those expected this year have produced a wide range of activity, and have been associated with both near-normal and above-normal seasons. This outlook considers the historical distribution of activity for these climate factors, uncertainties in the La Niña impacts, and the possibility of other unpredictable factors also influencing the season. Based on these factors, we estimate a 90% chance of a near-normal to above-normal 2008 Atlantic hurricane season. While an above-normal season is most likely (65% chance), there is a significant 25% chance of a near-normal season and a 10% chance of a below-normal season. See NOAA definitions of above-, near-, and below-normal seasons.</p>
<p>An important measure of the total seasonal activity is NOAA’s Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) index, which accounts for the collective intensity and duration of named storms and hurricanes during the season. Based on the above factors, we estimate a 60%-70% chance the 2008 seasonal ACE range will be 100%-210% of the median. This range can be satisfied even if the numbers of named storms, hurricanes, or major hurricanes fall outside their likely ranges. If La Niña persists, the probability increases that the activity could be at or above the high end of the indicated ACE range.</p>
<p>The likely (60%-70% chance) ranges of activity for 2008 (each of which is seen in about two-thirds of similar seasons in the historical record): are 12-16 Named Storms, 6-9 Hurricanes, and 2-5 Major Hurricanes. Most of this activity is expected during August through October, the peak months of the Atlantic hurricane season.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15518</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good news for the West coast is bad news for the East. It&#039;s pretty well known that the total number of hurricanes in the Atlantic and Pacific basins is usual close to the same number each year. Active Pacific=InActive Atlantic. And vice-versa...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news for the West coast is bad news for the East. It&#8217;s pretty well known that the total number of hurricanes in the Atlantic and Pacific basins is usual close to the same number each year. Active Pacific=InActive Atlantic. And vice-versa&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dell</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given the record over the past several years, I&#039;ld be worried this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the record over the past several years, I&#8217;ld be worried this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric Werme</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15487</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ric Werme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don B (14:14:06) :

&quot;In contrast to NOAA’s prediction, Colorado State’s Klotzbach and Gray forecast an above average hurricane season for the East Coast.&quot;

NOAA&#039;s prediction, at least in the context of this post was for the Pacific East Coast, not the Atlantic.

I don&#039;t know beans about the Pacific, but I&#039;d assume that a negative PDO with its cold current along the coast would make life challenging for eastern Pacific storms.  The main connecton between the Pacific Ocean and the Atlantic Hurricanes is that La Nina is associated with less vertical shear, and TCs can&#039;t handle shear.  El Ninos bring shear, and a developing El Nino can clobber a hurricane season.

The Klotzbach/Gray forecast in April used a new forecasting scheme they say worked much better in hindcasting.  Their next update will be on June 3rd.  It will be interesting to see if the negative PDO has impacts beyond the prevalence of fewer El Ninos and more  La Ninas.

One thing I like about their forecasts and season review is their openness when things go wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don B (14:14:06) :</p>
<p>&#8220;In contrast to NOAA’s prediction, Colorado State’s Klotzbach and Gray forecast an above average hurricane season for the East Coast.&#8221;</p>
<p>NOAA&#8217;s prediction, at least in the context of this post was for the Pacific East Coast, not the Atlantic.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know beans about the Pacific, but I&#8217;d assume that a negative PDO with its cold current along the coast would make life challenging for eastern Pacific storms.  The main connecton between the Pacific Ocean and the Atlantic Hurricanes is that La Nina is associated with less vertical shear, and TCs can&#8217;t handle shear.  El Ninos bring shear, and a developing El Nino can clobber a hurricane season.</p>
<p>The Klotzbach/Gray forecast in April used a new forecasting scheme they say worked much better in hindcasting.  Their next update will be on June 3rd.  It will be interesting to see if the negative PDO has impacts beyond the prevalence of fewer El Ninos and more  La Ninas.</p>
<p>One thing I like about their forecasts and season review is their openness when things go wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Gosselin</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pierre Gosselin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Predicting the hurricane season is like predicting the earth&#039;s general climate in 50 years. Keep guessing and eventually you&#039;ll get lucky and get it right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Predicting the hurricane season is like predicting the earth&#8217;s general climate in 50 years. Keep guessing and eventually you&#8217;ll get lucky and get it right.</p>
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		<title>By: swampie</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15453</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[swampie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 02:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While it would make me very happy to have the same kind of hurricane season as last year, we Floridians do need to have the tropical rains that the storms bring.  I&#039;m hoping for depressions.  I&#039;m sure Georgia would be right happy to see a nice tropical depression as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it would make me very happy to have the same kind of hurricane season as last year, we Floridians do need to have the tropical rains that the storms bring.  I&#8217;m hoping for depressions.  I&#8217;m sure Georgia would be right happy to see a nice tropical depression as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Don B</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In contrast to NOAA&#039;s prediction, Colorado State&#039;s Klotzbach and Gray forecast an above average hurricane season for the East Coast. Dr. Gray has been a leading hurricane expert for years, but has deferred to his associate as he spends more time on the global warming issue.

http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2008/april2008/apr2008.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In contrast to NOAA&#8217;s prediction, Colorado State&#8217;s Klotzbach and Gray forecast an above average hurricane season for the East Coast. Dr. Gray has been a leading hurricane expert for years, but has deferred to his associate as he spends more time on the global warming issue.</p>
<p><a href="http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2008/april2008/apr2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2008/april2008/apr2008.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Philip_B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip_B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 19:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The just ended SH cyclone season around Australia was the quietest in at least 20 years, after model predictions of a well above average season. Prediction was for 6+ landfalls. We got one, barely cat 1, storm.

The models were completely wrong, and we may well be seeing a cyclical decline in hurricane/cyclone frequency due to PDO, AMO, etc.

Note, hurricanes are called cyclones or tropical cyclones in the SH and tropics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The just ended SH cyclone season around Australia was the quietest in at least 20 years, after model predictions of a well above average season. Prediction was for 6+ landfalls. We got one, barely cat 1, storm.</p>
<p>The models were completely wrong, and we may well be seeing a cyclical decline in hurricane/cyclone frequency due to PDO, AMO, etc.</p>
<p>Note, hurricanes are called cyclones or tropical cyclones in the SH and tropics.</p>
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		<title>By: Klockarman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Klockarman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 19:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t they just stop issuing the forecasts?  Does anyone listen to them anymore?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t they just stop issuing the forecasts?  Does anyone listen to them anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Wondering Aloud</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wondering Aloud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 18:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Gary  

Based on the recent success rate of these predictions I think people should evacuate coastal areas at once.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Gary  </p>
<p>Based on the recent success rate of these predictions I think people should evacuate coastal areas at once.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvain</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sylvain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure it is good news considering that they over estimated the last 2 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure it is good news considering that they over estimated the last 2 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Gulrud</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Gulrud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[D&#039;Aleo on the subject if focussed more on Atlantic:

http://www.intellicast.com/Community/Content.aspx?a=129]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;Aleo on the subject if focussed more on Atlantic:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.intellicast.com/Community/Content.aspx?a=129" rel="nofollow">http://www.intellicast.com/Community/Content.aspx?a=129</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gary Gulrud</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/22/noaa-predicts-a-below-normal-eastern-pacific-hurricane-season/#comment-15383</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Gulrud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, I&#039;ll take the over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, I&#8217;ll take the over.</p>
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