All those who say based on science we should be experiencing colder weather this year. Guess what? We are!!!!

All those worried about the Polar Bears, don’t you worry. They didn’t go extinct last time it was this warm, you know 1100 years ago. And it is very possible the Northern Polar cap did a pretty good job of melting away those years as well. Bears are Omnivores, they’ll find food. Warm weather is good for the fish and the fish are eaten by seals and more seals means.. more chances for Bears to eat. Plus Polar Bear total population appears to be up, substantially. This sort of flies in the face of all of that worry. I’d worry more about hunters killing every large life form on Africa if I was you.

Global Warming is complete nonsense, not the fact that temperatures have moved around a bit, no, the fact that someone thinks its Mankind that’s done it. That’s the most unscientific conclusion I’ve ever seen. And no one can say I’m an oil company shill. I’d just as soon shoot those assholes on sight for the nonsense they’ve pulled in the last few years regarding the price and availability of their fine ‘products’.

A simple phrase to repeat to those who have caught the Global Warming Cult . “Its the sun you dummy.”
Its caused the ice ages and its caused the tropical ages. For those who care to look up this sort of thing look up ‘variable stars’. All of them are variable, some more then others, ours, not very much, but how much is really needed to change our temperature radically… not much.

When the third and fourth world develops (it is to be hoped without wiping out too many species) they will clean up their acts. We can and should help them in their development.

Then and ONLY then will extinctions cease. If we hold down the third and fourth world with burdensome regulations and lack of assistance, we will not only create a human tragedy but, in the long run, more environmental damage, not less.

Population is not the problem. We house a hundred where ten were housed before–and with far more elbow-room per individual. I live in a railroad flat slum designed for 16 people (c. 5 per room). Today it is illegal to occupy it with more than 5. A few blocks away, there is a mammoth high-rise that houses in comfort, thousands where a hundred were jam-packed together.
Besides, birthrates have plummeted since 1990.

And the club of Rome was dead wrong: resources are virtually unlimited (don’t get me started).

Killing (or half-strangling) the golden goose isn’t going to save the environment. It is a false choice. Only by petting and cosseting that goose will we get anywhere in longterm protection of endangered species.

That said, there is not the slightest evidence that climate change has caused any of the recent extinctions. They are mostly due to habitat destruction (usually deforestation) and introduction of alien predators or parasites. Indeed the biofuel hysteria will probably cause many more extinctions than any possible climate change.

Europe used to be one big forest. But not for many centuries . . .

Madeiran Large White, Pieris brassicae wollastoni, 29-30 October 2007

Western Black Rhinoceros, Diceros bicornis longipes, 8 June 2006

Po’o-uli, Melamprosops phaeosoma, 28 November 2004

Miss Waldron’s Red Colobus Monkey, Procolobus badius waldronae, 2000-2001

http://extinctanimals.petermaas.nl/

Pyrenean Ibex, Capra pyrenaica pyrenaica, 6 January 2000

http://www.iucnredlist.org/search/search.php?freetext=&modifier=phrase&criteria=wholedb&taxa_species=1&redlistCategory%5B0%5D=EX&country%5B0%5D=all&cty_default=1&aquatic%5B0%5D=all&aqu_default=1&regions%5B0%5D=all&reg_default=1&habitats%5B0%5D=all&threats%5B0%5D=all&redlistAssessyear%5B0%5D=all&growths%5B0%5D=all&extendedResults=0&terrestrial=0&marine=0&freshwater=0&sortorder%5B0%5D=spcscientificname&sortorder%5B1%5D=genname&sortorder%5B2%5D=spcname&sortorder%5B3%5D=spcauthor&sortorder%5B4%5D=spcinfrarank&sortorder%5B5%5D=spcinfraepithet&sortorder%5B6%5D=spcinfrarankauthor&sortorder%5B7%5D=spcstockname&sortorder%5B8%5D=comname_comp&sortorder%5B9%5D=rlcabb&sortorder%5B10%5D=rlscriteria&sortorder%5B11%5D=poptrend_code&sortorder%5B12%5D=rlcatcrit2001&sortorder%5B13%5D=rlscaveat&sortorder%5B14%5D=rlspetition&sortorder%5B15%5D=spcrecid&sortorder%5B16%5D=kingname&newsort=&debug=0&kingname=&phyname=&claname=&ordname=&famname=&genname=&spcname=&taxa_subspc=0&taxa_stock=0&cty_intro=0&cty_vagrant=0&cty_uncert=0&aqu_intro=0&aqu_vagrant=0&aqu_uncert=0&reg_intro=0&reg_vagrant=0&reg_uncert=0&spc_petition=0&spc_caveat=0&offset=0

There is no acceleration in recent decades.

Many of these went extinct decades or hundreds of years ago, not having anything to do with pogification or even industrialization. Hey Anthony, that’s another site for your reference list.

http://www.iucnredlist.org/search/search.php?freetext=&modifier=phrase&criteria=wholedb&taxa_species=1&redlistCategory%5B0%5D=EX&country%5B0%5D=all&cty_default=1&aquatic%5B0%5D=all&aqu_default=1&regions%5B0%5D=all&reg_default=1&habitats%5B0%5D=all&threats%5B0%5D=all&redlistAssessyear%5B0%5D=all&growths%5B0%5D=all&extendedResults=0&terrestrial=0&marine=0&freshwater=0&sortorder%5B0%5D=spcscientificname&sortorder%5B1%5D=genname&sortorder%5B2%5D=spcname&sortorder%5B3%5D=spcauthor&sortorder%5B4%5D=spcinfrarank&sortorder%5B5%5D=spcinfraepithet&sortorder%5B6%5D=spcinfrarankauthor&sortorder%5B7%5D=spcstockname&sortorder%5B8%5D=comname_comp&sortorder%5B9%5D=rlcabb&sortorder%5B10%5D=rlscriteria&sortorder%5B11%5D=poptrend_code&sortorder%5B12%5D=rlcatcrit2001&sortorder%5B13%5D=rlscaveat&sortorder%5B14%5D=rlspetition&sortorder%5B15%5D=spcrecid&sortorder%5B16%5D=kingname&newsort=&debug=0&kingname=&phyname=&claname=&ordname=&famname=&genname=&spcname=&taxa_subspc=0&taxa_stock=0&cty_intro=0&cty_vagrant=0&cty_uncert=0&aqu_intro=0&aqu_vagrant=0&aqu_uncert=0&reg_intro=0&reg_vagrant=0&reg_uncert=0&spc_petition=0&spc_caveat=0&offset=0

There is no acceleration in recent decades.

Many of these went extinct decades or hundreds of years ago, not having anything to do with pogification or even industrialization. Hey Anthony, that’s another site for your reference list.

A snapshot of current conditions is as follows:

After two centuries of decline, the area of US forestland stabilized in about 1920 and has since increased slightly. The forest area of the US is about two-thirds what it was in 1600.

The area consumed by wildfire each year has fallen 90 percent; it was between eight and twenty million hectares (20-50 million acres) in the early 1900s and is between one and two million hectares (2-5 million acres) today.

Forest growth nationally has exceeded harvest since the 1940s. By 1997 forest growth exceeded harvest by 42 percent and the volume of forest growth was 380 percent greater than it had been in 1920.

Nationally, the average standing wood volume per acre in US forests is about one-third greater today than in 1952; in the East, average volume per acre has almost doubled. About three-quarters of the volume increase is in broad leaved or deciduous trees.

Populations of many wildlife species have increased dramatically since 1900. But some species, especially some having specialized habitat conditions, remain the cause for concern.

Tree planting on all forestland rose dramatically after World War II, reaching record levels in the 1980s. Many private forestlands are now actively managed for tree growing and other values and uses.

Recreational use on national forests and other public and private forest lands has increased manyfold .
American society in the 20th century has changed from rural and agrarian to urban and industrialized.

This has caused a shift in the mix of uses and values the public seeks from its forests (particularly its pubic forests). Increased demands for recreation and protection of biodiversity are driving forest management. This has caused timber harvest from federal lands to decline by more than 60 percent since 1990. In spite of this shift, today’s urbanized nation is also placing record demands on its forests for timber production.

Being able to allow various species of animals to repopulate (because we don’t need them or their intended prey for food) and allowing land to return to timber because we don’t need the wood for our fireplaces or the fields to eke out a marginal existence is a luxury that only existed very recently in our history.

Climate change ‘to make Atlantic hurricanes rarer’

http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080516/full/news.2008.837.html

It isn’t quite “Warming will lead to cooling”, but that can’t be far behind.

Mike K, Would care to provide me massive list of recently extinct species?

On the day that all the data, algorithms, codes, and operating manuals are publicly disclosed for independent review, then one may call it science. Be it correct, incorrect, accurate, flawed, whatever.

But not until that happy day.

Until then it remains mere alchemy.