Comments on: Chaitén Volcano Blows Again

By: Luclog :: Chaitén :: May :: 2008

Luclog :: Chaitén :: May :: 2008 — Mon, 12 May 2008 15:37:43 +0000

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By: Raúl

Raúl — Fri, 09 May 2008 03:14:33 +0000

Hi everybody,

Below is a video with a thunderstorm in the volcano (move ahead up to 20 seconds).
(If I made any mistake inserting the video I will appreciate if anybody can help me to put in the rigth way)

By: juan

juan — Thu, 08 May 2008 23:30:47 +0000

es horrible… es horrible …

By: Gary Gulrud

Gary Gulrud — Thu, 08 May 2008 21:21:20 +0000

Jeff:
While no expert, I see no reason to dispute the 200M ton figure, perhaps even as an average. A VEI 6 eruption is due a couple/century, a VEI 7 due a couple/millenium.
Where they go wrong is using arithmetic and ‘sinks’ and balanced equations(a la chemical reactions), instead of fluences with Diff.Eq. in related-rate calculations. As Spencer pointed out, today’s AGW fluence is 1/24,000th that of Gaia.

By: MattN

MattN — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:04:24 +0000

Follow-up on what Philip_B said, others think a very large one is to follow: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7389682.stm

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:47:23 +0000

Well, based on this article,

http://www.hawaiinews.com/archives/volcano_watch/000440.shtml

the annual total of CO2 from all volcanoes is around 200 million tones, which is just slightly higher than Canada’s annual CO2 emissions. Now this article has a strong ‘warmie” bias, so, may or may not have the number accurate.

By: Philip_B

Philip_B — Thu, 08 May 2008 01:51:09 +0000

McGrats, you should remove the roof from your home, because there is simply no way you can be so clairvoyant as to be able to predict when it is going to rain.

By: forestermike

forestermike — Thu, 08 May 2008 01:37:11 +0000

I guess not!!!

By: forestermike

forestermike — Thu, 08 May 2008 01:36:41 +0000

Just testing my new wp account to see if the avatar works.

By: McGrats

McGrats — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:58:03 +0000

Philip B said: “A wider point is that were that to occur, then it would be a manmade disaster, because we failed to prepare for a predictable event. Just as the current cyclone disaster in Myanmar is largely manmade through failure to prepare.”

By extension, that seems to imply ALL disasters, past present, and future could be considered “man made.” IMHO, there’s simply no way man can be so clairvoyant as to be able to prepare for all disasters.

Jack Koenig, Editor
The Mysterious Climate Project
http://www.climateclinic.com

By: aaron

aaron — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:55:51 +0000

Thanks Gary. But I’m not quite sure what he’s measuring (and it’s just NH).

Anyone know where I can get data for estimates of CRF during the holocene? (want to compare to histogram of VEI > 4, VEI > 5, and VEI > 6)

By: Gary Gulrud

Gary Gulrud — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:10:31 +0000

Following James, the Yellowstone caldera, 70km wide, is our own monster-VEI 8-producing volcano. Residing above a Mantle hotspot it has moved as the continent has moved over the hot spot the last millions of years.
The mother of all calderas is Toba in Sumatra 200km wide.

By: Christopher

Christopher — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:57:54 +0000

Remember this guys this puppy been corked up for last 9 to 10 thousands years and thats a long time. Who knows how long this these eruptions will be going on for. Maybe until it empties itself out. I bet there is another big one going in weeks or days to come. This might shut up warmers for a while.

By: Philip_B

Philip_B — Wed, 07 May 2008 20:22:36 +0000

A couple of points.

Plinian volcanic eruptions end in a final large eruptive event. We don’t know how large and what the VEI number is until that event happens, which may be weeks or months away.

The long term effect of volcanos (of this size) on climate is not the issue. The issue is their effect over a one to two year time frame. And we know from the historical record that volcanic eruptions can cause widespread crop failure and famine.

A wider point is that were that to occur, then it would be a manmade disaster, because we failed to prepare for a predictable event. Just as the current cyclone disaster in Myanmar is largely manmade through failure to prepare.

By: Gary Gulrud

Gary Gulrud — Wed, 07 May 2008 20:15:49 +0000

aaron:

Kauffman was an organic chemist. Paper not indexed under his name:

http://nzclimatescience.net/images/PDFs/ccr.pdf