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	<title>Comments on: ABC Poll: GW rates a big fat zero</title>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/#comment-27305</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should all be grateful that Tuibguy is such a self abuser over AGW. It follows that little Tuibguys will not be following in his wayward thinking. How did he escape a meaningful education. I blame his parents that Tuibguy is so mentally challenged.  Still, there&#039;s nowt so queer as folk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should all be grateful that Tuibguy is such a self abuser over AGW. It follows that little Tuibguys will not be following in his wayward thinking. How did he escape a meaningful education. I blame his parents that Tuibguy is so mentally challenged.  Still, there&#8217;s nowt so queer as folk.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Warming: Mostly Hot Air &#171; The Global Warming Hoax</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/#comment-14769</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Warming: Mostly Hot Air &#171; The Global Warming Hoax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] threat of rising sea levels, Al has played all his cards. A recent ABC News/Washington Post [17] poll found that precisely zero per cent of Americans — yes, zero, that’s not a typo — rated global [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] threat of rising sea levels, Al has played all his cards. A recent ABC News/Washington Post [17] poll found that precisely zero per cent of Americans — yes, zero, that’s not a typo — rated global [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Conservative Christian Environmental Blog - 'Cause the World's Not Ours to Mess Up [Ps 24:1]</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/#comment-14757</link>
		<dc:creator>A Conservative Christian Environmental Blog - 'Cause the World's Not Ours to Mess Up [Ps 24:1]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A recent ABC News/Washington Post poll found that precisely zero per cent of Americans — yes, zero, that’s not a typo — rated global [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media &#187; Global Warming: Mostly Hot Air</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/#comment-14521</link>
		<dc:creator>Pajamas Media &#187; Global Warming: Mostly Hot Air</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 08:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the threat of rising sea levels, Al has played all his cards. A recent ABC News/Washington Post poll found that precisely zero per cent of Americans &#8212; yes, zero, that&#8217;s not a typo &#8212; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the threat of rising sea levels, Al has played all his cards. A recent ABC News/Washington Post poll found that precisely zero per cent of Americans &#8212; yes, zero, that&#8217;s not a typo &#8212; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Warming Dying Fast</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/#comment-13810</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Warming Dying Fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 03:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one noticing it.&#160;&#160;&#160; Add to that the news of a couple weeks back that no one in an ABC News poll of 1,197 US adults named Global Warming as an issue in this year&#8217;s elections.&#160; No one.&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one noticing it.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Add to that the news of a couple weeks back that no one in an ABC News poll of 1,197 US adults named Global Warming as an issue in this year&#8217;s elections.&nbsp; No one.&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Peden</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/#comment-12700</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Peden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuibguy is obviously a rote learner, not a cognitive thinker.  With this type of mind, repetition is the key to learning.

Let&#039;s try a different approach:

CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.

There, that should do it...

Jim Peden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuibguy is obviously a rote learner, not a cognitive thinker.  With this type of mind, repetition is the key to learning.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s try a different approach:</p>
<p>CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.<br />
CO2 lags, not leads, temperature.  The future does not influence the past.</p>
<p>There, that should do it&#8230;</p>
<p>Jim Peden</p>
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		<title>By: jcspe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcspe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See the 4/22/08 version of:

http://www.grimmy.com/comics.php

Cartoonists are never early to a party.  A cartoon like this one reflects an impression by the artist that a lot of people will be in tune to his sense of the ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the 4/22/08 version of:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.grimmy.com/comics.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.grimmy.com/comics.php</a></p>
<p>Cartoonists are never early to a party.  A cartoon like this one reflects an impression by the artist that a lot of people will be in tune to his sense of the ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny you should say that. I am currently working on it.</description>
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		<title>By: Not Deceived</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Deceived</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe people are starting to sense that the relentless &#039;climate campaign&#039; has very little to do with science but is actually being used to push a much deeper agenda. Being an Environmental Scientist myself the whole thing made no sense until I began to investigate where this phenomenon had come from, who was funding it, and what their motivation is. As bizarre and conspiratorial as this sounds it is the only logical explanation. We should fight them and condemn them with their own words. To that there is no defense.

http://www.green-agenda.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe people are starting to sense that the relentless &#8216;climate campaign&#8217; has very little to do with science but is actually being used to push a much deeper agenda. Being an Environmental Scientist myself the whole thing made no sense until I began to investigate where this phenomenon had come from, who was funding it, and what their motivation is. As bizarre and conspiratorial as this sounds it is the only logical explanation. We should fight them and condemn them with their own words. To that there is no defense.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.green-agenda.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.green-agenda.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/#comment-12399</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;it shows that CO2 levels can be thousands of times above today’s levels and average temperature of the planet never rises above 22C.&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;cite&gt;

Not thousands, but around 20 times. (385 ppm vs. 7000 ppm.).&lt;/cite&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>it shows that CO2 levels can be thousands of times above today’s levels and average temperature of the planet never rises above 22C.</cite><cite></p>
<p>Not thousands, but around 20 times. (385 ppm vs. 7000 ppm.).</cite></p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After this past winter there is no one left who is willing to believe it is a problem. On top of it, Gore&#039;s campaign is doing a terrible job of getting good endorsees. Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson. Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi. These people are liked by few and disliked by many. The message &quot;from the left and right&quot; is being rejected by that all important middle, especially middle America who is tired of shoveling snow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After this past winter there is no one left who is willing to believe it is a problem. On top of it, Gore&#8217;s campaign is doing a terrible job of getting good endorsees. Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson. Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi. These people are liked by few and disliked by many. The message &#8220;from the left and right&#8221; is being rejected by that all important middle, especially middle America who is tired of shoveling snow.</p>
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		<title>By: old construction</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/#comment-12379</link>
		<dc:creator>old construction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tuibguy says
 AGW is a real problem.
How many parts of the CO2 drives the climate theory must be falsified by observed data before you understand that CO2 does not drive the climate! 
1) CO2 lags temperture.
2) The upper part of the troposhere is not warming faster than the surface.
3) oceans evporation is not causing heat trapping clouds.
4) oceans have been cooling for the last few years eventhough CO2 have been increasing.
5) global tempature have not been increasing since 1998 eventhough CO2 have increasing.
The EPA has every right to deal with harmful pollution.  But CO2 is a non harmful gas.  Without it we would die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tuibguy says<br />
 AGW is a real problem.<br />
How many parts of the CO2 drives the climate theory must be falsified by observed data before you understand that CO2 does not drive the climate!<br />
1) CO2 lags temperture.<br />
2) The upper part of the troposhere is not warming faster than the surface.<br />
3) oceans evporation is not causing heat trapping clouds.<br />
4) oceans have been cooling for the last few years eventhough CO2 have been increasing.<br />
5) global tempature have not been increasing since 1998 eventhough CO2 have increasing.<br />
The EPA has every right to deal with harmful pollution.  But CO2 is a non harmful gas.  Without it we would die.</p>
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		<title>By: David Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuib:

Undeniable to whom?

Can you show me your evidence (and models are NOT evidence, they are mechanisms of hypothesis)?

Perhaps the increasing satellite temperatures over the last 10 years?

Perhaps the warming of the oceans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuib:</p>
<p>Undeniable to whom?</p>
<p>Can you show me your evidence (and models are NOT evidence, they are mechanisms of hypothesis)?</p>
<p>Perhaps the increasing satellite temperatures over the last 10 years?</p>
<p>Perhaps the warming of the oceans?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sure, keep on heating the planet and call the science nonsense,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If only it were science in the true sense...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sure, keep on heating the planet and call the science nonsense,</p></blockquote>
<p>If only it were science in the true sense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/19/abc-poll-gw-rates-a-big-fat-zero/#comment-12367</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuibguy,

CO2 is not a pollutant.  I exhale it everyday.  Actually, the lack of real pollutants have warmed the planet.  Less volcanic ash, less aerosols emitted by the Former Soviet Union, etc., in combination with a warmer sun have caused surface temperatures to rise.  This is why troposhere temperatures have not risen faster than surface temperatures, in direct contrast to GW theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuibguy,</p>
<p>CO2 is not a pollutant.  I exhale it everyday.  Actually, the lack of real pollutants have warmed the planet.  Less volcanic ash, less aerosols emitted by the Former Soviet Union, etc., in combination with a warmer sun have caused surface temperatures to rise.  This is why troposhere temperatures have not risen faster than surface temperatures, in direct contrast to GW theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tuibguy,

CO2 is not a pollutant. It is necessary for life. More the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tuibguy,</p>
<p>CO2 is not a pollutant. It is necessary for life. More the better.</p>
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		<title>By: (Gary G) Otter</title>
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		<dc:creator>(Gary G) Otter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denile is a river in Egypt. Go cry in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denile is a river in Egypt. Go cry in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Montana just set new weather records for this date.  From the NWS:

Statement as of 10:45 am EDT on April 21, 2008
 
...Latest Below Zero Temperature For The Season In North Central
&Nbsp;&Nbsp;&Nbsp;Montana...
 
Location new record old record year set 
Great Falls Aprt -8 on Apr 21 -1 on Apr 20 2008
 
... Record low temperatures for Apr 21 in north central and 
   southwest Montana... 
 
Location new record old record year set 
Great Falls Arpt -8 11 1951 
Belgrade field 15 (tied) 15 1951 
Lewistown 0 1 1967 
Helena 6 14 1951
 
04/20/2008 0733 am
 
7 miles N of Gold Butte, Toole County.
 
Heavy snow e16.0 inch, reported by trained spotter.

            Total snow accumulation of 12 to 16 inches... with drifts 
            up to 7 feet. Strong northwest winds occurring... with 
            snow continuing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montana just set new weather records for this date.  From the NWS:</p>
<p>Statement as of 10:45 am EDT on April 21, 2008</p>
<p>&#8230;Latest Below Zero Temperature For The Season In North Central<br />
&Nbsp;&Nbsp;&Nbsp;Montana&#8230;</p>
<p>Location new record old record year set<br />
Great Falls Aprt -8 on Apr 21 -1 on Apr 20 2008</p>
<p>&#8230; Record low temperatures for Apr 21 in north central and<br />
   southwest Montana&#8230; </p>
<p>Location new record old record year set<br />
Great Falls Arpt -8 11 1951<br />
Belgrade field 15 (tied) 15 1951<br />
Lewistown 0 1 1967<br />
Helena 6 14 1951</p>
<p>04/20/2008 0733 am</p>
<p>7 miles N of Gold Butte, Toole County.</p>
<p>Heavy snow e16.0 inch, reported by trained spotter.</p>
<p>            Total snow accumulation of 12 to 16 inches&#8230; with drifts<br />
            up to 7 feet. Strong northwest winds occurring&#8230; with<br />
            snow continuing.</p>
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		<title>By: James Chamberlain</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Chamberlain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do all of you enviro-alarmists like tuibguy above relate us sensible, skeptical scientists with Jesus, flat earthers, conservatives, SUV drivers, industrialists, and creationists?  I am none of those things and you don&#039;t know me or other people chatting on here.  I care about the environment, but I care about truth and good science even more.  People like you are a testament to the alarmist, propaganda junk that you spew and possibly believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do all of you enviro-alarmists like tuibguy above relate us sensible, skeptical scientists with Jesus, flat earthers, conservatives, SUV drivers, industrialists, and creationists?  I am none of those things and you don&#8217;t know me or other people chatting on here.  I care about the environment, but I care about truth and good science even more.  People like you are a testament to the alarmist, propaganda junk that you spew and possibly believe.</p>
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		<title>By: jeez</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tuibguy

Undeniable yes. Also unquantifiable, potentially trivial. That is the point.

&quot;the science&quot;  is shoddy, done behind closed doors, and based primarily on computer models which currently have predictive power approaching zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tuibguy</p>
<p>Undeniable yes. Also unquantifiable, potentially trivial. That is the point.</p>
<p>&#8220;the science&#8221;  is shoddy, done behind closed doors, and based primarily on computer models which currently have predictive power approaching zero.</p>
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