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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/16/journalists-pan-gore-secrecy/#comment-12263</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Aqua satellite put into orbit in 2002 by NASA was meant to back up the warming theory as it could measure not just temp but water vapour and cloud formations.
It was expected to validate the IPCC computer models and show CO2 causing more water vapour and hotspots in the Troposphere (and  Cirrus clouds?... to keep the heat in).
Unfortunately for the &quot;Warmers&quot; it showed the water vapour built up at lower levels thus increasing the thickness of the low clouds that evidently bounce radiation back to space and COOL the planet.

Can;t sleep for laughing...no wonder Gore is avoiding questioning...he must know the game is up.
Let us hope the media soon cotton on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Aqua satellite put into orbit in 2002 by NASA was meant to back up the warming theory as it could measure not just temp but water vapour and cloud formations.<br />
It was expected to validate the IPCC computer models and show CO2 causing more water vapour and hotspots in the Troposphere (and  Cirrus clouds?&#8230; to keep the heat in).<br />
Unfortunately for the &#8220;Warmers&#8221; it showed the water vapour built up at lower levels thus increasing the thickness of the low clouds that evidently bounce radiation back to space and COOL the planet.</p>
<p>Can;t sleep for laughing&#8230;no wonder Gore is avoiding questioning&#8230;he must know the game is up.<br />
Let us hope the media soon cotton on.</p>
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		<title>By: Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can I quote here the late, great Bertrand Russell?  In a different context, but still I believe on topic: 

&quot;There is perhaps a special danger in democratic abuses of power, namely that being collective they are stimulated by mob hysteria.  The man who has the art of arousing the witch-hunting instincts of the mob has a quite peculiar power for evil in a democracy where the habit of the exercise of power by the majority has produced that intoxication and impulse to tyranny which the exercise of authority almost invariably produces sooner or later.&quot; (Freedom and the Colleges, 1940).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I quote here the late, great Bertrand Russell?  In a different context, but still I believe on topic: </p>
<p>&#8220;There is perhaps a special danger in democratic abuses of power, namely that being collective they are stimulated by mob hysteria.  The man who has the art of arousing the witch-hunting instincts of the mob has a quite peculiar power for evil in a democracy where the habit of the exercise of power by the majority has produced that intoxication and impulse to tyranny which the exercise of authority almost invariably produces sooner or later.&#8221; (Freedom and the Colleges, 1940).</p>
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		<title>By: Burch Seymour</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/16/journalists-pan-gore-secrecy/#comment-12069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Burch Seymour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anyone else notice Mitt Romney’s ten reasons for dropping out of the presidential race. One of my fave’s:

&lt;i&gt;No. 5: I’d rather get fat, grow a beard, and try for the Nobel prize.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else notice Mitt Romney’s ten reasons for dropping out of the presidential race. One of my fave’s:</p>
<p><i>No. 5: I’d rather get fat, grow a beard, and try for the Nobel prize.</i></p>
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		<title>By: climatepatrol</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/16/journalists-pan-gore-secrecy/#comment-12056</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[climatepatrol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link. As a Swiss, I find it particularly funny, how Al Gore in his Hybride Limousine was contrasted by our Minister Pascal Couchepin who arrived with a Super Puma Helicopter, then delivered an anti Wind power and pro nuclear power speech to &quot;honor&quot; Al Gore during the Award ceremony.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link. As a Swiss, I find it particularly funny, how Al Gore in his Hybride Limousine was contrasted by our Minister Pascal Couchepin who arrived with a Super Puma Helicopter, then delivered an anti Wind power and pro nuclear power speech to &#8220;honor&#8221; Al Gore during the Award ceremony.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;A fairly detailed report of 540 words describes the fact that Al Gore received the honorary doctorate during a “Day of Research” at ETH Lausanne (federal technical university in French part, affiliated with larger ETH Zuerich) in the presence of Swiss President Pascal Couchepin. It was emphasized that Gore did not collect his usual fee, but the exclusion of the press was noted in slightly sarcastic tones. Interestingly, it was confirmed that Lombard Odier Darier Hentsch &amp; Cie, the Private Bank from Geneva that will support the new chair for sustainable development, works closely with Gore’s new “Generation Investment Management”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow, so the lessons we learn here are:

1) With no technical or scientific training, you can become a Nobel Laureate
2) You can become a Doctor with only one day of research
3) You can win an oscar for a &quot;documentary&quot;
4) You can whine about losing the presidency
5) You can scare the pants off the world
6) You can live a life of luxury while insisting other people give up their luxuries.
7) Make millions from a phantom menace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A fairly detailed report of 540 words describes the fact that Al Gore received the honorary doctorate during a “Day of Research” at ETH Lausanne (federal technical university in French part, affiliated with larger ETH Zuerich) in the presence of Swiss President Pascal Couchepin. It was emphasized that Gore did not collect his usual fee, but the exclusion of the press was noted in slightly sarcastic tones. Interestingly, it was confirmed that Lombard Odier Darier Hentsch &amp; Cie, the Private Bank from Geneva that will support the new chair for sustainable development, works closely with Gore’s new “Generation Investment Management”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow, so the lessons we learn here are:</p>
<p>1) With no technical or scientific training, you can become a Nobel Laureate<br />
2) You can become a Doctor with only one day of research<br />
3) You can win an oscar for a &#8220;documentary&#8221;<br />
4) You can whine about losing the presidency<br />
5) You can scare the pants off the world<br />
6) You can live a life of luxury while insisting other people give up their luxuries.<br />
7) Make millions from a phantom menace.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Carr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I, perchance, had invented the internet, I would be somewhat irritated if it then turned about and bit me...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I, perchance, had invented the internet, I would be somewhat irritated if it then turned about and bit me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few comments:

1.  Maybe we should all agree with Al Gore:  not have any press there ANYWHERE he speaks.  Then he can include the professors and students in his &quot;I&#039;m not speaking to you&quot; list.

2.  &quot;The average global temperature (land and ocean surface combined) for last month was the 2nd warmest on record for March, while the average temperature for the contiguous U.S. was near average (ranking the 63rd warmest).&quot;

So the U.S., which has been ignored because it&#039;s only &quot;2%&quot; of the earth&#039;s surface, has a &quot;normal&quot; temp, yet the ROW was second warmest.  They can&#039;t blame the U.S. for this, can they?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few comments:</p>
<p>1.  Maybe we should all agree with Al Gore:  not have any press there ANYWHERE he speaks.  Then he can include the professors and students in his &#8220;I&#8217;m not speaking to you&#8221; list.</p>
<p>2.  &#8220;The average global temperature (land and ocean surface combined) for last month was the 2nd warmest on record for March, while the average temperature for the contiguous U.S. was near average (ranking the 63rd warmest).&#8221;</p>
<p>So the U.S., which has been ignored because it&#8217;s only &#8220;2%&#8221; of the earth&#8217;s surface, has a &#8220;normal&#8221; temp, yet the ROW was second warmest.  They can&#8217;t blame the U.S. for this, can they?</p>
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		<title>By: deepslope</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/16/journalists-pan-gore-secrecy/#comment-12019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deepslope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I promised more on the reaction of the Swiss media to Gore&#039;s secrecy. For practical reasons, this is limited to a brief analysis of today&#039;s report in NZZ - Neue Zuercher Zeitung - the leading &quot;classical liberal&quot; (meaning business-friendly) daily in the German-speaking part. 

A fairly detailed report of 540 words describes the fact that Al Gore received the honorary doctorate during a &quot;Day of Research&quot; at ETH Lausanne (federal technical university in French part, affiliated with larger ETH Zuerich) in the presence of Swiss President Pascal Couchepin. It was emphasized that Gore did not collect his usual fee, but the exclusion of the press was noted in slightly sarcastic tones. Interestingly, it was confirmed that Lombard Odier Darier Hentsch &amp; Cie, the Private Bank from Geneva that will support the new chair for sustainable development, works closely with Gore&#039;s new &quot;Generation Investment Management&quot;.

So, a straight-forward business deal with tax advantages all around. 

However,  NZZ notes that the prospective holder of the chair will be independent - there is hope!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I promised more on the reaction of the Swiss media to Gore&#8217;s secrecy. For practical reasons, this is limited to a brief analysis of today&#8217;s report in NZZ &#8211; Neue Zuercher Zeitung &#8211; the leading &#8220;classical liberal&#8221; (meaning business-friendly) daily in the German-speaking part. </p>
<p>A fairly detailed report of 540 words describes the fact that Al Gore received the honorary doctorate during a &#8220;Day of Research&#8221; at ETH Lausanne (federal technical university in French part, affiliated with larger ETH Zuerich) in the presence of Swiss President Pascal Couchepin. It was emphasized that Gore did not collect his usual fee, but the exclusion of the press was noted in slightly sarcastic tones. Interestingly, it was confirmed that Lombard Odier Darier Hentsch &amp; Cie, the Private Bank from Geneva that will support the new chair for sustainable development, works closely with Gore&#8217;s new &#8220;Generation Investment Management&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, a straight-forward business deal with tax advantages all around. </p>
<p>However,  NZZ notes that the prospective holder of the chair will be independent &#8211; there is hope!</p>
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		<title>By: braddles</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect that Gore simply has nothing new to say, and doesn&#039;t want this to be exposed when he can get $100,000 or more for a speech.

Look at the scientific centrepieces of AIT - hurricanes, the hockey stick, and the Ice Age &quot;correlation&quot; between CO2 and temperature.  Does he still talk about them? If he doesn&#039;t, what does he talk about?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that Gore simply has nothing new to say, and doesn&#8217;t want this to be exposed when he can get $100,000 or more for a speech.</p>
<p>Look at the scientific centrepieces of AIT &#8211; hurricanes, the hockey stick, and the Ice Age &#8220;correlation&#8221; between CO2 and temperature.  Does he still talk about them? If he doesn&#8217;t, what does he talk about?</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scientologist/Climatologist; the only difference I see is that L. Ron wrote his own book and Gore had Spencer Weart write his.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientologist/Climatologist; the only difference I see is that L. Ron wrote his own book and Gore had Spencer Weart write his.</p>
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		<title>By: McGrats</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/16/journalists-pan-gore-secrecy/#comment-11995</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McGrats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike M said: &quot;Let’s face it: for Al, and many of his followers, this is not about climate; this is about politics. &quot;

If it&#039;s about politics, I believe that&#039;s far down on the scale. 

It seems to me it&#039;s more about money and power. The UN loves it because they might be able to fund themselves beyond their wildest dreams and gain worldwide power to boot; the EU loves it because it&#039;s a source of income to pay for all the unfunded pension cost their member state have due NOW; the media loves it because they can sell their rags; the politicians love it because they can raise taxes which will help their cash flow from political contributions; the envirowhackos love it because they can reap tons of money for &quot;research and mitigation (bush reportedly funded the greenies to the tune of $50 BILLION during his term in office); other parasites such as GE and ADM love it because the public is FORCED to buy their products; and the list goes on an on.

If there ever was a &quot;Perfect Storm&quot; of parasites, this is it!

Jack Koenig, Editor
The Mysterious Climate project
http://www.climateclinic.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike M said: &#8220;Let’s face it: for Al, and many of his followers, this is not about climate; this is about politics. &#8221;</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s about politics, I believe that&#8217;s far down on the scale. </p>
<p>It seems to me it&#8217;s more about money and power. The UN loves it because they might be able to fund themselves beyond their wildest dreams and gain worldwide power to boot; the EU loves it because it&#8217;s a source of income to pay for all the unfunded pension cost their member state have due NOW; the media loves it because they can sell their rags; the politicians love it because they can raise taxes which will help their cash flow from political contributions; the envirowhackos love it because they can reap tons of money for &#8220;research and mitigation (bush reportedly funded the greenies to the tune of $50 BILLION during his term in office); other parasites such as GE and ADM love it because the public is FORCED to buy their products; and the list goes on an on.</p>
<p>If there ever was a &#8220;Perfect Storm&#8221; of parasites, this is it!</p>
<p>Jack Koenig, Editor<br />
The Mysterious Climate project<br />
<a href="http://www.climateclinic.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateclinic.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: VG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NOAA joins the GISS crowd. Anyway... a comment from Anthony if possible, UHI would reach a limit so would it be correct to assume that surface temps can ONLY stay roughly flat or decrease from current status (although most artificial rises to date.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; UHI &quot;could&quot; reach a limit, but remember, for every UHI saturated location (big city with flat or maxed growth) there&#039;s dozens of little towns that are growing worldwide that have NOAA, BoM, etc thermometers in them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOAA joins the GISS crowd. Anyway&#8230; a comment from Anthony if possible, UHI would reach a limit so would it be correct to assume that surface temps can ONLY stay roughly flat or decrease from current status (although most artificial rises to date.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> UHI &#8220;could&#8221; reach a limit, but remember, for every UHI saturated location (big city with flat or maxed growth) there&#8217;s dozens of little towns that are growing worldwide that have NOAA, BoM, etc thermometers in them.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s the same approacha s the Scientologists. If you want the &lt;em&gt;WORD&lt;/em&gt;, you must pay. No freebies from teh Goracle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s the same approacha s the Scientologists. If you want the <em>WORD</em>, you must pay. No freebies from teh Goracle.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Sheldon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Sheldon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s be serious for a moment.

If you were millions of dollars into a program that was eaning^Wcollecting millions more, and you were about to go into a meeting and say a lot of things that you knew to be nonsense and worse, and you had the wherewithal to exclude possibly hostile reporters, what you do?

Why do you think the Founding Fathers thought the freedoms of expression were so important?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be serious for a moment.</p>
<p>If you were millions of dollars into a program that was eaning^Wcollecting millions more, and you were about to go into a meeting and say a lot of things that you knew to be nonsense and worse, and you had the wherewithal to exclude possibly hostile reporters, what you do?</p>
<p>Why do you think the Founding Fathers thought the freedoms of expression were so important?</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Counter indicators.

How do you know when you are really on to something?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/04/model-data-comparison-lesson-2#comment-84554&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When gavin personally hacks up your comment&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Counter indicators.</p>
<p>How do you know when you are really on to something?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/04/model-data-comparison-lesson-2#comment-84554" rel="nofollow">When gavin personally hacks up your comment</a>.</p>
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