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		<title>By: carlos</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-44809</link>
		<dc:creator>carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Special interest groups pressuring publishers to rewrite texts, are nothing new.  Unfortunately, both history and science are heavily edited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Special interest groups pressuring publishers to rewrite texts, are nothing new.  Unfortunately, both history and science are heavily edited.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-20976</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lest anyone think Hansen is some sort of aberration I can assure you that he is not.  I teach part time in a community college here in California and I&#039;ve seen the same attitude first-hand from some of the faculty.  It&#039;s believe what I say and do what I say or else.  No dissent permitted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lest anyone think Hansen is some sort of aberration I can assure you that he is not.  I teach part time in a community college here in California and I&#8217;ve seen the same attitude first-hand from some of the faculty.  It&#8217;s believe what I say and do what I say or else.  No dissent permitted.</p>
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		<title>By: HereticToAll</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-18066</link>
		<dc:creator>HereticToAll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you people &lt;strong&gt;[snip]&lt;/strong&gt; kidding me?

Global warming skepticism is pseudo-science. The planet is definitely warming. The effects of greenhouse gases are well-known and very easy to understand. Human actions are directly and indirectly pumping unprecedented amounts of greenhouse gases into our atmosphere.

Put 2 and 2 together people, stop being morons.

Skepticism is healthy, but it can also be rooted in absolute ignorance. For instance- creationist skepticism of evolution, geocentrist skepticism of heliocentrism.

But seeing so many sheep tout global warming skepticism as revolutionary dissent has proven to me that even to this day, the government and/or corporate entities can very effectively manipulate the public into such logical flops. The coal companies LOVE global warming skepticism, the Bush administration LOVES it too. Just be careful not to LOVE big brother without even realizing it.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Warning, no f-words allowed here, it is neither relevant nor neccessary. Rants are allowed, but need to be on topic, Please don&#039;t do it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you people <strong>[snip]</strong> kidding me?</p>
<p>Global warming skepticism is pseudo-science. The planet is definitely warming. The effects of greenhouse gases are well-known and very easy to understand. Human actions are directly and indirectly pumping unprecedented amounts of greenhouse gases into our atmosphere.</p>
<p>Put 2 and 2 together people, stop being morons.</p>
<p>Skepticism is healthy, but it can also be rooted in absolute ignorance. For instance- creationist skepticism of evolution, geocentrist skepticism of heliocentrism.</p>
<p>But seeing so many sheep tout global warming skepticism as revolutionary dissent has proven to me that even to this day, the government and/or corporate entities can very effectively manipulate the public into such logical flops. The coal companies LOVE global warming skepticism, the Bush administration LOVES it too. Just be careful not to LOVE big brother without even realizing it.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Warning, no f-words allowed here, it is neither relevant nor neccessary. Rants are allowed, but need to be on topic, Please don&#8217;t do it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-14616</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a direct correlation between Jim Hansen in New Stories and CO2.  I think Jim Hansen is causing the CO2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a direct correlation between Jim Hansen in New Stories and CO2.  I think Jim Hansen is causing the CO2.</p>
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		<title>By: para</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-13903</link>
		<dc:creator>para</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything Hansen said is true.  Don&#039;t blame him if you don&#039;t understand the science, the man knows what he&#039;s talking about and is fighting the worst humanitarian crisis ever.  We should be glad that at least he is willing to take the limelight while oil companies spend millions to keep it off this subject.
We are catapulting into disaster and God Bless Dr. Hansen for being the voice of truth.  I dare any of you to try and debate his science, because he is the best climatologist in the country.  And if you dare mention Dr. Lindzen of MIT, I&#039;ll tell you that he couldn&#039;t even stand up in a debate against a high school math teacher.  His only power lies in being at MIT and willing to take dirty money.
Laugh it up, but we ARE in code red.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything Hansen said is true.  Don&#8217;t blame him if you don&#8217;t understand the science, the man knows what he&#8217;s talking about and is fighting the worst humanitarian crisis ever.  We should be glad that at least he is willing to take the limelight while oil companies spend millions to keep it off this subject.<br />
We are catapulting into disaster and God Bless Dr. Hansen for being the voice of truth.  I dare any of you to try and debate his science, because he is the best climatologist in the country.  And if you dare mention Dr. Lindzen of MIT, I&#8217;ll tell you that he couldn&#8217;t even stand up in a debate against a high school math teacher.  His only power lies in being at MIT and willing to take dirty money.<br />
Laugh it up, but we ARE in code red.</p>
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		<title>By: omnologos</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-12175</link>
		<dc:creator>omnologos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should thank FOE for making the message&#039;s content editable. &lt;a href=&quot;http://omniclimate.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/corrected-text-for-friends-of-the-earths-goebbelite-campaign-against-houghton-mifflin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I have *slightly* modified the original&lt;/a&gt; 8-)) before clicking on &quot;Send My Message!&quot;

For good measure, I have also sent the same message to Houghton Mifflin myself... ( http:##www.hmco.com#contact#contactform.html )

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I am writing to support Houghton Mifflin against the debate-stifling, coarse, ethically unsound attempts by Friends of the Earth to force Houghton Mifflin to immediately issue a corrective packet to all the school districts currently using the textbook: American Government, 11th edition, by Professors James Q. Wilson and John J. DiIulio, Jr. 

I also ask that Houghton Mifflin keep up in the future too, its consensus-challenging, fact-based outlook that can only enhance the capabilities for critical thinking in high school pupils.

The reason? Chapter 21 on Environmental Policy is a godsend, not a “disgrace” as claimed by Friends of the Earth.

We trust the textbook authors to be fair and speak the truth.  To address global warming as “enmeshed in scientific uncertainty” is to describe things as they are. Far from dismissing the work of the nation’s and the world’s top climate scientists, such text underlines the huge challenges facing them and us in understanding the relationship between humanity and the rest of the planet. 

We need the nation’s youth to be given all the information we have available, not just the so-called “consensus”, so that they are able to make their own well-informed decisions.  For years, Houghton Mifflin has provided that information–and I am encouraged to see that a company with such a highly respected reputation is continuing to publish along the same tradition.

I am copying my governor with this message to ensure that my state knows that there is absolutely no problem whatsoever with this textbook!

Sincerely&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should thank FOE for making the message&#8217;s content editable. <a href="http://omniclimate.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/corrected-text-for-friends-of-the-earths-goebbelite-campaign-against-houghton-mifflin/" rel="nofollow">I have *slightly* modified the original</a> 8-)) before clicking on &#8220;Send My Message!&#8221;</p>
<p>For good measure, I have also sent the same message to Houghton Mifflin myself&#8230; ( http:##www.hmco.com#contact#contactform.html )</p>
<blockquote><p><i>I am writing to support Houghton Mifflin against the debate-stifling, coarse, ethically unsound attempts by Friends of the Earth to force Houghton Mifflin to immediately issue a corrective packet to all the school districts currently using the textbook: American Government, 11th edition, by Professors James Q. Wilson and John J. DiIulio, Jr. </p>
<p>I also ask that Houghton Mifflin keep up in the future too, its consensus-challenging, fact-based outlook that can only enhance the capabilities for critical thinking in high school pupils.</p>
<p>The reason? Chapter 21 on Environmental Policy is a godsend, not a “disgrace” as claimed by Friends of the Earth.</p>
<p>We trust the textbook authors to be fair and speak the truth.  To address global warming as “enmeshed in scientific uncertainty” is to describe things as they are. Far from dismissing the work of the nation’s and the world’s top climate scientists, such text underlines the huge challenges facing them and us in understanding the relationship between humanity and the rest of the planet. </p>
<p>We need the nation’s youth to be given all the information we have available, not just the so-called “consensus”, so that they are able to make their own well-informed decisions.  For years, Houghton Mifflin has provided that information–and I am encouraged to see that a company with such a highly respected reputation is continuing to publish along the same tradition.</p>
<p>I am copying my governor with this message to ensure that my state knows that there is absolutely no problem whatsoever with this textbook!</p>
<p>Sincerely</i></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-12103</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, here&#039;s what I wrote to the NASA Inspector General.  Hope something good comes of it.  I won&#039;t hold my breath, though...

&quot;Recently, Dr. James Hansen, PhD, wrote a letter to the Houghton Mifflin Company, in an attempt to pressure them to change wording in a textbook.  While I appreciate Dr. Hansen&#039;s right to express his opinion as a private citizen, I am concerned by his use of official NASA stationery in this effort.  First, it implies that it is official NASA policy that Anthropogenic Global Warming is occurring, and the fact is beyond debate.  Is that truly the position of NASA?  Second, I am troubled by a PUBLIC official using his capacity as a representative of the government to pressure a PRIVATE company to change its product to suit his view as a government representative.  I personally find that very troubling.
Please advise me if I am wrong on either of these thoughts.  I have written a letter to my congressman asking him to investigate the propriety of Dr. Hansen&#039;s letter, and look forward to a response from him and NASA regarding this important issue.  
Here is a link to Dr. Hansen&#039;s letter.

http://www.foe.org/textbook/Hansen_Letter.pdf

Thank you for your time.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here&#8217;s what I wrote to the NASA Inspector General.  Hope something good comes of it.  I won&#8217;t hold my breath, though&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Recently, Dr. James Hansen, PhD, wrote a letter to the Houghton Mifflin Company, in an attempt to pressure them to change wording in a textbook.  While I appreciate Dr. Hansen&#8217;s right to express his opinion as a private citizen, I am concerned by his use of official NASA stationery in this effort.  First, it implies that it is official NASA policy that Anthropogenic Global Warming is occurring, and the fact is beyond debate.  Is that truly the position of NASA?  Second, I am troubled by a PUBLIC official using his capacity as a representative of the government to pressure a PRIVATE company to change its product to suit his view as a government representative.  I personally find that very troubling.<br />
Please advise me if I am wrong on either of these thoughts.  I have written a letter to my congressman asking him to investigate the propriety of Dr. Hansen&#8217;s letter, and look forward to a response from him and NASA regarding this important issue.<br />
Here is a link to Dr. Hansen&#8217;s letter.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foe.org/textbook/Hansen_Letter.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.foe.org/textbook/Hansen_Letter.pdf</a></p>
<p>Thank you for your time.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Gulrud</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11707</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Gulrud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul:

While the form of your prose is sound, its import is both tendentious and mendacious.

Hansen dismisses those of his critics that are politically insensitive, e.g., Steve McIntyre on the Y2K flub, with a wave of the hand, as &quot;Jesters&quot;.

Yet, when politically vulnerable he is quick to raise a controversy and bring pressure to bear.  When the head of NASA at a bureau conference suggested that the science re: AGW was uncertain, Hansen immediately went to press with &quot;I nearly fell out of my chair!&quot;.  His superior was promptly and suitably chastened.

Where Hansen feels politically  at risk, he levels the charge of censorship, ludicrous in light of the chart on evidence. 

Men fear most that evil which lives in their own heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul:</p>
<p>While the form of your prose is sound, its import is both tendentious and mendacious.</p>
<p>Hansen dismisses those of his critics that are politically insensitive, e.g., Steve McIntyre on the Y2K flub, with a wave of the hand, as &#8220;Jesters&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yet, when politically vulnerable he is quick to raise a controversy and bring pressure to bear.  When the head of NASA at a bureau conference suggested that the science re: AGW was uncertain, Hansen immediately went to press with &#8220;I nearly fell out of my chair!&#8221;.  His superior was promptly and suitably chastened.</p>
<p>Where Hansen feels politically  at risk, he levels the charge of censorship, ludicrous in light of the chart on evidence. </p>
<p>Men fear most that evil which lives in their own heart.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11674</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saaard says: 

 &quot;I first got interested in the whole AGW farce when Hansen et al claimed that the ‘debate was over’ - anyone who knows scientific method knows that this statement is unscientific to its very core&quot;.

Exactly the same for me, except the statement was from Tim Flannery (who went on to advocate climate engineering, so we could control the atmospere and dial up any climate we want). You don&#039;t need to know much about &quot;climate science&quot; to know that this cannot possibly be true. So why not put up your best theory and enjoy the victory over your critics, as is normally the case in scientific circles?  Obviously because you don&#039;t think you&#039;ll win.</description>
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<p> &#8220;I first got interested in the whole AGW farce when Hansen et al claimed that the ‘debate was over’ &#8211; anyone who knows scientific method knows that this statement is unscientific to its very core&#8221;.</p>
<p>Exactly the same for me, except the statement was from Tim Flannery (who went on to advocate climate engineering, so we could control the atmospere and dial up any climate we want). You don&#8217;t need to know much about &#8220;climate science&#8221; to know that this cannot possibly be true. So why not put up your best theory and enjoy the victory over your critics, as is normally the case in scientific circles?  Obviously because you don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll win.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11671</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;We’re in for a little cool weather indeed.&lt;/cite&gt;

&quot;He said there&#039;s a storm coming in.&quot; 
&quot;I know ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>We’re in for a little cool weather indeed.</cite></p>
<p>&#8220;He said there&#8217;s a storm coming in.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I know &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11663</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments are not well taken. The question is not whether there is room for debate, but whether this text accurately presents the state of that debate. It does not. The text is one-sided and dismissive of the majority view.  

It would be peculiar to have a detailed discussion of science in a government textbook, and in fact that is not what the text presents. Your argument that Hansen is attempting to stifle a scientific debate is off the mark because that is not the debate the text engages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments are not well taken. The question is not whether there is room for debate, but whether this text accurately presents the state of that debate. It does not. The text is one-sided and dismissive of the majority view.  </p>
<p>It would be peculiar to have a detailed discussion of science in a government textbook, and in fact that is not what the text presents. Your argument that Hansen is attempting to stifle a scientific debate is off the mark because that is not the debate the text engages.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Needham</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11495</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan Needham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water, we have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myembarq.com/news/news_reader.php?storyid=15962364&amp;feedid=246&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MORE NITWITTERY&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Howard Frumkin, a senior official of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, gave a detailed summary on the likely health impacts of global warming at a congressional hearing. &lt;b&gt;But he refrained from giving an opinion on whether carbon dioxide, a leading greenhouse gas, should be regulated as a danger to public health.&lt;/b&gt; (&lt;i&gt;if it&#039;s so bad, just ban the stuff&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And could this guy gain employment anywhere outside of government making statements like this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;To the science, &lt;b&gt;there is strong evidence that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas&lt;/b&gt; ... and that there is strong evidence that climate change affects public health in many ways,&quot; responded Frumkin, carefully gauging his words, when pressed by Rep. Hilda Solis, D-Calif., on the issue. (em phasis added)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To paraphrase a line from a famous poem: I didn&#039;t think that I would ever see a human being more stupid than a tree, but I think I just have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water, we have <a href="http://www.myembarq.com/news/news_reader.php?storyid=15962364&amp;feedid=246" rel="nofollow">MORE NITWITTERY</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Howard Frumkin, a senior official of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, gave a detailed summary on the likely health impacts of global warming at a congressional hearing. <b>But he refrained from giving an opinion on whether carbon dioxide, a leading greenhouse gas, should be regulated as a danger to public health.</b> (<i>if it&#8217;s so bad, just ban the stuff</i>)</p></blockquote>
<p>And could this guy gain employment anywhere outside of government making statements like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;To the science, <b>there is strong evidence that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas</b> &#8230; and that there is strong evidence that climate change affects public health in many ways,&#8221; responded Frumkin, carefully gauging his words, when pressed by Rep. Hilda Solis, D-Calif., on the issue. (em phasis added)</p></blockquote>
<p>To paraphrase a line from a famous poem: I didn&#8217;t think that I would ever see a human being more stupid than a tree, but I think I just have.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Gosselin (aka AGWscoffer)</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11452</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Gosselin (aka AGWscoffer)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan,
Looking at that PDO, I&#039;d say you&#039;re right!
We&#039;re in for a little cool weather indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan,<br />
Looking at that PDO, I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re right!<br />
We&#8217;re in for a little cool weather indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11431</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here is the D&#039;Aleo combo correlation:

http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/warming-trend-pdo-and-solar-correlate-better-than-co2/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here is the D&#8217;Aleo combo correlation:</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/warming-trend-pdo-and-solar-correlate-better-than-co2/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/warming-trend-pdo-and-solar-correlate-better-than-co2/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11430</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(The above from my Ocean &quot;postcard&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(The above from my Ocean &#8220;postcard&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11428</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AGWS:

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=265&amp;tstamp=200512

This has the best graph I&#039;ve found. It indicates that AMO is at its peak, but still has some time to go at current levels.

I read something recently I can&#039;t find now which said a downteurn is expected in c. 5 years (which would make the current cycle a little short, acc. to the graph.

PDO is 29 years into a 25-30 year cycle, so we can probably expect a cooling Real Soon Now. (Note that there are ups and downs within the larger cycle. We are currently headed towards cooler, acc. to this graph):

http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGWS:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=265&amp;tstamp=200512" rel="nofollow">http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=265&amp;tstamp=200512</a></p>
<p>This has the best graph I&#8217;ve found. It indicates that AMO is at its peak, but still has some time to go at current levels.</p>
<p>I read something recently I can&#8217;t find now which said a downteurn is expected in c. 5 years (which would make the current cycle a little short, acc. to the graph.</p>
<p>PDO is 29 years into a 25-30 year cycle, so we can probably expect a cooling Real Soon Now. (Note that there are ups and downs within the larger cycle. We are currently headed towards cooler, acc. to this graph):</p>
<p><a href="http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/" rel="nofollow">http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wood</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11422</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can go to the Goddard Space Flight Center and on the &quot;contact us&quot; section, e-mail a complaint to the center and query whether Hansen has exceeded his terms and conditions of employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can go to the Goddard Space Flight Center and on the &#8220;contact us&#8221; section, e-mail a complaint to the center and query whether Hansen has exceeded his terms and conditions of employment.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ronayne</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11419</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Ronayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now they want burn the books! Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now they want burn the books! Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Gosselin (aka AGWscoffer)</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11409</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Gosselin (aka AGWscoffer)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tinyfrog,
How would feel about a PUBLIC debate between Hansen and Lindzen. I say let&#039;s not censor one side or the other. Let the public hear both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tinyfrog,<br />
How would feel about a PUBLIC debate between Hansen and Lindzen. I say let&#8217;s not censor one side or the other. Let the public hear both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Gosselin (aka AGWscoffer)</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/11/hansen-pressures-textbook-publisher/#comment-11408</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Gosselin (aka AGWscoffer)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan
Would you kindly provide me with a link that shows the AMO is at its peak? I could search one out myself, but hope you have something at your fingertips. 
I&#039;d be grateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan<br />
Would you kindly provide me with a link that shows the AMO is at its peak? I could search one out myself, but hope you have something at your fingertips.<br />
I&#8217;d be grateful.</p>
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