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By: NASA moves the goalposts on Solar Cycle 24 again « An Honest Climate Debate

NASA moves the goalposts on Solar Cycle 24 again « An Honest Climate Debate — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:13:33 +0000

[...] isn’t the first time NASA has moved the goalpost. Back in March I did a story on NASA moving the goal post then, and since then they’ve moved the cycle ahead twice, once in April and again now in [...]

By: NASA moves the goalposts on Solar Cycle 24 again « Watts Up With That?

NASA moves the goalposts on Solar Cycle 24 again « Watts Up With That? — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:38:24 +0000

By: Nik

Nik — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:24:05 +0000

Hathaway seems to have thought that cycle 24 was starting in August 2006.
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn9778-first-sunspot-of-next-solar-cycle-glimpsed.html

Maybe he should STOP predicting for now and wait and see like the rest of us.

By: Australian Space Weather Agency Pushes Solar Cycle 24 Ahead 6 months « Watts Up With That?

Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:21:59 +0000

[...] to see if Hathaway follows with a new prediction in the wake of the IPS announcement, there already has been one change in Hathaway’s prediction this year, so it would not be surprising to see [...]

By: Jeff Puckett

Jeff Puckett — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:08:54 +0000

Andrew,

It would mean a reduction in agriculture. How large a reduction is not clear. We have different agriculture methods now than they did several hundred years ago. Crops would still be produced they will just cost more because there would be less of them. There are other effects, colder winters, more snow in North America, and better weather (for humans) in the southern U.S. during the summer. If we were to have several cycles in a row then other things would happen, but lets no go there now.

If the human caused global warming crowd are correct about human emmisions then perhaps they will cancel each other out for a while.

Jeff

quote: Andrew (21:57:32) :

Nobody replied anything to David’s message above: Let’s suppose something like a Dalton Minimum happens. What does it mean for global temperatures/rainfall/demographics?
I’m not interested in apocalyptic scenarios but some reasonable outcomes.
Which world regions would be best to live?

Also, I find it very odd that nobody has taken up the remarkable March 23-April 3 sunspot explosions and what it may imply for sun cycle 24.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:57:32 +0000

Also, I find it very odd that nobody has taken up the remarkable March 23-April 3 sunspot explosions and what it may imply for sun cycle 24.

By: Pamela Gray

Pamela Gray — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:38:15 +0000

I sure would like to see daily and monthly temperature spanning 6 months before and 6 months after the geomagnetic field from the sun “switched off”.

By: Bob

Bob — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:45:27 +0000

New to this site – but want to make a post. Take a look at the following link:
http://www.griffith.edu.au/conference/ics2007/pdf/ICS176.pdf

If this is correct – we are probably headed into a long solar minimum to rival the Dalton or perhaps the Maunder minimums.

By: Kaden

Kaden — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:32:25 +0000

Landscheidt’s science was looking for cosmic order and how it impacts Earth. His science of the sun was a significant ‘piece’ of that. His ‘Golden Mean’ work was based on something timeless, orderly, and beautiful. He kept an open mind, let his intuition lead, and followed up with facts. hmmm sounds like Galileo, Newton, Kepler, Einstein…let’s throw in Garrett Lisi for the heck of it. (Personally, I’m a Pauli junkie.)

These were/are all very spiritual men. All believing in cosmic order. Religion had little to do with their work other than attack and censorship of it.

An astrological chart isn’t something that should cause an immediate mental wall to go up. It’s just an ancient tool for time tracking…and it worked. And it worked so well, it was used for a really long time. It gives a really good topocentric view in which you might see patterns that have more impact than looking at the same data always in data or heliocentric form.

Look wider and keep an open mind.

…and if you plug the dates of the last few really big geomagnetic storms in to a natal chart and with their birth location being where they had the most impact…you just might start seeing a pattern you didn’t expect … or maybe don’t really want to see.

April 2011 is looking intense…no?

By: Evan Jones

Evan Jones — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:11:21 +0000

Awaiting the end to arrive
Downfall planet earth
Beneath a dying sun

By: JP

JP — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:06:02 +0000

The Gliessberg Cycles are what interests the Russian solar scientists. Essientially, we are at the tail end of a positive cycle. The last negative cycle contained The Sporer Minimum, Maunder Minimum, and Dalton Minimum. The last negative cycle ended somewhere between 1820 and 1840. Each cycle lasts between 150 and 200 years.

By: Evan Jones

Evan Jones — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 03:07:23 +0000

No fair. They promised me I could start worrying earnest in mid-March and now they’re pulling the opld bait-and-switch. I object. I must insist upon the promised Dalton discount.

By: David

David — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:18:35 +0000

Are there any reasonable predictions on what global/local temperatures and rainfall will look like if we enter another solar minimum like Maunder or Dalton? Will CO2 contribution to warming change in a cooler world?

If you’re an investor, where do you put your money on bets that we are entering a cooler phase based on solar activity?

By: kim

kim — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:34:22 +0000

Solar flux 68.2 yesterday, a new low for this cycle. I know, I know, it could be 70 tomorrow, but still, definitely not yet starting its slow rise.
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By: Ted Annonson

Ted Annonson — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:46:06 +0000

For sunspot numbers, http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/solar/ftpsunspotnumber,html wil give a daily readout from 1818 to Feb. this year, monthly numbers from 1700 to now and even sunspot observations as far back as 165 BC. It makes for some very interesting charts. I’m still looking for temperature charts for comparison.