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	<title>Comments on: NOAA: Hurricane frequency and global warming NOT the cause of increased destruction</title>
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		<title>By: EMVHI</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/21/noaa-hurricane-frequency-and-global-warming-not-the-cause-of-increased-destruction/#comment-62946</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding 50x the CO2 in the ocean.  

Google &quot;Henry&#039;s Law&quot; and &quot;La Chatelier&#039;s Principle.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding 50x the CO2 in the ocean.  </p>
<p>Google &#8220;Henry&#8217;s Law&#8221; and &#8220;La Chatelier&#8217;s Principle.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AH1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AH1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahem...global warming is still happening. Methane clathrates are melting. This has been hypothesised as one of the trigger mechanisms for the Permian-Triassic mass extinction, and is a severe positive feedback mechanism for global warming, along with the melting methane in Siberia...we&#039;re reaching that tipping point now as it was discovered this September...look it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem&#8230;global warming is still happening. Methane clathrates are melting. This has been hypothesised as one of the trigger mechanisms for the Permian-Triassic mass extinction, and is a severe positive feedback mechanism for global warming, along with the melting methane in Siberia&#8230;we&#8217;re reaching that tipping point now as it was discovered this September&#8230;look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: evanjones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[evanjones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Six multidecadal oscillations switched from cool phase to warm phase between 1976 and 2001 (PDO, AMO, NOA, AO, AAO, IPO). A 0.4°C increase occurred (although even the magnitude of that has been called into question.)

Now the PDO has gone cool. Temps are down sharply (after years of flatness). The NAO and AO may be going cold (ahead of expected schedule).

I would definitely take a wait-and-see attitude before either jumping to conclusions or taking economic measures that will cost up to half of world economic growth.

(An inconvenient Truth has been shot so full of holes, there really isn&#039;t much left of it. This does not disprove AGW, but it makes AIT a non-source.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Six multidecadal oscillations switched from cool phase to warm phase between 1976 and 2001 (PDO, AMO, NOA, AO, AAO, IPO). A 0.4°C increase occurred (although even the magnitude of that has been called into question.)</p>
<p>Now the PDO has gone cool. Temps are down sharply (after years of flatness). The NAO and AO may be going cold (ahead of expected schedule).</p>
<p>I would definitely take a wait-and-see attitude before either jumping to conclusions or taking economic measures that will cost up to half of world economic growth.</p>
<p>(An inconvenient Truth has been shot so full of holes, there really isn&#8217;t much left of it. This does not disprove AGW, but it makes AIT a non-source.)</p>
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		<title>By: Maddison</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maddison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[global warming is real -&gt; indeed :(.  Sad but true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>global warming is real -&gt; indeed :(.  Sad but true.</p>
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		<title>By: Kk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Load of shizzle.
global warming is real.


The inconvienent truth

watch it aye]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Load of shizzle.<br />
global warming is real.</p>
<p>The inconvienent truth</p>
<p>watch it aye</p>
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		<title>By: GermanShepherd's Lair - Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Global Warming Residue Alert</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/21/noaa-hurricane-frequency-and-global-warming-not-the-cause-of-increased-destruction/#comment-22918</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GermanShepherd's Lair - Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Global Warming Residue Alert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Except the National Oceanic &amp; Atmospheric Administration released a paper a while ago with research and numbers proving that landfall hurricane count has NOT gone up since the whole &quot;global warming awareness&quot; (read: scare-mongering) has begun and has, in fact, been generally lower. Oops. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Except the National Oceanic &amp; Atmospheric Administration released a paper a while ago with research and numbers proving that landfall hurricane count has NOT gone up since the whole &#8220;global warming awareness&#8221; (read: scare-mongering) has begun and has, in fact, been generally lower. Oops. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Warming Stopped 10 Years Ago. - Page 6 - Political Forum - US &#38; World Political Discussion Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Warming Stopped 10 Years Ago. - Page 6 - Political Forum - US &#38; World Political Discussion Forums]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not caused by global heating, say scientists &#8211; Times Online   Discovery News : Discovery Channel   NOAA: Hurricane frequency and global warming NOT the cause of increased destruction  Watts Up With &#8230;    &#8230;etc.,ad [...]</p>
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		<title>By: “Our Dishonest Media’s Role in History’s Greatest Scam” &#171; Defending Reason</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/21/noaa-hurricane-frequency-and-global-warming-not-the-cause-of-increased-destruction/#comment-11860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[“Our Dishonest Media’s Role in History’s Greatest Scam” &#171; Defending Reason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] made landfall between 1851-1005 and conclusively found that hurricane intensity had not increased. (http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/noaa-hurricane-frequency-and-global-warming-not-the-...). What the study did find, and what Al Gore Jr. will tell you, is that the damage done by [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] made landfall between 1851-1005 and conclusively found that hurricane intensity had not increased. (<a href="http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/noaa-hurricane-frequency-and-global-warming-not-the-" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/noaa-hurricane-frequency-and-global-warming-not-the-</a>&#8230;). What the study did find, and what Al Gore Jr. will tell you, is that the damage done by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane expert reconsiders global warming&#8217;s impact &#171; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/21/noaa-hurricane-frequency-and-global-warming-not-the-cause-of-increased-destruction/#comment-11362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hurricane expert reconsiders global warming&#8217;s impact &#171; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I previously reported in my post titled: Hurricane frequency and global warming NOT the cause of increased destruction, it appears that the &#8220;link&#8221; cited by Gore and others trying to equate global warming to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I previously reported in my post titled: Hurricane frequency and global warming NOT the cause of increased destruction, it appears that the &#8220;link&#8221; cited by Gore and others trying to equate global warming to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Isgar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Isgar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes it is, I forgot that Anthony was the name of the blog host.  I&#039;ll put my last name on here now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is, I forgot that Anthony was the name of the blog host.  I&#8217;ll put my last name on here now.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Jeff

Cosmic rays have been experimentally determined to be able to produce ultra-small aerosol particles.  These particles act as cloud condensation nuclei.  It is still classified as a Theory, it has not yet been made into a Law.  The test was done at Stanford I believe, and is scheduled to be redone in London and a Russian lab to determine it validity.  There have been no tests to disprove it yet.

If you do a google or youtube search for &quot;The Great Global Warming Swindle&quot; you can see the direct correlation sunspot activity vs global temperature.  As the Sunspot activity goes down, the magnetic field of the the sun is weaker, and that allows more cosmic rays into out solar system.  The reverse is also true.  That is why over the past 30 years, every planet in our solar system that has weather has experienced warming.  According to Mr Gore, Mars has global warming because someone parked their SuV there.  :)

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY: &lt;/strong&gt;FYI this is a different Anthony than the blog host]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeff</p>
<p>Cosmic rays have been experimentally determined to be able to produce ultra-small aerosol particles.  These particles act as cloud condensation nuclei.  It is still classified as a Theory, it has not yet been made into a Law.  The test was done at Stanford I believe, and is scheduled to be redone in London and a Russian lab to determine it validity.  There have been no tests to disprove it yet.</p>
<p>If you do a google or youtube search for &#8220;The Great Global Warming Swindle&#8221; you can see the direct correlation sunspot activity vs global temperature.  As the Sunspot activity goes down, the magnetic field of the the sun is weaker, and that allows more cosmic rays into out solar system.  The reverse is also true.  That is why over the past 30 years, every planet in our solar system that has weather has experienced warming.  According to Mr Gore, Mars has global warming because someone parked their SuV there.  :)</p>
<p><strong>REPLY: </strong>FYI this is a different Anthony than the blog host</p>
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		<title>By: New AMS draft policy statement links Hurricane Katrina and climate &#171; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/21/noaa-hurricane-frequency-and-global-warming-not-the-cause-of-increased-destruction/#comment-8003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New AMS draft policy statement links Hurricane Katrina and climate &#171; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] top of that, just last month, NOAA issued a press release saying that “There  is nothing in the U.S. hurricane damage record  that indicates global warming has caused... The source of the press release was the National Hurricane Center, from Chris Landsea, one of the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] top of that, just last month, NOAA issued a press release saying that “There  is nothing in the U.S. hurricane damage record  that indicates global warming has caused&#8230; The source of the press release was the National Hurricane Center, from Chris Landsea, one of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts (was Jeff in Seattle)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts (was Jeff in Seattle)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And more cosmic rays leads to more efficient cloud nucleation,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought that theory was still very much up in the air.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And more cosmic rays leads to more efficient cloud nucleation,</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought that theory was still very much up in the air.</p>
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		<title>By: George E. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George E. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it interesting that these four reporting agencies like to describe their temperature data as anomalies; and people like to look for &quot;trends&quot; in the data.  And of course the perceived trend depends on how long a time interval you select, adn when you start it, and when you end it.  Then the four reporting groups use different &quot;baseline&quot; preiods for their temperature scales.
There is nothing at all anomalous about these temperature data; they are (purportedly) what was actually measured in that scientific laboratory known as planet earth; they actually happened as they are recorded here.
So don&#039;t look for trends; the only trend present in any of those data sets, is the progression from one measured data point to the next data point.

If you want to look at trends  Jut take the Mauna Loa obsevatory CO2 data and plot it on the same time scale graphs, that the four reporting agency&#039;s data is plotted on.  And then try if you dare, to find any correlation whatsoever between the actually measured temperature data, and the actually measured CO2 data.  You won&#039;t find any, because their simply isn&#039;t any.

I must say, I really appreciate your work.  The flat sunspot siuation probably implies that the earth&#039;s cosmic ray flux, is currently at some sort of high level, maybe historically high.  And more cosmic rays leads to more efficient cloud nucleation, so I would bet that this period of sudden cold, occurring even though there was increased global precipitation, means we had unusually high lgobal cloud cover during that precipitous temperature drop; and cosmic rays had a lot to do with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that these four reporting agencies like to describe their temperature data as anomalies; and people like to look for &#8220;trends&#8221; in the data.  And of course the perceived trend depends on how long a time interval you select, adn when you start it, and when you end it.  Then the four reporting groups use different &#8220;baseline&#8221; preiods for their temperature scales.<br />
There is nothing at all anomalous about these temperature data; they are (purportedly) what was actually measured in that scientific laboratory known as planet earth; they actually happened as they are recorded here.<br />
So don&#8217;t look for trends; the only trend present in any of those data sets, is the progression from one measured data point to the next data point.</p>
<p>If you want to look at trends  Jut take the Mauna Loa obsevatory CO2 data and plot it on the same time scale graphs, that the four reporting agency&#8217;s data is plotted on.  And then try if you dare, to find any correlation whatsoever between the actually measured temperature data, and the actually measured CO2 data.  You won&#8217;t find any, because their simply isn&#8217;t any.</p>
<p>I must say, I really appreciate your work.  The flat sunspot siuation probably implies that the earth&#8217;s cosmic ray flux, is currently at some sort of high level, maybe historically high.  And more cosmic rays leads to more efficient cloud nucleation, so I would bet that this period of sudden cold, occurring even though there was increased global precipitation, means we had unusually high lgobal cloud cover during that precipitous temperature drop; and cosmic rays had a lot to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg E.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I love to use to put a cork in the AGW nutbars is Typhoon Tip. Tip was the largest tropical storm ever on record. How large? Over 3,000 MILES in diameter at its peak. Fortunately it greatly diminished before making landfall.

When was this &quot;mother of all storms&quot;? NINETEEN SEVENTY-NINE, at the height of an unusually active Pacific typhoon season.

Perhaps it was just overcompensating for the tiny name it got stuck with...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I love to use to put a cork in the AGW nutbars is Typhoon Tip. Tip was the largest tropical storm ever on record. How large? Over 3,000 MILES in diameter at its peak. Fortunately it greatly diminished before making landfall.</p>
<p>When was this &#8220;mother of all storms&#8221;? NINETEEN SEVENTY-NINE, at the height of an unusually active Pacific typhoon season.</p>
<p>Perhaps it was just overcompensating for the tiny name it got stuck with&#8230;</p>
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