Comments on: Ice between Canada and SW Greenland: highest level in 15 years.

By: Louis Stannard

Louis Stannard — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:17:04 +0000

Here we are about to spend trillions of dollars to TRY and control climate based on a model proffered by the UN IPCC with no proper international peer review–this, when the NWS has difficulties with weather forecast meer days in the future. Isn’t it time to have proper scientific review before bankrupting future generations for what might be normal climate variations?

In view the climate is now definitely cooling, and not warming, perhaps it’s time to find out the truth.

By: Ivan Manley

Ivan Manley — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:47:30 +0000

I am a simulation engineer since 1966 – UCLA Class of ’66 Masters Degree. Having worked in simulation throughout my career, I cannot understand the various scientists that predict, based on their simulation models, that the earth will blah, blah blah in 5/10/20… years. They can’t even get tomorrow’s weather correct so how can they predict past next weekend?

The Director of Global Warming for Greenpeace was asked ‘Why is the Pacific Ocean cooling.’ The response was ‘That is a global warming phenomena.’ Asked about the record low temperatures in the 48 states, he replied ‘That is a global warming phenomena.’ Are all things global warming phenomena.

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Thu, 15 May 2008 02:01:04 +0000

[...] more. The ice between Greenland and Canada extended farther south than it had in the past 15 [...]

By: ocaladon

ocaladon — Thu, 15 May 2008 00:26:43 +0000

This is all so much Barbra Streisand, I think That I will go out and buy more Ammo!

By: Walt

Walt — Fri, 02 May 2008 21:44:50 +0000

No One can predict the extent and thickness of the sea ice. It is known from recent history (about 100 years or so in the past) that the ice conditions vary considerably from year to year. Amundson took his small boat through the northwest passage a little over 100 years ago. But there is no scientific data for much of that period. Some scientists say you cannot determine ice thickness without actual empirical measurements on the ice itself. Others use computer models while sitting in their offices in some city.

At this point, I find this whole debate about sea ice bordering on the preposterous.

Of course, we should continue studying the ice conditions in the arctic to learn as much as we can, but refrain from making dubious predictions and hysterical public announcements. These sciences are in their infancy and are not reliable predictive sciences. They have enough trouble measuring present conditions and know very little about past ones.

By: Texas Aggie

Texas Aggie — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:35:08 +0000

“The US Coast Guard is already planning to increase its presence in the Arctic to support shipping. They know a thing or two about the ocean. Does it sound like they are expecting an increase in sea ice?”

Perhaps they are. Sea ice is extremely hazardous to shipping. More presence may indeed be required.

By: roy

roy — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:39:06 +0000

Hi from Seattle, Washington USA…… our entire region has experienced record cold this winter and almost 200% of normal snowfall in the mountains,…. glaciers on Mt St Helens are expanding ……and still our media and politicians are warning us about global warming……..WOW when will the masses realize that the “emperor has no clothes” ???

By they way when Al Gore was VP he “climbed” Mt Rainier using helicopters for much of the transportation to the mountain , including his multitutde of his security detail as well has who knows who accompanies the President and VP on such outings…….

And also Al Gore received a speeding ticket from an Oregon State Police Trooper in about 2004 (the little gas wasting speed demon”

By: Jest a reader

Jest a reader — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:01:34 +0000

Extent without thickness doesnt provide valuable information. I’ll reserve opinion until at least next summer.

The US Coast Guard is already planning to increase its presence in the Arctic to support shipping. They know a thing or two about the ocean. Does it sound like they are expecting an increase in sea ice?

By: Uncle Pete

Uncle Pete — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:14:27 +0000

Here in Brisbane (Eastern Seaboard Australia) we have just had the coolest summer in 30 years. :)

By: Gigman

Gigman — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:40:29 +0000

My big worry about giving any importance for such a one year trend is that it might come back and haunt us later when there is a sharp increase in temperature or decrease in ice mass (especially when the forecast for 2008 is higher temperature http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080104091616.htm)

By: SteveSadlov

SteveSadlov — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:51:39 +0000

Sheryle – no, you have one more month. The SH autumnal / NH spring equinox is not until the 3rd week of March.

By: SteveSadlov

SteveSadlov — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:49:35 +0000

Normal annual areal max is generally between Mar 15 and Apr 15. Still some more to go, in all likelihood.

By: Evan Jones

Evan Jones — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:16:55 +0000

Kent: Actually, I don’t know that it’s so unreasonable a measure. It takes us from the trough of the PDO low to the peak of a PDO high. That seems reasonable as an interval average.

Now when PDO is definitely on the downswing, we can compare the two halves of the cycle and see what we can see. Comparing peak-to-peak (late 1930′s to Y2K) and trough-to-trough (1980 to c. 2030) will actually give us a better handle on actual warming. (Unless the AMO puts a foot in and screws with the stats.)