So, yeah, why not; conservation, nuke power, heat sinks, better engineering, electric autos, etc. But it has to make economic and social sense – bringing down western civilization does not make sense. So, let’s do what’s reasonable, but let’s not get crazy.

Would you care to explain the physics by which human activity is responsible for a) Hurricanes (2 marks) b) Tsunamis (10 marks).

Unfortunately by the time you guys get the proof you need it’s going to be a slap in the face with a tsunami or hurricane and by then it will be way too late.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17912_3-10043977-72.html

“Click for a full sized image. Note that the 1980 photo does not show snow cover (in white) as the technology then wasn’t able to resolve it as it does today.”

Try reading the “Bold Print” under the image – it states “the 1980 photo does not show snow cover (in white)” – no attempt at deception – all you have to do is read it.

Also WRT “5- Honest scientifics in Canada are presently saying that we could have, for the first time ever, absolutly no arctic sea ice at all VERY SOON. Some bet even in Sept 2008!” – Well they lost their bet didn’t they – not even close.

911allo Your barking at shadows…

Lake in my neighbourhood…. 60metree wide, 100metres long, 10metres deep…

In what was supposedly one of the warmest winters on record from the dates 15th December 2007 to 24th December…. Frozen solid, from end to end. Ice was a foot deep for a few days as I tested it….

Then on 25th December 2007 weather changed, warmed rapidly, and then un til and of January, very mild…..

Is this unusual…. No…. The winter weather goes up and down like yo-yo.

Last week in Uk has been unusually cold for this time of year, now the Met office predicts temperatures will average around 11degrees C, for Southern Uk, exactly right for this time of year.

By mid December we’ll have nigh frosts every night (not as severe as 1960′s) but they’ll happen) and in between there will be warm winds from the SW and thus midler nights.

Is this global warming!!??? NOOOOOOO.. Its normal and natural and I’m honestly fed up with little green fools waffling on about how we are polluting the planet.

End of my rant!

Well here in central europe, we had two very warm winters. – 06/07 and 07/08. In fact, January and February were spring months here for two years :(

In reality the earth has been warming since approximately 1976, directly after the unusual long summer of that year. But the effects of this warming had a long time lag, indeed the harsh winters of the 1960′s and early 1970′s abated into the 1980′s, with some harsh winters but a warming trend, into the ridiculously mild winters of the mid 1990′s, which by 2002 had begun to level off, and by 2007 had all but ended.

In reality the scientific evidence is all to sketchy to be completely sure, apart from when it began and when it appears to be leveling off. But to attribute it to Co2 or methane increase from humans is STUPID. For a couple of reasons.

1) Co2 only makes up 0.04% of the earths atmosphere. It is a trace gas! Theres more Argon in the atmosphere than co2. To attribute it all to a trace gas is VERY strange! Take a sealed greenhouse, increase the Co2 level from 0.04 to 0.06%, think you’ll see an temperature increase??? Wait 20yrs, think you’ll see one!!! Makes me laugh.

2) The earths temperature routinely changes across time periods. When the Romans were in Britain it was warmer than today. Vineyards were abundant in London, note the roads still named after them. Note how wide the rivers were as they sailed their galleons up and down them….

3) Its really all about big business. By the late 1980′s the scientific community had latched onto the idea, then the green-left, then everyone who knew next to nothing about climate… RESULT…. Mult-billion pound bullshit industry….

There is only one driver of climate change… Its called the Sun.