Comments on: How not to measure temperature, part 36 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/ The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change Tue, 29 May 2012 10:28:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: George M http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2671 Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:29:14 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2671 downtown?
I’m sure you mean downturn, right?
Spell checker strikes again!

]]> By: wattsupwiththat http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2656 Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:10:48 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2656 Here is the complete record of John Christy’s satellite measurements:

http://www.remss.com/msu/msu_data_description.html

The downtown is slight.

]]> By: George M http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2655 Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:55:39 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2655 Heads up everyone. Drudge just referenced a (UK) Telegraph article which says NASA satellite measurements show temperatures have been declining since 1998. Anyone have a direct reference to the NASA data?

]]> By: Russ http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2652 Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:07:06 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2652 Henry,

We have more of the Panguitch story on NC Media Watch here and here.

More on the Parowan “Powerhouse” here.

]]> By: Bill in Vigo http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2650 Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:16:33 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2650 Anthony I am very impressed with your site and read it advidly along with Steve M’s climateaudit. After seeing some of the conditions that the weather stations are in I begin to understand how the agw alarmists made so much head way early on in the debate. The only problem is that now there is such a large advantage with the liberal media that has to be overcome. Keep up the good work and I have also made my house more energy efficient.

Great job
Bill

]]> By: Evan Jones http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2643 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:59:09 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2643 Naturally. The basic shape of the graph is probably quite accurate.

Now, all ya gotta do is push it down by a couple-plus tenths of a degree on the left end and add a couple of tenths due to exurban creep microsite violation, and presto. There you have it. 0.6C warming.

]]> By: henry http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2640 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:08:48 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2640 I know, they’re BOTH listed.

I’m just going off the listings on the chart.

The site survey has it listed as the power plant, (City Public Works Yard).

Does this mean that this is where they park all their big trucks, snowplows, etc?

Still, for a couple of locations in the middle of Utah, with a 20 mi difference, there is a drastic temp difference. Can’t be alt difference.

There are some common points, though – they both had a big spike in ’34.

]]> By: wattsupwiththat http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2639 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:40:42 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2639 Henry, good point, Russ also has Parowan surveyed…but its not at a power plant…

http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php?g2_itemId=2680

]]> By: wattsupwiththat http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2637 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:39:21 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2637 Hi Jerry,

You can see what has yet to be covered in MD and VA here:

Maryland (quite a few left) http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php?g2_itemId=143

Virginia (also quite a few left) http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php?g2_itemId=255

Any help you can muster with these would be greatly appreciated. You can register as a surveyor at http://www.surfacestations.org and I’ll contact you with details.

Thanks for your consideration!

]]> By: henry http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2636 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:30:51 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2636 If you really want to see something different, compare the “annual mean of monthly temps” from Panguitch, UT to that of Parowan Power Plant, UT (according to google maps, about 20 mi to the west).

How would the AGW people explain THIS difference…

]]> By: henry http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2635 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:10:46 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2635 Where did they move it to, and what does the new record look like?

Would be interested to see if the new location’s starting temps are the same as the old location’s stopping temps…

]]> By: Jerry http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2634 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:45:20 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2634 Anthony,

Are there any sites in Virginia/Maryland that you are still trying to category?

]]> By: Evan Jones http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2632 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:22:04 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-36/#comment-2632 More exhaustive concrete evidence of global warming.

About these-here CRN ratings, Rev.

Assuming no car exhaust (but why?), we’d have to rate this one a three. But it looks more like a THREE to me!

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