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	<title>Comments on: A Cool and Wet October for California</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Sadlov</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/01/a-cool-and-wet-october-for-california/#comment-2511</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sadlov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are also some amazing botanical anomalies to report. Deciduous leaf turning began in early August in earnest, a full 45 days earlier than normal. While some of this can be ascribed to drought stress in the case of native flora such as Cottonwoods, Big Leaf Maples and naturally the ever early Buckeye, it has also been witnessed in hardy non natives such as Liquid Amber, Red Oak and Beech. I&#039;ve never seen these latter turn so early in nearly 40 years! That is not drought stress, it is purely a response to the early cold intrusions which began July 19. Therefore, I label July 19 as this years begining of climatic fall in this bioregion. (Some interesting additional botanical notes - pollen levels (rain triggered) started to climb immensely in August (rightfully almost 90 days early!), Flowering Pears are now in full bloom (again, rain triggered, normally these do not start until late December at the earliest), and non native Spanish tall oat grasses sprouted well prior Halloween (normally, the earliest we&#039;d see this is mid November). What lies in store during the last month of Fall and during Winter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are also some amazing botanical anomalies to report. Deciduous leaf turning began in early August in earnest, a full 45 days earlier than normal. While some of this can be ascribed to drought stress in the case of native flora such as Cottonwoods, Big Leaf Maples and naturally the ever early Buckeye, it has also been witnessed in hardy non natives such as Liquid Amber, Red Oak and Beech. I&#8217;ve never seen these latter turn so early in nearly 40 years! That is not drought stress, it is purely a response to the early cold intrusions which began July 19. Therefore, I label July 19 as this years begining of climatic fall in this bioregion. (Some interesting additional botanical notes &#8211; pollen levels (rain triggered) started to climb immensely in August (rightfully almost 90 days early!), Flowering Pears are now in full bloom (again, rain triggered, normally these do not start until late December at the earliest), and non native Spanish tall oat grasses sprouted well prior Halloween (normally, the earliest we&#8217;d see this is mid November). What lies in store during the last month of Fall and during Winter?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sadlov</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/01/a-cool-and-wet-october-for-california/#comment-2508</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sadlov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concur w/ lousy NorCal summer. In spite of technical drought conditions for the 2006 - 2007 rainfall year, it never really got very warm versus climatology. A few ironies. Dec and Jan it was often too cold to snow in the Sierra. Winds blew it away. Finally got good dumps up there late Feb into March, then again mid April into May. Was driving from Truckee to Sacto in early May, snow on the road past Nyack. Patches way down low for mid Spring. Then as you note, coolish summer in the Bay with troughy conditions. Got the fall chill July 19. Got cut off lows starting right after that. Then the real fronts started Labor Day. Everything about 60 days early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concur w/ lousy NorCal summer. In spite of technical drought conditions for the 2006 &#8211; 2007 rainfall year, it never really got very warm versus climatology. A few ironies. Dec and Jan it was often too cold to snow in the Sierra. Winds blew it away. Finally got good dumps up there late Feb into March, then again mid April into May. Was driving from Truckee to Sacto in early May, snow on the road past Nyack. Patches way down low for mid Spring. Then as you note, coolish summer in the Bay with troughy conditions. Got the fall chill July 19. Got cut off lows starting right after that. Then the real fronts started Labor Day. Everything about 60 days early.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/01/a-cool-and-wet-october-for-california/#comment-2341</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We really didn&#039;t have much of a summer at all here in San Jose.  At least not so much in the way of really hot temperatures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We really didn&#8217;t have much of a summer at all here in San Jose.  At least not so much in the way of really hot temperatures.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/11/01/a-cool-and-wet-october-for-california/#comment-2333</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony,

I took a look at Grass Valley&#039;s October. About 3 degrees F below the mean. Details at NC Media Watch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony,</p>
<p>I took a look at Grass Valley&#8217;s October. About 3 degrees F below the mean. Details at NC Media Watch</p>
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		<title>By: 13times</title>
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		<dc:creator>13times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Too much rain and/or higher than normal snow pack in the Sierra Nevada Mtns:&lt;/i&gt;

The:USFS declares an increased threat of forest fires due to the increase in underbrush growth.

&lt;i&gt;Lower than normal rain fall and/or snow pack in the Sierra Nevada Mtns:&lt;/i&gt;

The:USFS declares an increased threat of forest fires due to the decrease in underbrush growth.

Hot or cold, wet or dry, California can&#039;t win ;P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Too much rain and/or higher than normal snow pack in the Sierra Nevada Mtns:</i></p>
<p>The:USFS declares an increased threat of forest fires due to the increase in underbrush growth.</p>
<p><i>Lower than normal rain fall and/or snow pack in the Sierra Nevada Mtns:</i></p>
<p>The:USFS declares an increased threat of forest fires due to the decrease in underbrush growth.</p>
<p>Hot or cold, wet or dry, California can&#8217;t win ;P</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of off topic...How about sending some love for Climate Audit over to the Best Science Blog 2007 voting?  Steve is in second place and could use everyone&#039;s help.  You can vote once every 24 hours so no slacking!  He deserves it!
http://2007.weblogawards.org/polls/best-science-blog-1.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of off topic&#8230;How about sending some love for Climate Audit over to the Best Science Blog 2007 voting?  Steve is in second place and could use everyone&#8217;s help.  You can vote once every 24 hours so no slacking!  He deserves it!<br />
<a href="http://2007.weblogawards.org/polls/best-science-blog-1.php" rel="nofollow">http://2007.weblogawards.org/polls/best-science-blog-1.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOOD Lord. I just realized. After all these months. I am a Historian! We got Rules! We got Method! Just like you-all science boyz. I have neat little lists of formal and informal academic fallacies just waiting, begging, pleading to be applied!

Fallacies of Circular Proof, Prevalent Proof, Appositive Proof, Accent, Multiple Analogy, Mechanistic Cause, Argumenti ad misericordium, ad modum, ad metum, ad superbiam . . . and that&#039;s just a-scritch-scratching the surface. My babies! My Deadly Tools of Trade! I have left you abandoned. Can you ever forgive me? Your Ex wants you back!

Maybe I do not come to this debate completely unarmed, at that! Maybe I can be of some small use around here after all! 

I feel a White Paper coming on . . . (more on this later, as this is obviously off topic).  Word Up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOOD Lord. I just realized. After all these months. I am a Historian! We got Rules! We got Method! Just like you-all science boyz. I have neat little lists of formal and informal academic fallacies just waiting, begging, pleading to be applied!</p>
<p>Fallacies of Circular Proof, Prevalent Proof, Appositive Proof, Accent, Multiple Analogy, Mechanistic Cause, Argumenti ad misericordium, ad modum, ad metum, ad superbiam . . . and that&#8217;s just a-scritch-scratching the surface. My babies! My Deadly Tools of Trade! I have left you abandoned. Can you ever forgive me? Your Ex wants you back!</p>
<p>Maybe I do not come to this debate completely unarmed, at that! Maybe I can be of some small use around here after all! </p>
<p>I feel a White Paper coming on . . . (more on this later, as this is obviously off topic).  Word Up!</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t say, Rev. 

I seem to recall hearing that abnormally high temperatures led to drought, which led to [seriousness of] the fire. The prevailing wisdom being, &quot;I&#039;m not  saying it&#039;s global warming. I&#039;m just SAYING . . .&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t say, Rev. </p>
<p>I seem to recall hearing that abnormally high temperatures led to drought, which led to [seriousness of] the fire. The prevailing wisdom being, &#8220;I&#8217;m not  saying it&#8217;s global warming. I&#8217;m just SAYING . . .&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Grimm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Grimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently left Santa Clarita, where some of the fires broke out, but my family is still there.  
Ho-hum.  Same-o-same-o.  Every year at this time there are wild fires.  You just hope the fire doesn&#039;t get too near to your particular neck of the woods.   However, the state/local reaction to the fires was pretty darn good this time.  A small fire broke out about a mile from our place, but it was put out very quickly.    
I noticed the large number of reporters who implicated global warming(they never actually said it was causal).   Being SoCal reporters, I found it truly disingenuous of them to implicate global warming.  They know better than that.   Cripes, the woods around Santa Clarita are the thickest I&#039;ve seen since moving there - serious fuel for a fire.     
So October was cold for California?  Hah!  I&#039;m no forecaster, but I am betting the decreased sun activity is going to cool things.   If it happens, no doubt that alarmists will find a way to spin it and continue the &quot;sky is falling&quot; routine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently left Santa Clarita, where some of the fires broke out, but my family is still there.<br />
Ho-hum.  Same-o-same-o.  Every year at this time there are wild fires.  You just hope the fire doesn&#8217;t get too near to your particular neck of the woods.   However, the state/local reaction to the fires was pretty darn good this time.  A small fire broke out about a mile from our place, but it was put out very quickly.<br />
I noticed the large number of reporters who implicated global warming(they never actually said it was causal).   Being SoCal reporters, I found it truly disingenuous of them to implicate global warming.  They know better than that.   Cripes, the woods around Santa Clarita are the thickest I&#8217;ve seen since moving there &#8211; serious fuel for a fire.<br />
So October was cold for California?  Hah!  I&#8217;m no forecaster, but I am betting the decreased sun activity is going to cool things.   If it happens, no doubt that alarmists will find a way to spin it and continue the &#8220;sky is falling&#8221; routine.</p>
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		<title>By: MattN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Oh, they know the weather patterns.  They just don&#039;t give a damn.  Truly horrible self-serving journalism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<p>Oh, they know the weather patterns.  They just don&#8217;t give a damn.  Truly horrible self-serving journalism.</p></blockquote>
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