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	<title>Comments on: Lights Out &#8211; Guest post by Steve McIntyre</title>
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		<title>By: Anthony Watts</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/08/11/lights-out-guest-post-by-steve-mcintyre/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Watts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Karen,

See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.surfacestations.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.surfacestations.org&lt;/a&gt; which is my nationwide project to locate and document such stations.

There is a master list link on the front page that has info on station locations. There is also a browsable online database of photos acquired already.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen,</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.surfacestations.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.surfacestations.org</a> which is my nationwide project to locate and document such stations.</p>
<p>There is a master list link on the front page that has info on station locations. There is also a browsable online database of photos acquired already.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Miller</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/08/11/lights-out-guest-post-by-steve-mcintyre/#comment-1046</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can I find out where NOAA or other &quot;official weather stations&quot; are located in Central Florida?  Anyone know?

Thanks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I find out where NOAA or other &#8220;official weather stations&#8221; are located in Central Florida?  Anyone know?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinan Unur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sinan Unur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Molon Labe: Thank you for the correction. I will fix the template and regenerate the HTML pages.

There are a couple of other changes I want to make to the presentation and I will post a note here when the new version is up.

The whole shebang consists of 13,000 files and just generating and uploading them takes some time. I prefer generating the information offline and serving static content.

I have to admit. I still don&#039;t fully understand these databases.

Why does the series for Copenhagen, DK end in 1991?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unur.com/climate/ghcn-v2/612/06186.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.unur.com/climate/ghcn-v2/612/06186.html&lt;/a&gt;

Sinan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Molon Labe: Thank you for the correction. I will fix the template and regenerate the HTML pages.</p>
<p>There are a couple of other changes I want to make to the presentation and I will post a note here when the new version is up.</p>
<p>The whole shebang consists of 13,000 files and just generating and uploading them takes some time. I prefer generating the information offline and serving static content.</p>
<p>I have to admit. I still don&#8217;t fully understand these databases.</p>
<p>Why does the series for Copenhagen, DK end in 1991?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.unur.com/climate/ghcn-v2/612/06186.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.unur.com/climate/ghcn-v2/612/06186.html</a></p>
<p>Sinan</p>
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		<title>By: Molon Labe</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/08/11/lights-out-guest-post-by-steve-mcintyre/#comment-1044</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molon Labe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sinan: The text on each station page for USA data says temp is measured in hundreths of a degree C. I think you must mean tenths of a degree in order for the scale to correspond to -40C to 40C
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinan: The text on each station page for USA data says temp is measured in hundreths of a degree C. I think you must mean tenths of a degree in order for the scale to correspond to -40C to 40C</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis, P.E.</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/08/11/lights-out-guest-post-by-steve-mcintyre/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter E. Wallis, P.E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The raw data must always be available. Correction factors are just guesses.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The raw data must always be available. Correction factors are just guesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Smith</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/08/11/lights-out-guest-post-by-steve-mcintyre/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps surfacestations.org should have a link to the graph on Sinan&#039;s site for each station?

I know it would be some extra work, especially retro-adding it to the site pages already online, but if it was included as each site was uploaded it would make things much easier.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps surfacestations.org should have a link to the graph on Sinan&#8217;s site for each station?</p>
<p>I know it would be some extra work, especially retro-adding it to the site pages already online, but if it was included as each site was uploaded it would make things much easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Papertiger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Papertiger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sinan that is awesome. I would have had no idea how spotty the world record is without looking at your graphs.
Another thing your presentation pointed out to me is the contrived nature of using temperature extremes to plot changes in the global temperature.
That was below my radar, and I thank you for pointing it out to me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinan that is awesome. I would have had no idea how spotty the world record is without looking at your graphs.<br />
Another thing your presentation pointed out to me is the contrived nature of using temperature extremes to plot changes in the global temperature.<br />
That was below my radar, and I thank you for pointing it out to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinan Unur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sinan Unur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello:

Thanks for the comments. My web site is basically read-only at this point.

If you would like to contact me, you can do it using the form at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unur.com/sinan/contact.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.unur.com/sinan/contact.html&lt;/a&gt;

In any case, I am hoping that what I am doing can complement Steve and Anthony&#039;s work in some way.

The graphs that are currently on my site are useful because they show, for each location, the maximal amount of data available. It is interesting to note that, while the U.S. is a small part of the global surface area, many of the longer, continuously updated temperature series come from the U.S.

I plan to go over my scripts and release them this week.

Sinan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments. My web site is basically read-only at this point.</p>
<p>If you would like to contact me, you can do it using the form at <a href="http://www.unur.com/sinan/contact.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.unur.com/sinan/contact.html</a></p>
<p>In any case, I am hoping that what I am doing can complement Steve and Anthony&#8217;s work in some way.</p>
<p>The graphs that are currently on my site are useful because they show, for each location, the maximal amount of data available. It is interesting to note that, while the U.S. is a small part of the global surface area, many of the longer, continuously updated temperature series come from the U.S.</p>
<p>I plan to go over my scripts and release them this week.</p>
<p>Sinan</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Mosher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Sinan.

Do you have a comments section? I have some notions for other kinds of checks that SteveMc prolly does not have time for, but which could yeild a nugget or two
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sinan.</p>
<p>Do you have a comments section? I have some notions for other kinds of checks that SteveMc prolly does not have time for, but which could yeild a nugget or two</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Ch. Eigler</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/08/11/lights-out-guest-post-by-steve-mcintyre/#comment-1038</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Ch. Eigler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sinan, be sure to archive old versions of the data, in case of future retroactive adjustments.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinan, be sure to archive old versions of the data, in case of future retroactive adjustments.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Watts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Watts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sinan,

That is truly an impressive compilation of GHCN data on a station by station basis. I know it will be usefull in the work being done. Thank you for the hard work to make it available.

Anthony
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinan,</p>
<p>That is truly an impressive compilation of GHCN data on a station by station basis. I know it will be usefull in the work being done. Thank you for the hard work to make it available.</p>
<p>Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: Sinan Unur</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/08/11/lights-out-guest-post-by-steve-mcintyre/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sinan Unur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a quick FYI: I recently posted graphs of temperature level data for all stations in GHCNv2 on my site:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unur.com/climate/ghcn-v2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.unur.com/climate/ghcn-v2/&lt;/a&gt;

Sinan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick FYI: I recently posted graphs of temperature level data for all stations in GHCNv2 on my site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.unur.com/climate/ghcn-v2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.unur.com/climate/ghcn-v2/</a></p>
<p>Sinan</p>
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		<title>By: Papertiger</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/08/11/lights-out-guest-post-by-steve-mcintyre/#comment-1035</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Papertiger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 05:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9812/29/y2k.lookahead/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fed agencies among serious stragglers in Y2K preparations
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;Some await the apocalypse; others think the problem will be merely annoying. In any case, the federal government&#039;s own outlook inspires little confidence. &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Joel Willemssen of the U.S. General Accounting Office doesn&#039;t sugarcoat his answer. &quot;All the government agencies will not be done on time. There will be some failures,&quot; he says.&lt;/i&gt;
Jim Hansen has made Joel Willemsson into a modern day Nostradamus.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9812/29/y2k.lookahead/index.html" rel="nofollow">Fed agencies among serious stragglers in Y2K preparations<br />
</a><i>Some await the apocalypse; others think the problem will be merely annoying. In any case, the federal government&#8217;s own outlook inspires little confidence. </i></p>
<p><i>Joel Willemssen of the U.S. General Accounting Office doesn&#8217;t sugarcoat his answer. &#8220;All the government agencies will not be done on time. There will be some failures,&#8221; he says.</i><br />
Jim Hansen has made Joel Willemsson into a modern day Nostradamus.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff C.</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/08/11/lights-out-guest-post-by-steve-mcintyre/#comment-1034</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 05:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post and thanks for cross-posting it here.

Steve does a good job disecting Hansens&#039;s letter, but you really have to read it to believe it.

Regarding Hansen&#039;s statement, &quot;My apologies if the quick response that I sent to Andy Revkin and several other journalists, including the suggestion that it was a tempest inside somebody’s teapot dome...&quot; seems to be a pretty clear shot at President Bush as the &quot;Teapot Dome&quot; scandal was on the verge of bringing down President Harding who ultimately died in office in the 1920s.  Hansen has publicly ripped the head of NASA and Bush in the past.  Doesn&#039;t seem like a guy with any concerns about job security.

If nothing else, this entire episode should make it more difficult for GISS, NCDC, IPCC and the rest to continue with the &quot;trust us&quot; routine.  Regardless of which side of the issue you are on, that is good for science.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post and thanks for cross-posting it here.</p>
<p>Steve does a good job disecting Hansens&#8217;s letter, but you really have to read it to believe it.</p>
<p>Regarding Hansen&#8217;s statement, &#8220;My apologies if the quick response that I sent to Andy Revkin and several other journalists, including the suggestion that it was a tempest inside somebody’s teapot dome&#8230;&#8221; seems to be a pretty clear shot at President Bush as the &#8220;Teapot Dome&#8221; scandal was on the verge of bringing down President Harding who ultimately died in office in the 1920s.  Hansen has publicly ripped the head of NASA and Bush in the past.  Doesn&#8217;t seem like a guy with any concerns about job security.</p>
<p>If nothing else, this entire episode should make it more difficult for GISS, NCDC, IPCC and the rest to continue with the &#8220;trust us&#8221; routine.  Regardless of which side of the issue you are on, that is good for science.</p>
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		<title>By: hoosiernorm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hoosiernorm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 04:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a question about the NASA site. On the &lt;a href=&quot;http://nasadaacs.eos.nasa.gov/articles/2006/2006_seaice.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nasadaacs.eos.nasa.gov/articles/2006/2006_seaice.html&lt;/a&gt; page it shows a graph for summer melting here &lt;a href=&quot;http://nasadaacs.eos.nasa.gov/articles/images/2006_seaice_graph.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nasadaacs.eos.nasa.gov/articles/images/2006_seaice_graph.gif&lt;/a&gt; But that graph only shows the bottom half of the data. It you go to another site here &lt;a href=&quot;http://nsidc.org/seaice/characteristics/difference.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nsidc.org/seaice/characteristics/difference.html&lt;/a&gt; the graph for Arctic Ice from the University of Colorado list data for both the melting and the maximum. They appear to show no significant change in their data. If you took the mean of that graph it would be close to zero. Can anyone explain this to me?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about the NASA site. On the <a href="http://nasadaacs.eos.nasa.gov/articles/2006/2006_seaice.html" rel="nofollow">http://nasadaacs.eos.nasa.gov/articles/2006/2006_seaice.html</a> page it shows a graph for summer melting here <a href="http://nasadaacs.eos.nasa.gov/articles/images/2006_seaice_graph.gif" rel="nofollow">http://nasadaacs.eos.nasa.gov/articles/images/2006_seaice_graph.gif</a> But that graph only shows the bottom half of the data. It you go to another site here <a href="http://nsidc.org/seaice/characteristics/difference.html" rel="nofollow">http://nsidc.org/seaice/characteristics/difference.html</a> the graph for Arctic Ice from the University of Colorado list data for both the melting and the maximum. They appear to show no significant change in their data. If you took the mean of that graph it would be close to zero. Can anyone explain this to me?</p>
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