Comments on: How not to measure temperature, part 20 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/ The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change Tue, 29 May 2012 09:07:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Sean Greer http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-682 Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:06:02 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-682 Tim:

What about the correlation of the NOAA data with the Australian data? They both show upward and to the right trends? Even Anthony had good things to say about the collection methodology of the Australian Bureau of Meteorology.

A couple of questions for Anthony:

Can you tell me which direction is east in the photos?

What is the impact of the building on the temperature profile collected by the sensor?

At what rate does the building absorb and emit thermal radiation?

Without more information it doesn’t seem possible to know the effect of the environment on the sensor.

]]> By: Tim http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-681 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:16:22 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-681 It’s simple, as long as the collected data supports the results they want, it doesn’t matter how questionable the data collection process is.

]]> By: Kip Hansen http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-680 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:26:31 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-680 I would be more concerned with the sheer mass of brick wall radiating heat back out at the air surrounding the senor.

]]> By: Jeff C. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-679 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:26:04 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-679 Good post, as usual, that leaves us shaking our heads in disbelief. One quick point, I believe this site is no longer the official NOAA station for Fort Morgan. It certainly was through 2001 after which NOAA records indicate the station went dormant and was later reactivated at a sight West of this location. One can only guess at the reason as it’s not part of the record available to the public. We can hope it was for quality control issues. Following the link to the photo source seems to show the photos are from a few years back.

However, that certainly doesn’t invalidate the central point of the post; this is a terrible site and its data is part of the historical record.

]]> By: David http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-678 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:32:18 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-678 If you think those are bad, just imagine if you could see some of the ways that temperature data is collected in developing countries or countries with unstable/corrupt governments. How reliable do you think that data is?

]]> By: BarryW http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-677 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:47:41 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-677 What the heck are they using for a cable, bailing wire? Even good old RS232 cable could do 50 ft!

]]> By: Jeff http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-676 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:14:16 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-20/#comment-676 Every time one of these is posted I’m just more amazed that the results from these stations can be classified as science.

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