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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/07/noaa-and-ncdc-restore-data-access/#comment-640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will the temperature history be provided with the NOAA data?

Also, on your Australian stations thread, a quick glance at a number of station photos seems to indicate that the folks Down Under have done a pretty good job of avoiding micro-site problems in positioning their thermometers.  Is there data available on the weather history for those sites long-term?  It would be interesting to see what the trend is, though IIRC, there is no long term warming trend in the southern hemisphere.  Could that be because Australia&#039;s stations are &quot;clean&quot; with no UHI issues?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the temperature history be provided with the NOAA data?</p>
<p>Also, on your Australian stations thread, a quick glance at a number of station photos seems to indicate that the folks Down Under have done a pretty good job of avoiding micro-site problems in positioning their thermometers.  Is there data available on the weather history for those sites long-term?  It would be interesting to see what the trend is, though IIRC, there is no long term warming trend in the southern hemisphere.  Could that be because Australia&#8217;s stations are &#8220;clean&#8221; with no UHI issues?</p>
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		<title>By: MikeW</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/07/noaa-and-ncdc-restore-data-access/#comment-639</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 05:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm. Didn&#039;t one of the volunteers recently say that a station observer was told to tell anyone arriving that pictures were not allowed?

I wonder if that has changed along with the name re-addition....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Didn&#8217;t one of the volunteers recently say that a station observer was told to tell anyone arriving that pictures were not allowed?</p>
<p>I wonder if that has changed along with the name re-addition&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom T</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bigcitylib: Although this may not be a conspiracy, why would you imagine that conspirators  would not change their ways once their conspiracy was found out. Just as a matter of logic, I don&#039;t understand your point. It does say anything one way or another about  NOAA and whether or not it is a conspiracy, and accept for the sake of argument that it isn&#039;t a conspircy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bigcitylib: Although this may not be a conspiracy, why would you imagine that conspirators  would not change their ways once their conspiracy was found out. Just as a matter of logic, I don&#8217;t understand your point. It does say anything one way or another about  NOAA and whether or not it is a conspiracy, and accept for the sake of argument that it isn&#8217;t a conspircy.</p>
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		<title>By: David Walton</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/07/noaa-and-ncdc-restore-data-access/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Walton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sure we are all relieved to hear that Joel McDade is not the bristling jack booted thug he appears to be.

;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure we are all relieved to hear that Joel McDade is not the bristling jack booted thug he appears to be.</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: Joel McDade</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/07/noaa-and-ncdc-restore-data-access/#comment-636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joel McDade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 18:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is great news!

With the name in hand I can usually find a phone number thru 411 or, upon arrival in these small towns, by hunting down a local phone book.

Personally I was not really prepared to go banging on doors unannounced!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great news!</p>
<p>With the name in hand I can usually find a phone number thru 411 or, upon arrival in these small towns, by hunting down a local phone book.</p>
<p>Personally I was not really prepared to go banging on doors unannounced!</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Watts</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/07/noaa-and-ncdc-restore-data-access/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Watts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 18:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bigcitylib

&quot;conspiracy&quot; is not a word I ever used. It is your word.

Please see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/06/noaa_throws_a_roadblock_my_way.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/06/noaa_throws_a_roadblock_my_way.html&lt;/a&gt;

Then from that page show me exactly where you claim I&#039;ve used that word. Note that a third party commenter&#039;s use of the word on my blog doesn&#039;t count as me having used the word. That commenter Jeff Wood, said &quot;It&#039;s more a case of organisational embarrassment, than a conspiracy against the record. &quot; I agree with that.

What is clear is that NOAA reacted to complaints from some people over &quot;possible&quot; problems and pulled the data.

When they realized there weren&#039;t any such problems, and that their position was unsupportable, they did the correct thing and put the data back.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bigcitylib</p>
<p>&#8220;conspiracy&#8221; is not a word I ever used. It is your word.</p>
<p>Please see <a href="http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/06/noaa_throws_a_roadblock_my_way.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/06/noaa_throws_a_roadblock_my_way.html</a></p>
<p>Then from that page show me exactly where you claim I&#8217;ve used that word. Note that a third party commenter&#8217;s use of the word on my blog doesn&#8217;t count as me having used the word. That commenter Jeff Wood, said &#8220;It&#8217;s more a case of organisational embarrassment, than a conspiracy against the record. &#8221; I agree with that.</p>
<p>What is clear is that NOAA reacted to complaints from some people over &#8220;possible&#8221; problems and pulled the data.</p>
<p>When they realized there weren&#8217;t any such problems, and that their position was unsupportable, they did the correct thing and put the data back.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Watts</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/07/noaa-and-ncdc-restore-data-access/#comment-634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Watts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 18:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bishop,

The &quot;Managing Parties&quot; field that had been removed from NCDC&#039;s MMS system contained two types of names:

- Private Observer Names
- Entity Names

The entity names were often things like Fire Stations, Park Service Headquarters, Waste Water Treatment Plants, etc., which have no expectation of privacy.

We can easily look up the addresses of those government entities. If the facility is open to the public, then a site survey is fair game at any time. If it is restricted in some way, then permission must be asked for and granted, unless the station is visible from a public street.

In the case of private observers at residences, they can also be looked up via various methods, then contacted by telephone to see if they would allow a site survey. If they do not, volunteers are bound by our privacy policy not to press further.

So far, no private observer has turned down such a request that I know of.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bishop,</p>
<p>The &#8220;Managing Parties&#8221; field that had been removed from NCDC&#8217;s MMS system contained two types of names:</p>
<p>- Private Observer Names<br />
- Entity Names</p>
<p>The entity names were often things like Fire Stations, Park Service Headquarters, Waste Water Treatment Plants, etc., which have no expectation of privacy.</p>
<p>We can easily look up the addresses of those government entities. If the facility is open to the public, then a site survey is fair game at any time. If it is restricted in some way, then permission must be asked for and granted, unless the station is visible from a public street.</p>
<p>In the case of private observers at residences, they can also be looked up via various methods, then contacted by telephone to see if they would allow a site survey. If they do not, volunteers are bound by our privacy policy not to press further.</p>
<p>So far, no private observer has turned down such a request that I know of.</p>
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		<title>By: bigcitylib</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/07/noaa-and-ncdc-restore-data-access/#comment-633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigcitylib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 18:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you&#039;re no longer convinced its all part of the big conspiracy?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re no longer convinced its all part of the big conspiracy?</p>
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		<title>By: Bishop Hill</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/07/noaa-and-ncdc-restore-data-access/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bishop Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But I thought you needed the contact details in order to ask for directions to the station. How are you going to find them from now on?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I thought you needed the contact details in order to ask for directions to the station. How are you going to find them from now on?</p>
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		<title>By: David Walton</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/07/noaa-and-ncdc-restore-data-access/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Walton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read both your comments and those from Jeff Arnfield and have a better understanding of the privacy and legal issues that NOAA has been wrestling with.

Thanks to NOAA and to you, Anthony, for doing the right thing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read both your comments and those from Jeff Arnfield and have a better understanding of the privacy and legal issues that NOAA has been wrestling with.</p>
<p>Thanks to NOAA and to you, Anthony, for doing the right thing.</p>
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